It's not class warfare, it's Christianity

[Chris]

President Obama just drew the economic battlelines more clearly in his call to raise $1.5 trillion in new revenue primarily through increased taxes on the wealthy, letting the Bush tax cuts expire, and closing tax loopholes.
“Class warfare!” countered the Republicans.
Americans sharing more equally in the burden of pulling our country out of massive debt, and using tax revenue to stimulate the economy and create jobs isn’t “class warfare,” it’s actually Christianity.
Many Christians are starting to find the increasing concentration of wealth in the hands of a few very rich people to be an enormous moral and ethical problem. Catholic theologians and ethicists took pains recently to challenge Speaker Boehner on Catholic values in regard to his views, particularly on the economy.
But not all Christians agree with those perspectives. Today, not only is economics a political battleground, it is a faith battleground particularly in Christianity. According to some Christian conservatives, unregulated capitalism, with all its inherent inequalities of wealth, is God’s plan.
“Christian Captialism” in their view, isn’t an oxymoron, it’s God’s will as revealed in the Bible. God wants you to own property and make money, and if some make a lot more money than others, that’s okay. In fact, it’s God’s will too.
These competing views are very influential in our current public debates. The Christian conservative viewpoint, however, has been more instrumental in shaping our political shift to the right in recent years, not only on social issues, but also on economic issues. You can see this display in the “God Hates Taxes” signs carried at Tea Party rallies.
Let me be clear as I can be. We need to understand the so-called “Christian” underpinnings of the anti-tax, anti-government, anti-the-poor, “let him die” approach to economics and public policy today as completely un-Christian, as well as un-American. What we need to do is re-establish our national values of fairness, equality and opportunity for all, values that I believe are actually the core of the Christian faith, (as well as of other religious traditions and of humanist values).

It’s not ‘class warfare,’ it’s Christianity - - The Washington Post

 

[Texanmike]

FFS. Make up your mind. Separation of Church and state until we can find a reason to use Church to take away money and give it to the state?

Mike

 

[mascale]

European Anti-Semitism is not only famous, but Christian of origins. Post-WWII, it has become less apparent as a problem. WWII was not an event, however, in Sweden: Where it is notably on the rise again. Anything Middle Eastern generally is not apparently well regarded in Sweden.

The United States is easily not immune to xenophobic interpretations of Gospels even that may never have been written. The Federal Republicans delegations do not even have effective legislative leadership. 64 Fantasies in fact tend to run the whole federal show.

Sweden's Jews, Muslims face web hate rise: study - The Local

The Republican agenda is better summarized in Proverbs 22::16. "He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich; shall surely come to want and ruin." There are multiple translations. The Adjustable Rate Mortgages were an outcome of Republican supported, unregulated, accepted-as-normal, day-to-day business. Robo-signers became the norm. The Bush Tax Cuts blatantly gave whatever federal income at all there was to the rich. TARP went to bonsuses for rich bankers, in some macabre "Job-Well-Done" spirit of Christian decency. Fewer Jewish Financial House, were around and doing well.

Usury profits from the poor are prohbited in Exodus, Leviticus, and in Deuteronomy. The New Testament compels lending to the poor without any expectation of repayment.

Appeals to theology make no real sense, in the OP kind of analysis however. In Separation of Church and State, then the federal monument to Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., at the Capitol Mall makes an actual statement: About how blacks are regarded in the United States. "Reverend" may be the title, but black theology can never be construed to be religious of origins.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Young braves go into sweating-lodges, run into streams and lakes, and smoke substance of Great Spirit recognition! Christian White Eyes shoot them on sight!)

 

[Nic_Driver]

Manifest Destiny

It was wrong then too.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Obama easily fades from Christianity into Islam and any other required shade for perceived political gain.

Just like his fake accents he uses depending on the demographic of his audience.

 

[Chris33]

Republicans do not worship Jesus, they worship mana.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Republicans do not worship Jesus, they worship mana.

Very effective use of third post in three and half years.

 

[Chris33]

Republicans do not worship Jesus, they worship mana.

Very effective use of third post in three and half years.

That's a boo boo.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

President Obama just drew the economic battlelines more clearly in his call to raise $1.5 trillion in new revenue primarily through increased taxes on the wealthy, letting the Bush tax cuts expire, and closing tax loopholes.
“Class warfare!” countered the Republicans.
Americans sharing more equally in the burden of pulling our country out of massive debt, and using tax revenue to stimulate the economy and create jobs isn’t “class warfare,” it’s actually Christianity.
Many Christians are starting to find the increasing concentration of wealth in the hands of a few very rich people to be an enormous moral and ethical problem. Catholic theologians and ethicists took pains recently to challenge Speaker Boehner on Catholic values in regard to his views, particularly on the economy.
But not all Christians agree with those perspectives. Today, not only is economics a political battleground, it is a faith battleground particularly in Christianity. According to some Christian conservatives, unregulated capitalism, with all its inherent inequalities of wealth, is God’s plan.
“Christian Captialism” in their view, isn’t an oxymoron, it’s God’s will as revealed in the Bible. God wants you to own property and make money, and if some make a lot more money than others, that’s okay. In fact, it’s God’s will too.
These competing views are very influential in our current public debates. The Christian conservative viewpoint, however, has been more instrumental in shaping our political shift to the right in recent years, not only on social issues, but also on economic issues. You can see this display in the “God Hates Taxes” signs carried at Tea Party rallies.
Let me be clear as I can be. We need to understand the so-called “Christian” underpinnings of the anti-tax, anti-government, anti-the-poor, “let him die” approach to economics and public policy today as completely un-Christian, as well as un-American. What we need to do is re-establish our national values of fairness, equality and opportunity for all, values that I believe are actually the core of the Christian faith, (as well as of other religious traditions and of humanist values).

It’s not ‘class warfare,’ it’s Christianity - - The Washington Post

She is an idiot, just like you.

From your link.

This is what the Bible actually says about the economic practices of Jesus’ followers: “Now the company of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one said that any of the things which he possessed was his own, but they had everything in common... There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of what was sold and laid it at the apostles feet; and distribution was made to each as any had need.” Acts 4:32-35.

What she is advocating here is equating the church and the government. I guess she forgot a little thing called the Constitution which specifically forbids Congress from making any law respecting the establishment of religion.

Not to mention she is completely ignoring another scripture.

But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land?
Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

In other words, the early church did share what they had, but they did so voluntarily, not through coercion.

By the way, since this happened everywhere, and was always controlled by the local church, this proves the early church did not practice socialism, it practices communism. If it was socialistic all the money would have been sent to Jerusalem, and then redistributed however the people in Jerusalem saw fit.

She is also completely wrong here.

The Christian approach to economics is to be the conscience of the nation and to insist that we regulate capitalism so it does not become reckless and destructive. Christians must call on the nation’s politicians to have us share the burdens and the sacrifices, as President Obama is doing, in order get to the “freedom from want” that is in our democratic values and our faith values.

She is calling for Christians to impose their beliefs on others by force of law. My guess is all the anti dominionism nuts will step up and cheer her, ignoring the fact that they are contradicting themselves.

There is none so blind as those who will not see.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

FFS. Make up your mind. Separation of Church and state until we can find a reason to use Church to take away money and give it to the state?

Mike

See there Chris, Mike is smarter than you.

 

[Avatar4321]

Those who actually believe in Christ realize that you don't use force to put your beliefs on others. Christ invited people to give voluntarily. You can't force people to be good. If you aren't doing the right thing for the right reasons, you dont get the blessings God has in store.

The scriptures tell us to be content with our wages. We are also commanded not to covet our neighbors property.

I dont think God wants us worried about how much money someone else has. That's between them and God. We are supposed to put our faith in God and trust in Him. Because God can do more with $5 in the hands of an honest and obedient servant than $1 Trillion in someone who doesn't listen to Him.

I dont think God wants us stirring up contention with our brethren because they have more or less money than us. It's just contrary to scripture.

 

[mascale]

Medical Science during the Civil War was. . . .Christian at Best. In The Great Republican Genocide Of White People, 1861-1865, finally John Wilkes Booth was even compelled to a Christian Act, widely admired in Tea Party, GOP.

In other threads, the Gay Iraq War Veteran who became the next famous, Tea Party victim, is somehow alleged to have cheapened the U. S. Military Invasion and Occupation of Iraq: Clearly since homosexuality is thought to be a biblical abomination.

Eating bacon, which clearly is a biblical abomination: Was not alleged to be a cheapening of the U. S. Military Invasion and Occupation of Iraq. General Betrayus was not to be so-called, nor other dietary abominables.

Now, that is of the 64 GOP Ruling Fantasies concept of Christianity, fo' sure. The abominables, of America, in fact. . . .are probably all swine(?) to the 64 GOP Fantasies that run the show!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Shooting of many braves at Medicine Lodge near streams: Even thought better then, "Let Them Die!)

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

‘Class warfare’ has got to be one of the more idiotic contrivances of the right to date.

Let me be clear as I can be. We need to understand the so-called “Christian” underpinnings of the anti-tax, anti-government, anti-the-poor, “let him die” approach to economics and public policy today as completely un-Christian, as well as un-American. What we need to do is re-establish our national values of fairness, equality and opportunity for all, values that I believe are actually the core of the Christian faith, (as well as of other religious traditions and of humanist values).

Very true – unfortunate, but true.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

‘Class warfare’ has got to be one of the more idiotic contrivances of the right to date.

Let me be clear as I can be. We need to understand the so-called “Christian” underpinnings of the anti-tax, anti-government, anti-the-poor, “let him die” approach to economics and public policy today as completely un-Christian, as well as un-American. What we need to do is re-establish our national values of fairness, equality and opportunity for all, values that I believe are actually the core of the Christian faith, (as well as of other religious traditions and of humanist values).

Very true – unfortunate, but true.

You want to make Christianity the national religion?

Which version?

 

[The T]

Why is it that government has chosen to be our conscience by force?

 

[FactFinder]

President Obama just drew the economic battlelines more clearly in his call to raise $1.5 trillion in new revenue primarily through increased taxes on the wealthy, letting the Bush tax cuts expire, and closing tax loopholes.
“Class warfare!” countered the Republicans.
Americans sharing more equally in the burden of pulling our country out of massive debt, and using tax revenue to stimulate the economy and create jobs isn’t “class warfare,” it’s actually Christianity.
Many Christians are starting to find the increasing concentration of wealth in the hands of a few very rich people to be an enormous moral and ethical problem. Catholic theologians and ethicists took pains recently to challenge Speaker Boehner on Catholic values in regard to his views, particularly on the economy.
But not all Christians agree with those perspectives. Today, not only is economics a political battleground, it is a faith battleground particularly in Christianity. According to some Christian conservatives, unregulated capitalism, with all its inherent inequalities of wealth, is God’s plan.
“Christian Captialism” in their view, isn’t an oxymoron, it’s God’s will as revealed in the Bible. God wants you to own property and make money, and if some make a lot more money than others, that’s okay. In fact, it’s God’s will too.
These competing views are very influential in our current public debates. The Christian conservative viewpoint, however, has been more instrumental in shaping our political shift to the right in recent years, not only on social issues, but also on economic issues. You can see this display in the “God Hates Taxes” signs carried at Tea Party rallies.
Let me be clear as I can be. We need to understand the so-called “Christian” underpinnings of the anti-tax, anti-government, anti-the-poor, “let him die” approach to economics and public policy today as completely un-Christian, as well as un-American. What we need to do is re-establish our national values of fairness, equality and opportunity for all, values that I believe are actually the core of the Christian faith, (as well as of other religious traditions and of humanist values).

It’s not ‘class warfare,’ it’s Christianity - - The Washington Post

Even though you and most of the posters here probably cannot handle it properly, I'll give you one to think about. and..remember God loves the rich too. They are just into their own particular brand of sin.

James 5
1Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

2Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

3Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

4Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

5Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

6Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

7Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.

 

[Texanmike]

Eating bacon, which clearly is a biblical abomination: Was not alleged to be a cheapening of the U. S. Military Invasion and Occupation of Iraq. General Betrayus was not to be so-called, nor other dietary abominables.

People who haven't studied the bible probably shouldn't use it for rhetoric. It just makes them look stupid. Yes, that's you.

Mike