It’s not hard to make the case that Obama’s $840 billion stimulus was a failure

[CrusaderFrank]

Historical evidence suggests that no-stimulus would have been far worse.

Just look at the Great Depression.

When it started the government did very little. It got worse

Then government started to spend a bit. It got worse then started to get slowly better

Then government spent a gargantuan amount of money, practically giving jobs to all that needed them, and the economy recovered in a few years.

Unemployment average 19% and never dipped below 14% from FDR's inauguration until Hitler conquered France 7 years later, when exactly did this government stimulus work?

It didn't work that well. The government stimulus before Hitler conquered France wasn't big enough. It was the one that happened after Pearl Harbor that was big enough to give everyone jobs and result in lasting growth within a few years.

War and mass murder are always the Progressives most dependable stimulus/population reduction programs

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Seriously the New Deal sucked

It's the FDR Depression

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Unemployment average 19% and never dipped below 14% from FDR's inauguration until Hitler conquered France 7 years later, when exactly did this government stimulus work?

It didn't work that well. The government stimulus before Hitler conquered France wasn't big enough. It was the one that happened after Pearl Harbor that was big enough to give everyone jobs and result in lasting growth within a few years.

War and mass murder are always the Progressives most dependable stimulus/population reduction programs

It was the spending that caused the economy to recover, not the mass murder and war.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Seriously the New Deal sucked

It's the FDR Depression

The New Deal put food in peoples mouths and still does to this day.

 

[The Infidel]

It didn't work that well. The government stimulus before Hitler conquered France wasn't big enough. It was the one that happened after Pearl Harbor that was big enough to give everyone jobs and result in lasting growth within a few years.

War and mass murder are always the Progressives most dependable stimulus/population reduction programs

It was the spending that caused the economy to recover, not the mass murder and war.

Spending on what?

Oh yeah.... Stopping mass murder and genocide.

Thats a bit more noble than greasing the palms of your union friends.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It didn't work that well. The government stimulus before Hitler conquered France wasn't big enough. It was the one that happened after Pearl Harbor that was big enough to give everyone jobs and result in lasting growth within a few years.

War and mass murder are always the Progressives most dependable stimulus/population reduction programs

It was the spending that caused the economy to recover, not the mass murder and war.

I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood, I thought the "New Deal" was some kind of massive country transforming spending program.

 

[The Infidel]

Seriously the New Deal sucked

It's the FDR Depression

The New Deal put food in peoples mouths and still does to this day.

Gov't getting out of the way of progress also puts food in peoples mouths.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

War and mass murder are always the Progressives most dependable stimulus/population reduction programs

It was the spending that caused the economy to recover, not the mass murder and war.

Spending on what?

Oh yeah.... Stopping mass murder and genocide.

Thats a bit more noble than greasing the palms of your union friends.

LOL! As if the recovery of the economy itself isn't a noble enough purpose! Not sure whose union hands got greased with the stimulus money that partially funds my job, I'm a salaried employee who has never been a member of a union.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Seriously the New Deal sucked

It's the FDR Depression

The New Deal put food in peoples mouths and still does to this day.

Gov't getting out of the way of progress also puts food in peoples mouths.

That worked really well for Hoover.

 

[Avorysuds]

The stimulus never met a single benchmark it set, not 1... Yet we still have to debate if it worked or not, fucking amazing. What did you people call Bush's stimulus? The X-box check... When Obama does a stimulus on a larger scale than Bush and fails to a degree that has never been seen before in the history of the world some people want to "debate" if the stimulus worked or not...

It didn't, it was never meant to.. It was there to make the rich richer and buy votes, the 2 "hidden" benchmarks that it actually did manage to meet in excess.

How come liberals can bash “trickle down economics” and call it a failure but Government printing money, borrowing it or stealing it from people who actually work to pay people that don’t work or make incredibly bad investments for near the WHOLE amount that the stimulus was is somehow up for debate? All it did was everything you claim the evil Reagan and Bush did with trickle down economics only in fast fucking forward because they literally just handed the money to who they wanted to have it rather than let it “trickle” there over years.

But this is the internet, everything I said is fact and never has to be accounted for in conversation, you get to jump to your next thought with zero accountabiluty for the stupid crap you said abd I and many others answered.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

The stimulus never met a single benchmark it set, not 1... Yet we still have to debate if it worked or not, fucking amazing. What did you people call Bush's stimulus? The X-box check... When Obama does a stimulus on a larger scale than Bush and fails to a degree that has never been seen before in the history of the world some people want to "debate" if the stimulus worked or not...

It didn't, it was never meant to.. It was there to make the rich richer and buy votes, the 2 "hidden" benchmarks that it actually did manage to meet in excess.

How come liberals can bash “trickle down economics” and call it a failure but Government printing money, borrowing it or stealing it from people who actually work to pay people that don’t work or make incredibly bad investments for near the WHOLE amount that the stimulus was is somehow up for debate? All it did was everything you claim the evil Reagan and Bush did with trickle down economics only in fast fucking forward because they literally just handed the money to who they wanted to have it rather than let it “trickle” there over years.

But this is the internet, everything I said is fact and never has to be accounted for in conversation, you get to jump to your next thought with zero accountabiluty for the stupid crap you said abd I and many others answered.

What were the benchmarks?

 

[Claudette]

Perhaps Oppydoopey should read about the GD.

The Great Depression - End of the Depression

 

[Avorysuds]

Historical evidence suggests that no-stimulus would have been far worse.

Just look at the Great Depression.

When it started the government did very little. It got worse

Then government started to spend a bit. It got worse then started to get slowly better

Then government spent a gargantuan amount of money, practically giving jobs to all that needed them, and the economy recovered in a few years.

Unemployment average 19% and never dipped below 14% from FDR's inauguration until Hitler conquered France 7 years later, when exactly did this government stimulus work?

It didn't work that well. The government stimulus before Hitler conquered France wasn't big enough. It was the one that happened after Pearl Harbor that was big enough to give everyone jobs and result in lasting growth within a few years.

They waited SIX FUCKING MONTHS BEFORE THEY STARTED SPENDING.

They then spent for TWELEVE FUCKING YEARS and things never got better.

Holy fucking shit... Like I said, ZERO accountability. Makes you wonder how Coolidge and Harding had a booming economy for 10 years that they had to pull out of a depression when they came into office... By NOT SPENDING. Ohhh, there are reasons, so many reasons.... But a 12 year depression under a Democrat and it's alllllll Small Government/low taxes fault. LOL, you can't make this shit up.


BTW, they cut taxes and spending after the king FDR's 3 terms were over and we recovered... Something most forget, because that would destroy the entire theroy that spending and FDR saved America from the Depression that only last all 3 of his terms as President.

 

[Avorysuds]

The stimulus never met a single benchmark it set, not 1... Yet we still have to debate if it worked or not, fucking amazing. What did you people call Bush's stimulus? The X-box check... When Obama does a stimulus on a larger scale than Bush and fails to a degree that has never been seen before in the history of the world some people want to "debate" if the stimulus worked or not...

It didn't, it was never meant to.. It was there to make the rich richer and buy votes, the 2 "hidden" benchmarks that it actually did manage to meet in excess.

How come liberals can bash “trickle down economics” and call it a failure but Government printing money, borrowing it or stealing it from people who actually work to pay people that don’t work or make incredibly bad investments for near the WHOLE amount that the stimulus was is somehow up for debate? All it did was everything you claim the evil Reagan and Bush did with trickle down economics only in fast fucking forward because they literally just handed the money to who they wanted to have it rather than let it “trickle” there over years.

But this is the internet, everything I said is fact and never has to be accounted for in conversation, you get to jump to your next thought with zero accountabiluty for the stupid crap you said abd I and many others answered.

What were the benchmarks?

Are you kidding me? Were you 14 when it was pasted and not paying attention to politics?

 

[Avorysuds]

The stimulus never met a single benchmark it set, not 1... Yet we still have to debate if it worked or not, fucking amazing. What did you people call Bush's stimulus? The X-box check... When Obama does a stimulus on a larger scale than Bush and fails to a degree that has never been seen before in the history of the world some people want to "debate" if the stimulus worked or not...

It didn't, it was never meant to.. It was there to make the rich richer and buy votes, the 2 "hidden" benchmarks that it actually did manage to meet in excess.

How come liberals can bash “trickle down economics” and call it a failure but Government printing money, borrowing it or stealing it from people who actually work to pay people that don’t work or make incredibly bad investments for near the WHOLE amount that the stimulus was is somehow up for debate? All it did was everything you claim the evil Reagan and Bush did with trickle down economics only in fast fucking forward because they literally just handed the money to who they wanted to have it rather than let it “trickle” there over years.

But this is the internet, everything I said is fact and never has to be accounted for in conversation, you get to jump to your next thought with zero accountabiluty for the stupid crap you said abd I and many others answered.

What were the benchmarks?

Are you kidding me? Were you 14 when it was pasted and not paying attention to politics?

This is just for starters, on topic and I never read it before I just used google at lightning speed.


The Obama Stimulus: Predictions vs. Reality « Political Math

 

[francoHFW]

The stimulus was too small, as it was thought the economy retracted 3%, while it turned out to be 9%. The Dems thought they could always get more stimulus money- Scott Brown was a disaster, 2/2010, but at least it was enough to turn the economy around to a slow recovery, no thanks to Pubs...

**** Dems only had filibusterproof majority for 6 months- seems like a big secret in this Pub propaganda/cowardly corporate media era...

*** taxes and spending stayed high until Kennedy tax cuts...by the time FDR got in there was little to be done, just gave the afflicted SOME work/food/hope till WWII. Pubs CAUSED foolish 20's boom and BUST, made it worse with tariffs, their isolationism let German/Japan militarists run wild....ALWAYS dumbazz thieves...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The stimulus was too small, as it was thought the economy retracted 3%, while it turned out to be 9%. The Dems thought they could always get more stimulus money- Scott Brown was a disaster, 2/2010, but at least it was enough to turn the economy around to a slow recovery, no thanks to Pubs...

**** Dems only had filibusterproof majority for 6 months- seems like a big secret in this Pub propaganda/cowardly corporate media era...

*** taxes and spending stayed high until Kennedy tax cuts...by the time FDR got in there was little to be done, just gave the afflicted SOME work/food/hope till WWII. Pubs CAUSED foolish 20's boom and BUST, made it worse with tariffs, their isolationism let German/Japan militarists run wild....ALWAYS dumbazz thieves...

Liar

Total Fucking liar.

Best thing now is even the Left is starting to admit that the New Deal was an Epic Fail

 

[Dot Com]

$787 billion? Sounds like Bu$h II's TARP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program
http://pewresearch.org/databank/dailynumber/?NumberID=1057

In numerous polls, the public has voiced their displeasure at the much maligned bank bailout, but most don't know which president signed the controversial act into law. Only a third of Americans (34%) correctly say the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) was enacted by the Bush administration. Nearly half (47%) incorrectly believe TARP was passed under President Obama.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The stimulus never met a single benchmark it set, not 1... Yet we still have to debate if it worked or not, fucking amazing. What did you people call Bush's stimulus? The X-box check... When Obama does a stimulus on a larger scale than Bush and fails to a degree that has never been seen before in the history of the world some people want to "debate" if the stimulus worked or not...

It didn't, it was never meant to.. It was there to make the rich richer and buy votes, the 2 "hidden" benchmarks that it actually did manage to meet in excess.

How come liberals can bash “trickle down economics” and call it a failure but Government printing money, borrowing it or stealing it from people who actually work to pay people that don’t work or make incredibly bad investments for near the WHOLE amount that the stimulus was is somehow up for debate? All it did was everything you claim the evil Reagan and Bush did with trickle down economics only in fast fucking forward because they literally just handed the money to who they wanted to have it rather than let it “trickle” there over years.

But this is the internet, everything I said is fact and never has to be accounted for in conversation, you get to jump to your next thought with zero accountabiluty for the stupid crap you said abd I and many others answered.

What were the benchmarks?

That we'll never go above 8 percent unemployment if passed. Lol!!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The stimulus was too small, as it was thought the economy retracted 3%, while it turned out to be 9%. The Dems thought they could always get more stimulus money- Scott Brown was a disaster, 2/2010, but at least it was enough to turn the economy around to a slow recovery, no thanks to Pubs...

**** Dems only had filibusterproof majority for 6 months- seems like a big secret in this Pub propaganda/cowardly corporate media era...

*** taxes and spending stayed high until Kennedy tax cuts...by the time FDR got in there was little to be done, just gave the afflicted SOME work/food/hope till WWII. Pubs CAUSED foolish 20's boom and BUST, made it worse with tariffs, their isolationism let German/Japan militarists run wild....ALWAYS dumbazz thieves...

Of course, all wrong, but funny.