It’s Interesting How Obama Says Things That Are So Quickly Proven False

[MaggieMae]

Dana Perino mischaracterises the President words. Typical.

"So any notion that my administration has shut down oil production might make for a good political sound bite, but it doesn’t match up with reality. We are encouraging offshore exploration and production. We’re just doing it responsibly. I don’t think anybody has forgotten that we’re only a few months removed from the worst oil spill in our history. So what we’ve done is to put in place common-sense standards like proving that companies can actually contain an underwater spill. And oil companies are stepping up -- we’ve approved more than 35 new offshore drilling permits that meet these new safety and environmental standards."

Now if she had given the full quote and then proven that there were not 35 new offshore permits approved then I might believe her. Otherwise it's just partisan politics, again.

Oh so now we resort to calling what he said and what everyone in the USA believes he said a "mischaracterization"? Hahahaha!

Fortunately for all of us, the wise energy policies of the Obama administration have us well on the way to a sustainable, secure energy future for our nation. After all, who could argue with a policy where we seek to import less oil from abroad, stifle the domestic production of such resources and do nothing to replace the shortfall?

With that in mind, surely nobody would expect a result like this.

The lack of effective leadership on this vital issue has drawn the ire of a group of conservative leaders who recently provided a summary of just what we can expect in the future if nothing happens. Brace yourselves, as I’m sure none of you could have called this one.

Issue-in-Brief: Continued instability in the Middle East, combined with unprecedented foreign demand for oil and an uncertain economic recovery at home, has left the United States at the mercy of foreign dictators and markets – issues that would be alleviated if the Administration lifted its self-imposed energy freeze and let domestic producers get back to work, particularly in the Gulf. There is an obvious lack of leadership from the Obama Administration.

Demand for Oil is Skyrocketing

* Since President Obama assumed office gas prices have risen 87%! (From $1.83 to $3.43 and even higher in some states!)
* Global demand for oil is rising, and the competition for foreign resources has intensified. By 2035, the United States, Japan, OECD Europe, China, and India are projected to need 25 percent more imported oil than in 2005, with China and India accounting for the major portion of that increase.
* Instead of reaping the economic and social benefits of developing our domestic resources, the Gulf of Mexico (GOM), even despite the recent permit granted by the Department of Interior (DOI), remains closed for business. According to the Energy Information Agency, domestic offshore oil production will fall 13 percent in 2011, a loss of about 220,000 barrels/day, mainly due to the continued lack of permits for the GOM.

Shocking. That’s the only word for it. Who could have imagined that we would have to import more oil from unstable foreign sources if we don’t allow domestic producers to drill for it here?

Citing the unrest in the Middle East is dumb. Citing development of more oil reserves here is dumb too, when we wouldn't get to keep it anyway. Exxon-Mobil, et al., would need around 10 years before it started pumping from the ground from any new wells, and then it would sell it to the highest bidder, which would undoubtedly be China. And citing that only justifies the case for developing alternative fuel sources.

 

[MaggieMae]

Again the complete stupidity required to be a CON$ervartive is on display!!!!

Obama said domestic oil production is up.

I refer YOU to my last post with the graphs.

Drawn by some "committee"?? What was THEIR source? I don't doubt their projections, but that's really all they are based on formulas favorable to them.

 

[BlindBoo]

Are you prepared to prove that 35 new offshore permits have not been issued?

LOL....are YOU prepared to admit that issuing 35 brand new oil drilling permits ONLY means that it will take 7-10 years before oil from them is anywhere near ready to begin flowing from them?

The FACT is that there were permits ALREADY ISSUED and wells already producing oil that were shut down and are now moving away from the Gulf because of Obama's ILLEGAL permitorium.

7 to 10 years is correct. Those were 35 offshore drilling permits in the Gulf of Mexico. Not one production well was shut down in the Gulf of Mexico due to the deep water drilling ban. Only a total of 33 projects were put on hold too. But the way you pseudo-cons go on you'd think he totally stopped production.

 

[MaggieMae]

SPIN: “Even if we tap every single resource available to us, we can't escape the fact we only control 2% of the world's oil but we consume over a quarter of the world's oil.” (President Obama, Press Conference, 3/11/11)

RINSE:

* According to a recently released Congressional Research Service (CRS) report, the United States combined recoverable oil, natural gas, and coal resources is the largest in the World – outranking Saudi Arabia, China and Iran.
* The President is ignoring the majority of America’s energy resources. The 2% figure is a narrow estimate based on the United State’s proven oil reserves – currently measured at 19.1 billion barrels of oil. However, according to the CRS the U.S. actually has 145.5 billion barrels of recoverable oil.
* Total recoverable energy reserves for the United States (combing oil, natural gas and coal) is 1.3 trillion barrels of oil equivalent – the largest in the world.
* This number does not even take into account the large oil shale reserves in the United States. The Department of Energy estimates 1.38 trillion barrels of shale oil are recoverable from approximately 7.8 million acres of federal land. The United States Geological Survey (USGS) estimates that our oil shale reserves could be greater than 1.5 trillion barrels of oil. This is five times larger than Saudi Arabia’s proven reserves.

SPIN: “Oil production last year rose to its highest level since 2003.” (Heather Zichal, “Expanding Safe and Responsible Energy Production,” The White House Blog, 3/8/11)

RINSE:

* The Obama Administration’s actions have caused domestic energy production to decrease.
* In 2007, the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) projected total 2010 U.S. oil production on federal lands to be 850 million barrels. Today’s actual production on federal lands is 714 million barrels, a 16 percent decline from what was projected. If it wasn’t for the Obama Administration, the U.S. would be producing more energy.
* This is why FUTURE projections show a decline in U.S. production and an increase in imports. On March 8, 2011 the EIA published new projections that show a decline in total U.S. crude oil production of 110,000 barrels per day in 2011 and 130,000 barrels per day in 2012.
* Finally, the White House does not explain that the vast majority of increased production is occurring on private lands, not public. For example, North Dakota alone produced almost 120 million barrels of oil in 2010, compared to just over 20 million in 2003. The majority of North Dakota’s production is on private land. This begs the question, why are we not using our federal lands to create American jobs and produce American energy resources to lower prices?

SPIN: “U.S. oil and natural gas production has increased, while imports of foreign oil have decreased.” (White House Fact Sheet, “Fact Sheet: Expanding Safe And Responsible Oil And Gas Production,” Scribd, Accessed 3/14/11)

RINSE:

* Since 2008, U.S. foreign oil imports have decreased by 2 million barrels per day—at the same time, U.S. consumption has decreased by 2 million barrels per day.
* Imports have decreased, not because of Obama Administration policies, but because demand decreased due to a floundering economy and high unemployment.
* Once again, any increase in onshore or offshore oil and gas development can be attributed to previous Administrations’ pro-energy policies. Canceling leases and slow-walking offshore permits, as the Obama Administration has done, does not increase American energy production.
* This is why EIA’s Short Term Energy Outlook shows total U.S. oil production DECREASING by nearly 250,000 barrels per day in 2012.

SPIN: “Total U.S. natural gas production in 2010 was 26.9 trillion cubic feet, a 5% increase from 2008 and the highest level in more than 30 years.” (White House Fact Sheet, “Fact Sheet: Expanding Safe And Responsible Oil And Gas Production,” Scribd, Accessed 3/14/11)

RINSE:

* The vast majority of the 5% increase represents natural gas extracted from private land, where the Obama Administration has had less of an ability to impede production.
* The Obama Administration is actively trying to impose regulations that would decrease natural gas production. The Environmental Protection Agency has been aggressively trying to stop natural gas production though regulation of hydraulic fracturing - the currently state-regulated drilling technology necessary for U.S. natural gas production to increase.
* The Department of the Interior has also announced potential plans to impede natural gas production on federal lands through duplicative hydraulic fracturing regulations.

Offshore Energy Production:

SPIN: “From 2008 to 2010, oil production from the Outer Continental Shelf increased more than a third – from 446 million barrels in 2008 to an [sic] more than 600 million barrels of estimated production in 2010.” (Heather Zichal, “Expanding Safe and Responsible Energy Production,” The White House Blog, 3/8/11)

RINSE:

* Once again, the Obama Administration is attempting to take credit for actions they had nothing to do with. The strong production in the Gulf was due to leases issued in 1996-2000 under the Deepwater Royalty Relief Act – long before President Obama took office.
* The Obama Administration’s actions, such as imposing a de facto moratorium, are causing energy production to decline in the Gulf of Mexico. EIA shows a 300,000 barrel per day decline in current Gulf production and a projected Gulf decline of over 150 million barrels of oil in 2012.

SPIN: “Since the Deepwater Horizon spill and the implementation of stronger safety standards, BOEMRE has approved 37 shallow water permits in the Gulf of Mexico.” (White House Fact Sheet, “Fact Sheet: Expanding Safe And Responsible Oil And Gas Production,” Scribd, Accessed 3/14/11)

RINSE:

* As of February 2011, shallow-water permit issuance continues to lag behind the historical average of 7.1 permits per month.
* 37 permits issued since April 2010 represents an average of only 3.7per month.
* Only two deepwater permits have been issued - over four months after the moratorium was officially listed. The Administration is being held in contempt for slow-walking permits and is currently trying to appeal a Federal Judge’s ruling that ordered them to act on stalled deepwater permits.

SPIN: “The Obama Administration is working to increase the responsible and safe production of oil and gas in the United States, and has offered a total of 38 million acres of OCS under active lease of which 6.5 million acres are producing.” (White House Fact Sheet, “Fact Sheet: Expanding Safe And Responsible Oil And Gas Production,” Scribd, Accessed 3/14/11)

RINSE:

* The reason there is not production on 31.5 million acres is because the Obama Administration has stopped activity and is failing to issue permits to drill.
* This is blocking expanded American energy production in both the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska.

Onshore Energy Production:

SPIN: “Onshore oil production from public lands has also increased over the last year, from 109 million barrels in 2009 to 114 million barrels in 2010.” (Heather Zichal, “Expanding Safe and Responsible Energy Production,” The White House Blog, 3/8/11)

RINSE:

* The slight increase in onshore production from federal lands is due to lease sales approved by previous Administrations—not the Obama Administration.
* Since taking office, the Obama Administration has slowed onshore energy development on public lands and issued fewer leases.
* In 2008 there were 2,416 new oil and natural gas leases issued on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) land spanning 2.6 million acres. In 2010, under the Obama Administration, the number of new leases issued dropped to 1,308 and acres leased dropped to 1.3 million.
* The total onshore acreage leased under the Obama Administration in 2009 and 2010 are the lowest in over two decades, stretching back to at least 1984.

SPIN: “In 2010, the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) held 29 oil and gas lease sales for public lands in the West, offering 1643 parcels covering 3.2 million acres.” (White House Fact Sheet, “Fact Sheet: Expanding Safe And Responsible Oil And Gas Production,” Scribd, Accessed 3/14/11)

RINSE:

* 29 lease sales may seem high, until it’s compared to 2008 when there were 38 lease sales. Lease sales have DECREASED under the Obama Administration.
* The total onshore acreage leased under the Obama Administration in 2009 and 2010 are the lowest in over two decades, stretching back to at least 1984.

SPIN: “41 million acres of public lands are under lease for oil and gas development, of which 12 million acres are producing.” (White House Fact Sheet, “Fact Sheet: Expanding Safe And Responsible Oil And Gas Production,” Scribd, Accessed 3/14/11)

RINSE:

* This argument represents a fundamental misunderstanding of the process of oil and gas development on public lands.
* The process of developing a lease – from the sale to actual production – takes time. Approximately one-third of leases are waiting to complete environmental review and obtain permits to drill. The Obama Administration has slowed this process by adding new layers of regulations and hurdles.
* Total acres leased are not an accurate representation of potential energy development as all leases DO NOT contain economically recoverable amounts of oil and gas.
* From 2002-2007, 52% of all exploration wells drilled were dry and 8% of the development wells drilled were dry.

SPIN: “The Administration is working to increase certainty and reduce costly delays and litigation in the onshore oil and gas leasing process.” (White House Fact Sheet, “Fact Sheet: Expanding Safe And Responsible Oil And Gas Production,” Scribd, Accessed 3/14/11)

RINSE:

* The Department of the Interior’s proposed “wild lands” policy to treat designated lands as de facto Wilderness Areas will lock-up land from energy development, decrease certainty and increase costly delays for energy developers.
* BLM has admitted to a 206 day average processing time for Applications for Permits to Drill (APD). However the actual time from when a company submits an APD to final approval is close to 2 years in some field offices.

Well if Mr. Inofe and his brainiacs can figure out a way for the US to actually KEEP all that oil, continue mining coal and pumping natural gas, and if they're comfortable with the American landscape looking like one giant black hole from the sheer number of oil wells, sheered off mountaintops, and gas pipelines criss-crossing every back yard in the country, then I'd say knock yourselves out. I won't be around to see what an unsightly mess you will make of my once beautiful land.

 

[MaggieMae]

Good question.

Dana Perino pointed out the administration’s total disregard for the truth today on FOX News Sunday,

“It is interesting to me how the administration allows President Obama to say things that are so quickly proven false… The facts are standing in the way of their rhetoric.”

Or, in other words, Obama is a proven liar and doesn’t seem to care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmS31TRslZw&feature=player_embedded

President Obama told the American public on Friday:

So any notion that my administration has shut down oil production might make for a good political sound bite, but it doesn’t match up with reality. We are encouraging offshore exploration and production.

It was a horrible lie.
The American Petroleum Institute responded to the president:

The Obama administration continues to delay or defer action on developing our domestic resources of oil and natural gas at every turn.

“The trend is alarming. The administration has postponed lease sales in offshore areas. It has cancelled lease sales in onshore federal lands. It has extended permitting timelines for current leases and added unnecessary regulatory burdens. It has chosen inaction on essential energy projects that would create jobs, drive economic growth, and boost federal revenues.

“The administration is well on its way toward creating higher gasoline prices for Americans.

“To get more oil and gas, we need more access. Placing more government lands and waters off-limits and forcing companies to focus on areas that may show little promise even if already under lease will not solve our energy challenges.

Dana Perino is right.

It is frightening that the Obama Administration is so willing to openly lie to the American public.

Democrats would NEVER get elected to public office except for the stupid factor. Give Obama credit.......he knows he can just about say anything out there knowing that a vast majority of the public would buy a bag of dog doo for $1,000 a pop if it was presented just right. Obama and Co know this.........and will continue to blow smoke up the asses of the public. The total phoney still has about 42% approval.

Fact is..........most people dont follow the news except for dribs and drabs. Also, most dont know shit about shit about public policy so always go for anything as long as the wind is blowing right.

Of course Perino is spot on correct but nobody knows who she is.


Obama has been a modern Wizard of Oz since he first came on the scene.........and whose gonna hold his feet to the fire? The media??

And there you have it. Ignorance abounds. The "right" is not always "right." Oil won't always be the answer to our energy needs. Obama is not always wrong. Further addressing the OP, rather than to your very familiar but stupid generalized opinion, it was not Obama that lied--it was Perrino who lied by omission.

 

[MaggieMae]

Good question.

Dana Perino pointed out the administration’s total disregard for the truth today on FOX News Sunday,

“It is interesting to me how the administration allows President Obama to say things that are so quickly proven false… The facts are standing in the way of their rhetoric.”

Or, in other words, Obama is a proven liar and doesn’t seem to care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmS31TRslZw&feature=player_embedded

President Obama told the American public on Friday:

So any notion that my administration has shut down oil production might make for a good political sound bite, but it doesn’t match up with reality. We are encouraging offshore exploration and production.

It was a horrible lie.
The American Petroleum Institute responded to the president:

The Obama administration continues to delay or defer action on developing our domestic resources of oil and natural gas at every turn.

“The trend is alarming. The administration has postponed lease sales in offshore areas. It has cancelled lease sales in onshore federal lands. It has extended permitting timelines for current leases and added unnecessary regulatory burdens. It has chosen inaction on essential energy projects that would create jobs, drive economic growth, and boost federal revenues.

“The administration is well on its way toward creating higher gasoline prices for Americans.

“To get more oil and gas, we need more access. Placing more government lands and waters off-limits and forcing companies to focus on areas that may show little promise even if already under lease will not solve our energy challenges.

Dana Perino is right.

It is frightening that the Obama Administration is so willing to openly lie to the American public.

"Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that," Mr. Obama continued. "But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. That's just a fact."

And old as the hills, too.

 

[MaggieMae]

Hey Moonbats...why not try some ad hominem attacks against this guy too then?:

Bill Clinton: Drilling delays 'ridiculous' - Darren Goode - POLITICO.com

Former President Bill Clinton said Friday that delays in offshore oil and gas drilling permits are “ridiculous” at a time when the economy is still rebuilding, according to attendees at the IHS CERAWeek conference.

Clinton spoke on a panel with former President George W. Bush that was closed to the media. Video of their moderated talk with IHS CERA Chairman Daniel Yergin was also prohibited. …

Clinton said there are “ridiculous delays in permitting when our economy doesn’t need it,” according to Noe and others.

Drilling isn't my problem, and I don't think it's Obama's problem either. But when it is seen as the exclusive answer to our energy problems, it then becomes the problem.

 

[TheSeeker]

Further addressing the OP, rather than to your very familiar but stupid generalized opinion, it was not Obama that lied--it was Perrino who lied by omission.

Too bad I'm tired of repeating the many times I showed he lied here again for someone too lazy to read the thread.

When you feel like buying a CLUE.....try reading it.

His SPIN often has maybe ONE grain of truth in it, and the rest is TOTAL BULLSHIT.

 

[TheSeeker]

Drilling isn't my problem, and I don't think it's Obama's problem either.

If it isn't a problem for Obama, please explain why he refused to follow the Judge's decision and illegally refuse to lift the Permitorium on drilling?

 

[Jack Fate]

The true believer lefty really doesn't care if Obama lies. Only if a righty lies. The only thing that matters to the lefty is the goal. How you get there is irrelevant. Rules are for your opponents.

 

[gautama]

Good question.

Dana Perino pointed out the administration’s total disregard for the truth today on FOX News Sunday,

“It is interesting to me how the administration allows President Obama to say things that are so quickly proven false… The facts are standing in the way of their rhetoric.”

Or, in other words, Obama is a proven liar and doesn’t seem to care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmS31TRslZw&feature=player_embedded

President Obama told the American public on Friday:

So any notion that my administration has shut down oil production might make for a good political sound bite, but it doesn’t match up with reality. We are encouraging offshore exploration and production.

It was a horrible lie.
The American Petroleum Institute responded to the president:

The Obama administration continues to delay or defer action on developing our domestic resources of oil and natural gas at every turn.

“The trend is alarming. The administration has postponed lease sales in offshore areas. It has cancelled lease sales in onshore federal lands. It has extended permitting timelines for current leases and added unnecessary regulatory burdens. It has chosen inaction on essential energy projects that would create jobs, drive economic growth, and boost federal revenues.

“The administration is well on its way toward creating higher gasoline prices for Americans.

“To get more oil and gas, we need more access. Placing more government lands and waters off-limits and forcing companies to focus on areas that may show little promise even if already under lease will not solve our energy challenges.

Dana Perino is right.

It is frightening that the Obama Administration is so willing to openly lie to the American public.

Democrats would NEVER get elected to public office except for the stupid factor. Give Obama credit.......he knows he can just about say anything out there knowing that a vast majority of the public would buy a bag of dog doo for $1,000 a pop if it was presented just right. Obama and Co know this.........and will continue to blow smoke up the asses of the public. The total phoney still has about 42% approval.

Fact is..........most people dont follow the news except for dribs and drabs. Also, most dont know shit about shit about public policy so always go for anything as long as the wind is blowing right.

Of course Perino is spot on correct but nobody knows who she is.


Obama has been a modern Wizard of Oz since he first came on the scene.........and whose gonna hold his feet to the fire? The media??

And there you have it. Ignorance abounds. The "right" is not always "right." Oil won't always be the answer to our energy needs. Obama is not always wrong. Further addressing the OP, rather than to your very familiar but stupid generalized opinion, it was not Obama that lied--it was Perrino who lied by omission.

The display of MONUMENTAL distortion and OUTRIGHT BLATANT LYING on the part of the Pathological Liar Obami Salami and his Obamarrhoidal Stooges has reached a point where it is useless to discuss anything that the semi-black Pathologically LYING MARXIST says or even does.....and then blatantly denies doing so by barfing out lies which his Obamarrhoidal stooges pick up en masse and flood the information systems with their flagrant lies, echoing their master puppeteer.

All this points to the absolute necessity to throw this Piece of Shit out of office come 2012.

 

[TheSeeker]

Dana Perino mischaracterises the President words. Typical.

"So any notion that my administration has shut down oil production might make for a good political sound bite, but it doesn’t match up with reality. We are encouraging offshore exploration and production. We’re just doing it responsibly. I don’t think anybody has forgotten that we’re only a few months removed from the worst oil spill in our history. So what we’ve done is to put in place common-sense standards like proving that companies can actually contain an underwater spill. And oil companies are stepping up -- we’ve approved more than 35 new offshore drilling permits that meet these new safety and environmental standards."

Now if she had given the full quote and then proven that there were not 35 new offshore permits approved then I might believe her. Otherwise it's just partisan politics, again.

Oh so now we resort to calling what he said and what everyone in the USA believes he said a "mischaracterization"? Hahahaha!

Fortunately for all of us, the wise energy policies of the Obama administration have us well on the way to a sustainable, secure energy future for our nation. After all, who could argue with a policy where we seek to import less oil from abroad, stifle the domestic production of such resources and do nothing to replace the shortfall?

With that in mind, surely nobody would expect a result like this.

The lack of effective leadership on this vital issue has drawn the ire of a group of conservative leaders who recently provided a summary of just what we can expect in the future if nothing happens. Brace yourselves, as I’m sure none of you could have called this one.

Issue-in-Brief: Continued instability in the Middle East, combined with unprecedented foreign demand for oil and an uncertain economic recovery at home, has left the United States at the mercy of foreign dictators and markets – issues that would be alleviated if the Administration lifted its self-imposed energy freeze and let domestic producers get back to work, particularly in the Gulf. There is an obvious lack of leadership from the Obama Administration.

Demand for Oil is Skyrocketing

* Since President Obama assumed office gas prices have risen 87%! (From $1.83 to $3.43 and even higher in some states!)
* Global demand for oil is rising, and the competition for foreign resources has intensified. By 2035, the United States, Japan, OECD Europe, China, and India are projected to need 25 percent more imported oil than in 2005, with China and India accounting for the major portion of that increase.
* Instead of reaping the economic and social benefits of developing our domestic resources, the Gulf of Mexico (GOM), even despite the recent permit granted by the Department of Interior (DOI), remains closed for business. According to the Energy Information Agency, domestic offshore oil production will fall 13 percent in 2011, a loss of about 220,000 barrels/day, mainly due to the continued lack of permits for the GOM.

Shocking. That’s the only word for it. Who could have imagined that we would have to import more oil from unstable foreign sources if we don’t allow domestic producers to drill for it here?

Citing the unrest in the Middle East is dumb. Citing development of more oil reserves here is dumb too, when we wouldn't get to keep it anyway. Exxon-Mobil, et al., would need around 10 years before it started pumping from the ground from any new wells, and then it would sell it to the highest bidder, which would undoubtedly be China. And citing that only justifies the case for developing alternative fuel sources.

Showing how clueless you are about how oil prices work doesn't make your point for you at all.

Oil FUTURES dictate the prices. Simply SAYING that you're going to allow more drilling or just SAYING you're going to release oil from the Strategic Oil Supply (as he hinted he might) will drop the price. That's the entire reason he said he was considering doing that.

Also, it's just plain common sense that adding more barrels of oil to the world market will cause a decrease. But you seem to be rather short on the common sense part.

 

[MaggieMae]

So as the "Obama can do no wrong" supporters continue to atack this one situation cited by the author of the thread...

May I ask..

Did he promise to close GITMO?
Unfortunately, it was easier said than done.

DId he say that there were no earmarks in the healthcare plan?
I don't think he said there were none in Obama care, but his campaign promise of no earmarks was, of course, met with the reality that most lawmakers believe it is their constitutional mandate to direct money to their districts. And that isn't about to change. At least we can now see what they are, unless one of them puts a "hold" on an entire bill which effectively cuts it off from further discussion/publication/view.

DId he say it was rhetoric that they double counted the 500 M medicare?
Too bad all our current crop of lawmakers, many with lengthy terms so they should know, suddenly are aware that the scoring is exactly the same as it's been for 30 years under Presidents of both parties and Congresses of both parties. Savings in programs like Medicare and Social Security are scored as improving the solvency of those programs. They are not, and never have been budget items because they are supposed to fund themselves from payroll taxes.

Read more: Obamacare Cost | HHS Director Admits Double Counting Funds | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment

Did he say everyone will be able to keep their doctor if they wish?
And you can. But if your doctor starts ordering up unnecessary or duplicitous tests, your insurance may not cover those unless you opt for a Cadillac health insurance plan.

The issue is his honesty...and he has proimised a lot since he took the oath....and much of what he promised was not true.

Sadly...he knows people like you will ignore his lies.....and he is correct.

"Lies" is a misnomer, and you know it.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

 

[BlindBoo]

Further addressing the OP, rather than to your very familiar but stupid generalized opinion, it was not Obama that lied--it was Perrino who lied by omission.

Too bad I'm tired of repeating the many times I showed he lied here again for someone too lazy to read the thread.

When you feel like buying a CLUE.....try reading it.

His SPIN often has maybe ONE grain of truth in it, and the rest is TOTAL BULLSHIT.

You have yet to provide the lie. I think you need to rename your thread here to

"It's Interesting How Fast Fox New declares anything President Obama says false."

And by God they have a partial clip that proves it.

 

[Jack Fate]

Oh c'mon you lefties. We all know Obama is lazy pathological liar. He's just another political hack in a new package. You bought the package and it's full of hot air. Nothing more.

 

[Jack Fate]

Further addressing the OP, rather than to your very familiar but stupid generalized opinion, it was not Obama that lied--it was Perrino who lied by omission.

Too bad I'm tired of repeating the many times I showed he lied here again for someone too lazy to read the thread.

When you feel like buying a CLUE.....try reading it.

His SPIN often has maybe ONE grain of truth in it, and the rest is TOTAL BULLSHIT.

You have yet to provide the lie. I think you need to rename your thread here to

"It's Interesting How Fast Fox New declares anything President Obama says false."

And by God they have a partial clip that proves it.

Here we go.....squawk, squawk....fox news....squawk, squawk......Beck.....Squawk....O'Reilly.....Squawk....Fox news....squawk......

 

[gautama]

Too bad I'm tired of repeating the many times I showed he lied here again for someone too lazy to read the thread.

When you feel like buying a CLUE.....try reading it.

His SPIN often has maybe ONE grain of truth in it, and the rest is TOTAL BULLSHIT.

You have yet to provide the lie. I think you need to rename your thread here to

"It's Interesting How Fast Fox New declares anything President Obama says false."

And by God they have a partial clip that proves it.

Here we go.....squawk, squawk....fox news....squawk, squawk......Beck.....Squawk....O'Reilly.....Squawk....Fox news....squawk......

JF,



Spot on !

You encapsulated the Obamarrhoidal rhetoric.

These Obamarrhoidal stooges are reduced to one blatant lie after another, punctuated by their attacks on anti-LibTURD spokespeople and Fox news.

 

[Jarhead]

Come on! This crap has already been debunked earlier in this thread.

The ACTUAL production was up over the previous ACTUAL production. But that will never stop a CON$ervative from manufacturing a lie.

Again, how big of a major league do you have to be to claim that ACTUAL production that exceeded the previous ACTUAL production means that ACTUAL production is "down," and anyone who accurately claims that ACTUAL production is UP is a liar!!!!

Simple....

If you spend the money and the resources (or havr the resources available) to increase prodiction of X to (x+Y) ...and you get substantially less than (x + Y) although perhaps an increase over X.....then production is down per dollar/man hour spent (or available).

Your problem is you look at an increase as sa simple "volume"...but in a business/economic analysis, it is based on a ratio.

Sadly, such is how many on the left view things.

You need to think out of the box.

All you have shown is just how WORTHLESS projections are.

You need to confine yourself to the truth.

You have just lost the debate.
One cannot make an educated decision without running projections that are based on factual historical data.
Projections are not only NOT worthless...but they are imperative for proper decision making.

In the case of oil..it is based on historical usage (demand); available resources; available capital to employ those reseources.

So...in essence...using YOUR insitance that production was up....sure....but we had the ability to employ many more people and have the production up even more.

Obama policies prevented this.....and as opposed to accepting the heat, he simply used rhetoric and said "look, oil production is up"...

Knowing that people like you will say "see? The man is great. Production is up"

But....you see...when you can produce X+Y and employ many more by doing it....but due to policies, you produce x + (y-z) and employ less doing it....you are actually well behind the 8 ball.

But please....argue for the man who believes you are way to naive to see through his rhetoric.

 

[Jarhead]

Further addressing the OP, rather than to your very familiar but stupid generalized opinion, it was not Obama that lied--it was Perrino who lied by omission.

Too bad I'm tired of repeating the many times I showed he lied here again for someone too lazy to read the thread.

When you feel like buying a CLUE.....try reading it.

His SPIN often has maybe ONE grain of truth in it, and the rest is TOTAL BULLSHIT.

You have yet to provide the lie. I think you need to rename your thread here to

"It's Interesting How Fast Fox New declares anything President Obama says false."

And by God they have a partial clip that proves it.

Its interesting how those that dont watch fox news spew crap implying they know what fox news does and doesnt do.

FOx news reports on the President. Not their fault if those such as Bill Clinton say (paraphrased), 'the man is nuts'

 

[beowolfe]

Good question.

Dana Perino pointed out the administration’s total disregard for the truth today on FOX News Sunday,

“It is interesting to me how the administration allows President Obama to say things that are so quickly proven false… The facts are standing in the way of their rhetoric.”

Or, in other words, Obama is a proven liar and doesn’t seem to care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmS31TRslZw&feature=player_embedded

President Obama told the American public on Friday:

So any notion that my administration has shut down oil production might make for a good political sound bite, but it doesn’t match up with reality. We are encouraging offshore exploration and production.

It was a horrible lie.
The American Petroleum Institute responded to the president:

The Obama administration continues to delay or defer action on developing our domestic resources of oil and natural gas at every turn.

“The trend is alarming. The administration has postponed lease sales in offshore areas. It has cancelled lease sales in onshore federal lands. It has extended permitting timelines for current leases and added unnecessary regulatory burdens. It has chosen inaction on essential energy projects that would create jobs, drive economic growth, and boost federal revenues.

“The administration is well on its way toward creating higher gasoline prices for Americans.

“To get more oil and gas, we need more access. Placing more government lands and waters off-limits and forcing companies to focus on areas that may show little promise even if already under lease will not solve our energy challenges.

Dana Perino is right.

It is frightening that the Obama Administration is so willing to openly lie to the American public.

I guess neither you not the Faux News talking heads have a clue what 'shut down' means? Are we still producing oil in the US? Yes. If Obama had shut down oil production in the US would we still be producing oil in the US? No. Seeker, it's really hard to believe that you're so gullible as to be taken in by Faux News.