It took two weeks for Romney to call Benghazi a terrorist attack

[OODA_Loop]

I want quotes of the president sayng there is no more al qaeda, there is no more hatred, and there will never again be terrorist attacks against us.

Of course you do. You want to parse and argue about the meaning of the exact words into a message which supports your premise.

This administration has gone on at length about how al-queda leadership is decimated, tcommand / communication is destroyed, assets seized, they are on the run, up against the ropes, the Arab Spring is a positive manifestation of the new found freedom in the these countries away from terror, he ended the Iraq War, set a date for withdrawal from AFG, of course Bin Laden is dead and every other act of terror, on the mainland and posts abroad is determined to not be al-Qaeda or terror.

The American people are done with the "you didnt build that" brand of wordfuckery.

 

[SniperFire]

From the Rose Garden speech, we see that Obama clearly blames this incident on the video:

'“Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.”

 

[sakinago]

[He did not call Benghazi an act of terror, he was generalizing.

Stop lying.

"Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

Stop. Now.

No duh, you have to call it an attack. Our point is, is that the use of the word terror was very general, and if the president wanted to make it clear that this was a terrorist attack, he would have done so, instead of talking about the video and protest for almost a month after it happened. Which brings me to another point, you expect me to believe that Obama was working as hard as possible to find out what went on, but it took our intelligence 2 weeks to come to a very easy conclusion using eye witnesses and video surveillance that this had nothing to do with the video and there was no protest? So either Obama was not working as hard as possible, and not reading intel briefings, or he was indeed trying to mislead the american people that this had something to do with the video.

 

[edthecynic]

Obama and his admin perpetuated a lie for weeks about the attack being a 'spontaneous mob reaction/protest to the film' (the admin later admitted there had been no protest) rather than it being a 'preplanned terrorist attack'. He knew this was a lie yet he, and his admin, continued to push it.

U.S.: Evidence doesn’t show planning in Libyan attack - The Washington Post

U.S. intelligence officials said Friday that no evidence has surfaced to indicate that the Sept. 11 assault on a U.S. diplomatic outpost in Libya was planned in advance, a conclusion that suggests the attack was spontaneous even if it involved militants with ties to al-Qaeda.
The description represents the latest shift in the U.S. government’s evolving account of an attack that claimed the life of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, as well as three other U.S. citizens, and has become entangled in the politics of the presidential campaign.
“There isn’t any intelligence that the attackers pre-planned their assault days or weeks in advance,” a U.S. intelligence official said. “The bulk of available information supports the early assessment that the attackers launched their assault opportunistically after they learned about the violence at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.”

 

[sakinago]

Obama and his admin perpetuated a lie for weeks about the attack being a 'spontaneous mob reaction/protest to the film' (the admin later admitted there had been no protest) rather than it being a 'preplanned terrorist attack'. He knew this was a lie yet he, and his admin, continued to push it.

U.S.: Evidence doesn’t show planning in Libyan attack - The Washington Post

U.S. intelligence officials said Friday that no evidence has surfaced to indicate that the Sept. 11 assault on a U.S. diplomatic outpost in Libya was planned in advance, a conclusion that suggests the attack was spontaneous even if it involved militants with ties to al-Qaeda.
The description represents the latest shift in the U.S. government’s evolving account of an attack that claimed the life of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, as well as three other U.S. citizens, and has become entangled in the politics of the presidential campaign.
“There isn’t any intelligence that the attackers pre-planned their assault days or weeks in advance,” a U.S. intelligence official said. “The bulk of available information supports the early assessment that the attackers launched their assault opportunistically after they learned about the violence at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.”

Okay good, so Al-queda didnt come out and say, yes this attack was pre-planned, but it was just coincidence that it happened on 9/11, and that the oppurtunistic terrorist just happened to know where the safe-house for the ambassador was. How does that math add up for anyone.

 

[kaaazuo]

The left is saying that Obama called the Benghazi attacks terrorist attacks in his September 12th speech ok I don't really believe that but for the sake of argument let's say he did then why for several day's after that did Jay Carney, David Axelrod, and of course Susan Rice claim it was a spontaneous response to the youtube video? Either the President knew it was a terrorist attack and told his people to go out and lie about it or he never called it a terrorist attack and they were just following his lead.

I've asked that very question several times now, only to have it ignored.

So ... is someone going to answer this?

24 hours is a short time to be sure about anything so far away in Libya especially when no one seems to be minding the store at the White House. Thanks to Obama's treacherous blame policy, the CIA wasn't sticking its neck out to cover the State Department in Libya unless told to do so. Obama was flying blind in the Rose Garden on Sept 12. Blaming the youtube was an expedient ploy to feed the American people a scapegoat in an attempt to bury the death of four Americans. Such insensitivity is a horrifying reflection of the lack of values of Obama and his people running the country.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Obama and his admin perpetuated a lie for weeks about the attack being a 'spontaneous mob reaction/protest to the film' (the admin later admitted there had been no protest) rather than it being a 'preplanned terrorist attack'. He knew this was a lie yet he, and his admin, continued to push it.

U.S.: Evidence doesn’t show planning in Libyan attack - The Washington Post

U.S. intelligence officials said Friday that no evidence has surfaced to indicate that the Sept. 11 assault on a U.S. diplomatic outpost in Libya was planned in advance, a conclusion that suggests the attack was spontaneous even if it involved militants with ties to al-Qaeda.
The description represents the latest shift in the U.S. government’s evolving account of an attack that claimed the life of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, as well as three other U.S. citizens, and has become entangled in the politics of the presidential campaign.
“There isn’t any intelligence that the attackers pre-planned their assault days or weeks in advance,” a U.S. intelligence official said. “The bulk of available information supports the early assessment that the attackers launched their assault opportunistically after they learned about the violence at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.”

The Libyan pres says otherwise.

Libyan President Mohammed Magarief said the controversial film that mocked Islam's Prophet Muhammad and ignited protests throughout the Muslim world had "nothing to do" with the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, and that he has "no doubt" it was an act of terrorism.

"It's a preplanned act of terrorism directed at American citizens," Magarief told NBC's Ann Curry in an interview that aired Wednesday. "Reaction should have been, if it was genuine, should have been six months earlier. So it was postponed until the 11th of September. They chose this date, 11th of September, to carry a certain message."

Magareif said the "high degree of accuracy" in which the attack was executed—with rocket-propelled grenades and mortar shells—is proof that the assault was preplanned, and not carried out by inexperienced protesters. He said he believes "al-Qaida elements" were involved but stopped short of directly accusing the terrorist group of planning it.

Libyan president: Benghazi attack was a

 

[Zoom-boing]

The left is saying that Obama called the Benghazi attacks terrorist attacks in his September 12th speech ok I don't really believe that but for the sake of argument let's say he did then why for several day's after that did Jay Carney, David Axelrod, and of course Susan Rice claim it was a spontaneous response to the youtube video? Either the President knew it was a terrorist attack and told his people to go out and lie about it or he never called it a terrorist attack and they were just following his lead.

I've asked that very question several times now, only to have it ignored.

So ... is someone going to answer this?

24 hours is a short time to be sure about anything so far away in Libya especially when no one seems to be minding the store at the White House. Thanks to Obama's treacherous blame policy, the CIA wasn't sticking its neck out to cover the State Department in Libya unless told to do so. Obama was flying blind in the Rose Garden on Sept 12. Blaming the youtube was an expedient ploy to feed the American people a scapegoat in an attempt to bury the death of four Americans. Such insensitivity is a horrifying reflection of the lack of values of Obama and his people running the country.

Was hoping NYC would answer this question, as he is continually claiming that Obama did call Benghazi an act of terror on 9/12/12.

 

[kaaazuo]

I've asked that very question several times now, only to have it ignored.

So ... is someone going to answer this?

24 hours is a short time to be sure about anything so far away in Libya especially when no one seems to be minding the store at the White House. Thanks to Obama's treacherous blame policy, the CIA wasn't sticking its neck out to cover the State Department in Libya unless told to do so. Obama was flying blind in the Rose Garden on Sept 12. Blaming the youtube was an expedient ploy to feed the American people a scapegoat in an attempt to bury the death of four Americans. Such insensitivity is a horrifying reflection of the lack of values of Obama and his people running the country.

Was hoping NYC would answer this question, as he is continually claiming that Obama did call Benghazi an act of terror on 9/12/12.

Obama would call it anything that works for him. He doesn't care. And if he doesn't care, then why should anyone care? That's the Obama Doctrine that NYC adheres to. It's a matter of faith.

 

[PredFan]

A fact check from CNN is like you telling the truth, doesn't happen. It was obamaturd that didn't call it an act of terror idiot.

I'm not an obama supporter by any means, but point in fact is that obama did call it an act of terror, not in so many words. The important point is that he lied about the blame for the attacks. Attacking our embassy because of a movie IS a terrorist attack.

Fact is that the attack was planned in advance before the movie was known and obama lied about that in order to maintain his BS story about him being strong on terror.

The important point is obama's lie, and arguing about what obama called it is falling into the left wing trap that disguises the lie.

He did not call Benghazi an act of terror, he was generalizing.

I think it's safe to assume however, that an attack on the consulate in response to a movie is an act of terror. My point is that if we let the left keep us focussed on what obama did or did not call it, we are falling into a trap. We need to stay on top of the fact that obama lied.

 

[sakinago]

Obama and his admin perpetuated a lie for weeks about the attack being a 'spontaneous mob reaction/protest to the film' (the admin later admitted there had been no protest) rather than it being a 'preplanned terrorist attack'. He knew this was a lie yet he, and his admin, continued to push it.

U.S.: Evidence doesn’t show planning in Libyan attack - The Washington Post

U.S. intelligence officials said Friday that no evidence has surfaced to indicate that the Sept. 11 assault on a U.S. diplomatic outpost in Libya was planned in advance, a conclusion that suggests the attack was spontaneous even if it involved militants with ties to al-Qaeda.
The description represents the latest shift in the U.S. government’s evolving account of an attack that claimed the life of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, as well as three other U.S. citizens, and has become entangled in the politics of the presidential campaign.
“There isn’t any intelligence that the attackers pre-planned their assault days or weeks in advance,” a U.S. intelligence official said. “The bulk of available information supports the early assessment that the attackers launched their assault opportunistically after they learned about the violence at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.”

The Libyan pres says otherwise.

Libyan President Mohammed Magarief said the controversial film that mocked Islam's Prophet Muhammad and ignited protests throughout the Muslim world had "nothing to do" with the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, and that he has "no doubt" it was an act of terrorism.

"It's a preplanned act of terrorism directed at American citizens," Magarief told NBC's Ann Curry in an interview that aired Wednesday. "Reaction should have been, if it was genuine, should have been six months earlier. So it was postponed until the 11th of September. They chose this date, 11th of September, to carry a certain message."

Magareif said the "high degree of accuracy" in which the attack was executed—with rocket-propelled grenades and mortar shells—is proof that the assault was preplanned, and not carried out by inexperienced protesters. He said he believes "al-Qaida elements" were involved but stopped short of directly accusing the terrorist group of planning it.

Libyan president: Benghazi attack was a

Thank you, meant to make a point on what the Lybian president said, but forgot. Which brings us to, anyone with half an objective brain said "a protest turned violent against America, over a youtube video, which no one saw...on 9/11...and Obama and Hilary are apologizing for the video?" How does that add up for anyone??? It didnt add up for the Libyian president. It is very hard to give the President the benefit of the doubt on this one, especially with the benghazi stat department reports coming out.

And then, the administration took it a step further and used tax payer money for an ad campaign apologizing for the video???

 

[PredFan]

What failure would he be covering up? Is it any big secret that there are organizations and groups and individuals who are Islamist extremists and anti-American throughout the Middle East, and even to an extent worldwide?

Who denies that?

Well, obama is known to crow about how his policies have led to the end of Al-Queda, and how his policies have put an end to the hatred and thus the terror attacks against us, but I doubt you'd listen. but that is beside the point. It's about the LIE. If it's as you say, and it's no big secret, then why lie?

So,

quote the President ever saying there is no more al qaeda, there is no more hatred, and there will never again be terror attacks against us.

Again you are being dishonest. Either that or you cannot read. I know you can read so you are playing games. The point, I remind you AGAIN is that obama lied about the motive for the attacks. Why did he do that eh? Can you attempt to answer that?

 

[PredFan]

The left is saying that Obama called the Benghazi attacks terrorist attacks in his September 12th speech ok I don't really believe that but for the sake of argument let's say he did then why for several day's after that did Jay Carney, David Axelrod, and of course Susan Rice claim it was a spontaneous response to the youtube video? Either the President knew it was a terrorist attack and told his people to go out and lie about it or he never called it a terrorist attack and they were just following his lead.

The problem is in the definition of a "terrorist attack". Some people, myself included, would concider a spontaneous riot resulting in the death of Americans a terrorist attack. Why wouldn't anyone call it that?

The important point is that if it's a spontaneous attack as a result of the movie, then obama can blame the movie and seemingly come off squeeky clean on this. If it was a planned attack, then it goes against his claim that he's tough on terror, that his foreign policy has made us safer, and that he dealt a crippling blow to al-queda. Thus he had to lie about it.

The lie is what's important.

 

[PredFan]

So,

quote the President ever saying there is no more al qaeda, there is no more hatred, and there will never again be terror attacks against us.

see: Obama's Arab Spring

I want quotes of the president sayng there is no more al qaeda, there is no more hatred, and there will never again be terrorist attacks against us.

That is what the world's dumbest poster claimed. If you want to agree with him, and be the other world's dumbest poster,

go ahead.

Garbage. Obama never said it and no one is claiming that he has.

Why did obama lie? Can you answer that?

 

[PredFan]

The left is saying that Obama called the Benghazi attacks terrorist attacks in his September 12th speech ok I don't really believe that but for the sake of argument let's say he did then why for several day's after that did Jay Carney, David Axelrod, and of course Susan Rice claim it was a spontaneous response to the youtube video? Either the President knew it was a terrorist attack and told his people to go out and lie about it or he never called it a terrorist attack and they were just following his lead.

I've asked that very question several times now, only to have it ignored.

So ... is someone going to answer this?

Apparently not.

 

[PredFan]

Obama and his admin perpetuated a lie for weeks about the attack being a 'spontaneous mob reaction/protest to the film' (the admin later admitted there had been no protest) rather than it being a 'preplanned terrorist attack'. He knew this was a lie yet he, and his admin, continued to push it.

U.S.: Evidence doesn’t show planning in Libyan attack - The Washington Post

U.S. intelligence officials said Friday that no evidence has surfaced to indicate that the Sept. 11 assault on a U.S. diplomatic outpost in Libya was planned in advance, a conclusion that suggests the attack was spontaneous even if it involved militants with ties to al-Qaeda.
The description represents the latest shift in the U.S. government’s evolving account of an attack that claimed the life of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, as well as three other U.S. citizens, and has become entangled in the politics of the presidential campaign.
“There isn’t any intelligence that the attackers pre-planned their assault days or weeks in advance,” a U.S. intelligence official said. “The bulk of available information supports the early assessment that the attackers launched their assault opportunistically after they learned about the violence at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.”

Okay good, so Al-queda didnt come out and say, yes this attack was pre-planned, but it was just coincidence that it happened on 9/11, and that the oppurtunistic terrorist just happened to know where the safe-house for the ambassador was. How does that math add up for anyone.

It doesn't. It's simply left wing spin.

 

[kaaazuo]

I'm not an obama supporter by any means, but point in fact is that obama did call it an act of terror, not in so many words. The important point is that he lied about the blame for the attacks. Attacking our embassy because of a movie IS a terrorist attack.

Fact is that the attack was planned in advance before the movie was known and obama lied about that in order to maintain his BS story about him being strong on terror.

The important point is obama's lie, and arguing about what obama called it is falling into the left wing trap that disguises the lie.

He did not call Benghazi an act of terror, he was generalizing.

I think it's safe to assume however, that an attack on the consulate in response to a movie is an act of terror. My point is that if we let the left keep us focussed on what obama did or did not call it, we are falling into a trap. We need to stay on top of the fact that obama lied.

We need to stay on top of the fact that four Americans sent to Libya in harm's way by Obama died. Any decent Commander-in-Chief would take responsibility and resign. Can you imagine Obama announcing to the nation that he is withdrawing from the November election? Or would he behave shamelessly like Clinton, hang on and insist that "he did not have sex with that woman"?

 

[PredFan]

He did not call Benghazi an act of terror, he was generalizing.

I think it's safe to assume however, that an attack on the consulate in response to a movie is an act of terror. My point is that if we let the left keep us focussed on what obama did or did not call it, we are falling into a trap. We need to stay on top of the fact that obama lied.

We need to stay on top of the fact that four Americans sent to Libya in harm's way by Obama died. Any decent Commander-in-Chief would take responsibility and resign. Can you imagine Obama announcing to the nation that he is withdrawing from the November election? Or would he behave shamelessly like Clinton, hang on and insist that "he did not have sex with that woman"?

I think we all know the answer to that question.

 

[kaaazuo]

I think it's safe to assume however, that an attack on the consulate in response to a movie is an act of terror. My point is that if we let the left keep us focussed on what obama did or did not call it, we are falling into a trap. We need to stay on top of the fact that obama lied.

We need to stay on top of the fact that four Americans sent to Libya in harm's way by Obama died. Any decent Commander-in-Chief would take responsibility and resign. Can you imagine Obama announcing to the nation that he is withdrawing from the November election? Or would he behave shamelessly like Clinton, hang on and insist that "he did not have sex with that woman"?

I think we all know the answer to that question.

The answer I do not know is to the question "How on earth did he get into the White House?" The buck stops with the people who put him there and they are responsible for the betrayal of Americans in Libya.