It's obama's fault

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    Because it is the best for most people.

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    20 or 24 ga pump with 5 shot cap and #2 shot.
     
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    I prefer a shotgun myself, but the AR-15 has a lot less recoil.
     
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    Reliability, compactness and capacity, a combination that hard to beat. I carry a 40 cal. but at home I have a pump 12 ga. with a 357 mag. back up and the .40 to back up the back up.
     
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    Aw, a macho gun nut thread. Why anyone would want a .223 rifle instead of a good shotgun with 00 buckshot for home defense is beyond me.
     
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    It's not.
     
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    I have two questions for those who claim they own a gun to protect their homes:

    1. How long have you owned guns for the purpose of home protection?
    2. When was the last time you had to use your gun to defend your homes?

    I would bet my life that the vast majority of Americans who own guns to protect their homes have never had to use them, and never will.
     
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    Recoil? Holy shit, how many evildoers are you expecting to shoot at one time?
     
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    As many as it takes?

    What a weak attempt to justify banning guns.
     
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    Much better when using 00, or #4 Buck shot. But it makes a big mess.
     
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    That wasn't my argument.
     
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    Because it won't make as much of a mess.
     
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    Mess? Damn, do you do this often...?
     
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    Then we're agreed it doesn't matter if they ever used them.
     
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    A good 10 or 12 gauge magnum loaded with rock salt will take care of business - unless you really want to turn the evildoers into hamburger with 00 buckshot.
     
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    So you would want them simply because you can - not for the 0.005% chance someone might break into your home?
     
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    Hmm..., I've owned guns most of my adult life, both rifles, pistols and shotguns. I used an M-14, M-16 and 12 gauge at the behest of my Uncle Sam in a place called Vietnam. I hope I never ahve to use one again to protect my family and myself. But I do live in what is considered the boonies. There's no police dept. and State troopers are our response team. Like Sandy Hook School response would be 20 to 45 minutes depending on how far they are from me. In the last year neighbors on either side of me. One about 3/4 of a mile and the other about 1/2 mile were broken into. In one case the woman was home and she was assaulted pretty badly and raped. They took whatever they could stuff in their truck and left. At the present time even as I type my .357 is strapped to my waist.
     
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    That's probably true, but if on 10% of them ever use their guns to defend their homes, that's 20 million people.
     
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    You're right. And while we're at it. Did you know very few policemen ever have to shoot someone throughout their entire career? I mean seriously carrying something just for the off chance you might need it, No reason for them to have guns either.
     
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    Can you show us any statistics on home owners having to use AK47's or rather AR15's to protect themselves from robbers or invaders...and if they did not have an AR 15, but another type gun, that they could not have protected themselves against an intruder? Any news articles or police facts? Just curious.....???
     

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