Its July 4th.....Have you thanked a Liberal today???

[LordBrownTrout]

Thank you. Do I get a prize now?

You get some cheese.

 

[Dr.House]

I know most of us are celebrating today with picnics, hot dogs and fireworks. But on this day of celebration of one of the most significant liberal accomplishments, it is time to reflect on just what this day means

Our liberal founding fathers shook the world when they declared that "All men are created equal" When you think of it, this was a time when royalty ruled by the merits of their blood alone. It was a time when different classes of people received different treatment from the government. It was a time when those who toiled in the fields received different treatment than those who owned the fields

In the most liberal concept of the day, our founding fathers stood up and declared .....We have god given rights to be treated the same as anyone else. Imagine declaring that royalty are no better than anyone else? Or that someone working in the fields deserved the same rights and the same vote as someone who owned the land or that some illiterate peasant deserved the same treatment as a royal family member.

Imagine what this country would be like if our founding fathers had listened to the conservatives of the day and remained loyal to the King or implemented a class system based on wealth?

Yes, this is a day of celebration of the greatest country in the history of the world. Take the time to be thankful for what this country gives us and find a liberal and give them a smile and a thumbs up for this special day

Most people would just wish the members of the forum a safe and happy 4h of July...

Asshole hacks would politicize it...

 

[Moonglow]

Modern Liberals would have blown every British solder in exchange for "Free Health Care"

Have a Happy 4th.

If you want to thank someone, Thank A Veteran

ty veterans, I served 6 years in the Army, how many did you serve?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yeah, JFK was a liberal too but look how far liberalism has drifted left in fifty years never mind 235 years. Today's libs are so desperate that they are reaching back 235 years and trying to compare modern liberalism/socialism with the courage of the Founding Fathers. It's downright disrespectful not to mention dishonest.

JFK wouldn't be considered a Liberal today, by any stretch of the imagination. Conservative yes, Liberal - no freaking way.

True conservatives are actually more like classic liberals than the current crop of Marxist interlopers parading around as liberals.

 

[Warrior102]

I know most of us are celebrating today with picnics, hot dogs and fireworks. But on this day of celebration of one of the most significant liberal accomplishments, it is time to reflect on just what this day means

Our liberal founding fathers shook the world when they declared that "All men are created equal" When you think of it, this was a time when royalty ruled by the merits of their blood alone. It was a time when different classes of people received different treatment from the government. It was a time when those who toiled in the fields received different treatment than those who owned the fields

In the most liberal concept of the day, our founding fathers stood up and declared .....We have god given rights to be treated the same as anyone else. Imagine declaring that royalty are no better than anyone else? Or that someone working in the fields deserved the same rights and the same vote as someone who owned the land or that some illiterate peasant deserved the same treatment as a royal family member.

Imagine what this country would be like if our founding fathers had listened to the conservatives of the day and remained loyal to the King or implemented a class system based on wealth?

Yes, this is a day of celebration of the greatest country in the history of the world. Take the time to be thankful for what this country gives us and find a liberal and give them a smile and a thumbs up for this special day

Most people would just wish the members of the forum a safe and happy 4h of July...

Asshole hacks would politicize it...

Yeah - seriously. Thank a Liberal on the fourth of July? Sure. First VW micro bus I see tonight I will thank them for their service to our nation in the armed forces.

LOL

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Modern Liberals would have blown every British solder in exchange for "Free Health Care"

Have a Happy 4th.

If you want to thank someone, Thank A Veteran

ty veterans, I served 6 years in the Army, how many did you serve?

What does this matter? All the man said was "thank a veteran".

Why do you have to inject this kind of stupid shit into the equation?

 

[Sherry]

Our founding fatherrs were the most extreme liberals of their day...

Imagine actually believing that "All men are created equal" in a day when royalty ruled by basis of their bloodlines and order of birth?

Imagine creating a country where a poor, illiterate laborer receives the same vote as the most wealthy citizen?


Liberal thought has improved this country since its founding

Modern day libs are so arrogant as to believe they can do it bigger and better than those rich and racist white men, and look down on the "outdated" Constitution.

How dare you?

Our great Constitution is not outdated. It grows stronger through time, just like our founding fathers intended. Through Amendment and legal interpretations, our Constitution is stronger today than it was when our founding fathers wrote it.

They would be proud of what our Nation has become

Hitting the bottle early, huh?? I'm not the one claiming it's "outdated", dumbass.

 

[Warrior102]

Modern Liberals would have blown every British solder in exchange for "Free Health Care"

Have a Happy 4th.

If you want to thank someone, Thank A Veteran

ty veterans, I served 6 years in the Army, how many did you serve?

Lemme guess - CAT4 waiver?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Shit.. is it too early for that Martini?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Modern Liberals would have blown every British solder in exchange for "Free Health Care"

Have a Happy 4th.

If you want to thank someone, Thank A Veteran

ty veterans, I served 6 years in the Army, how many did you serve?

Lemme guess - CAT4 waiver?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Shit.. is it too early for that Martini?

Might as well. There are a couple in the thread that are smoking fatties.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

What does this matter? All the man said was "thank a veteran".

Why do you have to inject this kind of stupid shit into the equation?

You were asked a question about your service in the American military. You didn't answer.
I bet I know why you reflexively and defensively chose to insult the questioner instead.

Actually, the question was asked of Frank. Do try and keep up... it will save the embarrassment of posting this kind of irrelevant nonsense.

 

[rightwinger]

The whole premise seems to be that anything evil is conservative, and anything wonderful is liberal.. which of course is utter nonsense, even if I were to subsitute conservative for liberal and vica versa.

You are welcome to identify any significant initiative or achievement given to us by Conservatives of any era

You are not welcome to claim the very founding of this nation as a 'liberal' achievement. You may not rewrite history. You may not steal the achievement of all our forefathers for your immoral bullshit.

And, you do not have permission to give your permission to any other American to decide what conservatives have given this nation. That permission is not yours to give.... but it is pretty typical of a fucking "liberal" to think that they do.

Fucking dumbass. You are an embarrassment to Americans - liberal, conservative, moderate or whatever else.

Sorry sweetheart...but as much as I love you, I will not let you rewrite the history of our great nation

Conservatives of the day were known as Torries and supported the crown. They fought hard against the so called traitorous rebels who wanted a nation based on one man- one vote. Conservatives are not allowed to change sides and claim that they supported the rebellion. History has shown that they didn't

 

[California Girl]

You're not expecting intellectual honesty from modern liberals are you? They haven't the capacity for such decency.

I don't agree. I know lots of intellectually honest liberals. Just happens that rightwhiner isn't one of them. He's a lying little shit who has neither intellectual honesty nor morals. There is no subject that is above his political point scoring. Unlike most of the rest of us, he puts politics over country.

 

[Sherry]

What does this matter? All the man said was "thank a veteran".

Why do you have to inject this kind of stupid shit into the equation?

You were asked a question about your service in the American military. You didn't answer.
I bet I know why you reflexively and defensively chose to insult the questioner instead.

Do you really want to make this a contest about where military members fall amongst the political spectrum, ya dumb fuck??

BTW, I think all this bickering btwn us on ID is giving RW a boner.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You are welcome to identify any significant initiative or achievement given to us by Conservatives of any era

You are not welcome to claim the very founding of this nation as a 'liberal' achievement. You may not rewrite history. You may not steal the achievement of all our forefathers for your immoral bullshit.

And, you do not have permission to give your permission to any other American to decide what conservatives have given this nation. That permission is not yours to give.... but it is pretty typical of a fucking "liberal" to think that they do.

Fucking dumbass. You are an embarrassment to Americans - liberal, conservative, moderate or whatever else.

Sorry sweetheart...but as much as I love you, I will not let you rewrite the history of our great nation

Conservatives of the day were known as Torries and supported the crown. They fought hard against the so called traitorous rebels who wanted a nation based on one man- one vote. Conservatives are not allowed to change sides and claim that they supported the rebellion. History has shown that they didn't

Lol!! And liberals of today aren't allowed to transport themselves back to the colonies and put on their blue coats.

 

[California Girl]

You are welcome to identify any significant initiative or achievement given to us by Conservatives of any era

You are not welcome to claim the very founding of this nation as a 'liberal' achievement. You may not rewrite history. You may not steal the achievement of all our forefathers for your immoral bullshit.

And, you do not have permission to give your permission to any other American to decide what conservatives have given this nation. That permission is not yours to give.... but it is pretty typical of a fucking "liberal" to think that they do.

Fucking dumbass. You are an embarrassment to Americans - liberal, conservative, moderate or whatever else.

Sorry sweetheart...but as much as I love you, I will not let you rewrite the history of our great nation

Conservatives of the day were known as Torries and supported the crown. They fought hard against the so called traitorous rebels who wanted a nation based on one man- one vote. Conservatives are not allowed to change sides and claim that they supported the rebellion. History has shown that they didn't

Man, you are just so incredibly, embarrassingly, stupid. Dear God, I feel sorry for you.

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah, JFK was a liberal too but look how far liberalism has drifted left in fifty years never mind 235 years. Today's libs are so desperate that they are reaching back 235 years and trying to compare modern liberalism/socialism with the courage of the Founding Fathers. It's downright disrespectful not to mention dishonest.

JFK wouldn't be considered a Liberal today, by any stretch of the imagination. Conservative yes, Liberal - no freaking way.

True conservatives are actually more like classic liberals than the current crop of Marxist interlopers parading around as liberals.

No...In fact they are not

They still oppose the rights of the individual, still oppose the rights of the common man, still support the wealthy and powerful, still are on the wrong side of history

Some things never change

 

[kaz]

Sorry sweetheart...but as much as I love you, I will not let you rewrite the history of our great nation

Conservatives of the day were known as Torries and supported the crown. They fought hard against the so called traitorous rebels who wanted a nation based on one man- one vote. Conservatives are not allowed to change sides and claim that they supported the rebellion. History has shown that they didn't

Funny stuff.

So you're arguing that conservatives want government, liberals oppose it. Liberals are like our founding fathers regarding one man one vote, which wasn't in the Constitution and was only granted to white, male landowners. And you're objecting to the chick rewriting history. You are a hoot, rightwinger.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Its July 4th.....Have you thanked a Liberal today???

lol – man, you really got the rightwing hornets angry with that one – this thread ought to be a sticky for rightist talking – points.

Otherwise your premise is fundamentally correct, particularly with regard to the Bill of Rights and the concept of the rule of law, something conservatives would have oppose, and many do so to this day.

Do you understand the political structure of this great nation? Liberals of both parties have contributed to the building of this great nation. Liberal Republicans fought against slavery and for civil rights. Liberal Republicans supported womens rights and the environment

This is not about Democrats and Republicans but about the great accomplishments of our liberal founding fathers

True and sad. The GOP was once populated by those who advocated sound governance and progressive reform – now the party is populated with reactionary extremists. Pity.

Our great Constitution is not outdated. It grows stronger through time, just like our founding fathers intended. Through Amendment and legal interpretations, our Constitution is stronger today than it was when our founding fathers wrote it.

They would be proud of what our Nation has become.

Correct again:

Had those who drew and ratified the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth Amendment or the Fourteenth Amendment known the components of liberty in its manifold possibilities, they might have been more specific. They did not presume to have this insight. They knew times can blind us to certain truths and later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress. As the Constitution endures, persons in every generation can invoke its principles in their own search for greater freedom.

Justice Anthony Kennedy, Lawrence v Texas (2003)