It's Official: I come from a country full of peaceniks

[Dr Grump]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10576106

Who'da thought??

I especially like this quote ""If you look at the top 20, they are all small nations based on strong welfare principles, all with good and relatively uncorrupt governance.""

Damn socialists...LOL

 

[jillian]

I knew you guys were up to no good down there.

 

[Dr Grump]

The link at the bottom gives you the full list. US is 83...but more interesting is if you click on the country and it gives you a break down of where the score comes through..

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Congratulations. You have nothing anybody is willing to fight for to get, and there is nothing you want badly enough to fight for.

 

[Dr Grump]

Congratulations. You have nothing anybody is willing to fight for to get, and there is nothing you want badly enough to fight for.

So in order to want something, or not want something, you have to fight for it? Only a right-wing Yank loon would think like that...I can't think for the life of me why the rest of the world and a vast majority of US citizens thought the same about Dumber when his term was up...

 

[Oddball]

Top 10 most peaceful nations

1. New Zealand
2. Denmark
2. Norway
4. Iceland
5. Austria
6. Sweden
7. Japan
8. Canada
9. Finland
9. Slovenia

First of all, Japan is still an occupied nation, with no viable military as dictated by the terms of its surrender more than 60 years ago. Using that criteria, I could say that the CSA is also one of the great peaceful nations of the world.

Secondly, the levels of socialism in those nations is non sequitur viz. their proclaimed levels of peacefulness.....The Russians and Chinese are both highly socialistic AND highly militarily belligerent.

But feel free to keep living your lie...If it helps you sleep at night.

 

[Dr Grump]

First of all, Japan is still an occupied nation, with no viable military as dictated by the terms of its surrender more than 60 years ago. Using that criteria, I could say that the CSA is also one of the great peaceful nations of the world.

Secondly, the levels of socialism in those nations is non sequitur viz. their proclaimed levels of peacefulness.....The Russians and Chinese are both highly socialistic AND highly militarily belligerent.

But feel free to keep living your lie...If it helps you sleep at night.

Japan absolutely has a military. That aside, if you click on the link at the bottom of the page it lists the nations and if you click on the nation it gives the "accounting" system of how it was measured.
I would call China Totalitarian, and Russia almost Anarchaic...hardly socialist in the true meaning of the word (not the bastardised version that right-wing Yanks seem to have deemed the 'true' meaning of the word). You guys wouldn't know true socialism if it bit you on the butt...

 

[jillian]

The link at the bottom gives you the full list. US is 83...but more interesting is if you click on the country and it gives you a break down of where the score comes through..

I looked at a couple of the breakdowns... will look more closely when i have a chance. i'm wondering if there's a correlation between peacefulness and reported levels of happines.. and the country's wealth. I'll also look at the criteria used. But definitely ineresting...

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

Congratulations. You have nothing anybody is willing to fight for to get, and there is nothing you want badly enough to fight for.

So in order to want something, or not want something, you have to fight for it? Only a right-wing Yank loon would think like that...I can't think for the life of me why the rest of the world and a vast majority of US citizens thought the same about Dumber when his term was up...

The vast majority of the world thought like that when the Japanese started sailing for your miserable little island.

Lucky you they never got there.

 

[Oddball]

Japan absolutely has a military. That aside, if you click on the link at the bottom of the page it lists the nations and if you click on the nation it gives the "accounting" system of how it was measured.
I would call China Totalitarian, and Russia almost Anarchaic...hardly socialist in the true meaning of the word (not the bastardised version that right-wing Yanks seem to have deemed the 'true' meaning of the word). You guys wouldn't know true socialism if it bit you on the butt...

Japan has but a token military, as dictated and regulated by their occupiers.

The argument that nobody knows what the true definition of "socialism" is, as defined by its pimps, and subsequent navel-contemplating parsings, was all too predictable.

Like I said...Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.

 

[Dr Grump]

The vast majority of the world thought like that when the Japanese started sailing for your miserable little island.

Lucky you they never got there.

Had this argument many times before with right wing "you owe us" Yanks. Not biting today. Suffice to say, we were never a problem to Japan and they never could have sustained any sort of base here anyway. Too far away...

 

[Nik]

Japan absolutely has a military. That aside, if you click on the link at the bottom of the page it lists the nations and if you click on the nation it gives the "accounting" system of how it was measured.
I would call China Totalitarian, and Russia almost Anarchaic...hardly socialist in the true meaning of the word (not the bastardised version that right-wing Yanks seem to have deemed the 'true' meaning of the word). You guys wouldn't know true socialism if it bit you on the butt...

Japan has but a token military, as dictated and regulated by their occupiers.

The argument that nobody knows what the true definition of "socialism" is, as defined by its pimps, and subsequent navel-contemplating parsings, was all too predictable.

Like I said...Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.

Japan spends the 6th largest amount worldwide on their military...almost $50 billion a year. And they have over 230,000 personnel. Hardly a "token" force. You aren't nearly as good at knowing actual facts as you are at cute little catch phrases, and you aren't even very good at those.

 

[Dr Grump]

The argument that nobody knows what the true definition of "socialism" is, as defined by its pimps, and subsequent navel-contemplating parsings, was all too predictable.

Like I said...Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.

Well, Socialism does HAVE a meaning you know. Most words do. And if you want to call China and Russia socialist, I'll call you on it. Both stated they were Communist countries (which is different from Socialism), but if you have read anything about Communism you will know they did not adhere to that particular philosophy either. They were both totalitarian regimes run by dictators.

I sleep very well at night thanks! Hope you do to, although being a right-wing loon, conflict, aggression and generally interfering in other people's business seems to be a couple of your more annoying traits. I can see how the lack of melodrama in our little piece of paradise would irk you!

But carry on!

 

[Oddball]

Right, right, right, right....

You keep picking those flecks of pepper out of authoritarian piles of shit.

Carry on indeed.

 

[del]

Congratulations. You have nothing anybody is willing to fight for to get, and there is nothing you want badly enough to fight for.

So in order to want something, or not want something, you have to fight for it? Only a right-wing Yank loon would think like that...I can't think for the life of me why the rest of the world and a vast majority of US citizens thought the same about Dumber when his term was up...

The vast majority of the world thought like that when the Japanese started sailing for your miserable little island.

Lucky you they never got there.

new zealand fought honorably and well in ww2.
if you don't know what you're talking about, shut the fuck up.

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

So in order to want something, or not want something, you have to fight for it? Only a right-wing Yank loon would think like that...I can't think for the life of me why the rest of the world and a vast majority of US citizens thought the same about Dumber when his term was up...

The vast majority of the world thought like that when the Japanese started sailing for your miserable little island.

Lucky you they never got there.

new zealand fought honorably and well in ww2.
if you don't know what you're talking about, shut the fuck up.

They were never invaded. Thanks to the US. Shut the fuck up yourself.

 

[Dr Grump]

Right, right, right, right....

You keep picking those flecks of pepper out of authoritarian piles of shit.

Carry on indeed.

Hey, ignorance knows no bounds...carry on....

 

[Dr Grump]

They were never invaded. Thanks to the US. Shut the fuck up yourself.

Really? Care to back that up? Do you know where NZ was on the Japanese Military maps? Do you know if they were even interested in coming here? And why did we fight against the Japanese? Because they invaded NZ? Because we attacked them? No and no. There was this incident on Dec 7, 1941 that got our involvement. Nothing to do with us. Not even on our radar. Yet we declared war on the Nips. Ditto Sept 1939 on the Germans. Again, nothing to do with us. Glad to know who your friends are....

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

They were never invaded. Thanks to the US. Shut the fuck up yourself.

Really? Care to back that up? Do you know where NZ was on the Japanese Military maps? Do you know if they were even interested in coming here? And why did we fight against the Japanese? Because they invaded NZ? Because we attacked them? No and no. There was this incident on Dec 7, 1941 that got our involvement. Nothing to do with us. Not even on our radar. Yet we declared war on the Nips. Ditto Sept 1939 on the Germans. Again, nothing to do with us. Glad to know who your friends are....

They were steaming all the way across the Pacific, dumbass, until the yanks stuffed them back.

They occupied lots of countries who were not involved.

You were not high on their list.

 

[del]

The vast majority of the world thought like that when the Japanese started sailing for your miserable little island.

Lucky you they never got there.

new zealand fought honorably and well in ww2.
if you don't know what you're talking about, shut the fuck up.

They were never invaded. Thanks to the US. Shut the fuck up yourself.

they were never invaded thanks to the Allies of which they were one component.
they freely entered the war of their own volition without being attacked which is more than we can say. i'd post links but you're clearly too fucking stupid for it to matter.