"It Is No Dishonor To Be In A Minority In The Cause Of Liberty & Virtue."- Sam Adams

Sam Adams was also the guy that drew up the original American version of the "Riot Act " (" to declare any group of twelve or more people to be unlawfully assembled, and thus have to disperse or face punitive action.") --
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and Adams also drew up a resolution suspending habeas corpus in order to permit government authorities to keep people in jail without trial.

He was a great Founder at the start of our Independence.

Later...eh, not so much.

He did make a good beer though.
 
Wonderful and incredibly wise quote from Sam Adams. Yes,it is true the Socialists/Progressives and Neocons are the current majority and we are the minority,but that doesn't mean we should give up on fighting for Freedom & Liberty. So always remember that fantastic quote from Sam Adams when you are being mocked & ridiculed by the Socialists/Progressives & Neocons. Because we have honor while they do not. So hang in there all you defenders of Freedom & Liberty. You gotta keep on fighting the good fight. Never give up. Good luck and God Bless. :)

"Every stink that fights the ventilator thinks it's Don Quixote"
A more appropriate quote for Paul-bots.
 
No they weren't. They were flaming liberals

Tell us what Libertarians have ever done in this country to promote either Liberty or Freedom?

I just answered you. Our Founding Fathers were not Big Government Socialists/Progressives. They were the opposite,more closely aligned with Conservative/Libertarian principles. They would be appalled at what you and the Neocons have done to our nation. But hey,if you want to keep believing your fellow Big Government Socialists/Progressives stand for Freedom & Liberty,than so be it. I'm certainly not gonna change your mind on this Message Board. But in my opinion you can keep your Patriot Act,NDAA,TSA,and the rest. I don't see any Freedom & Liberty there.

You have failed to point out a single thing that Libertarians have done for either Liberty or Freedom.

They founded our Nation. I think that's a pretty big thing no?
 
I just answered you. Our Founding Fathers were not Big Government Socialists/Progressives. They were the opposite,more closely aligned with Conservative/Libertarian principles. They would be appalled at what you and the Neocons have done to our nation. But hey,if you want to keep believing your fellow Big Government Socialists/Progressives stand for Freedom & Liberty,than so be it. I'm certainly not gonna change your mind on this Message Board. But in my opinion you can keep your Patriot Act,NDAA,TSA,and the rest. I don't see any Freedom & Liberty there.

You have failed to point out a single thing that Libertarians have done for either Liberty or Freedom.

They founded our Nation. I think that's a pretty big thing no?

Liberals founded this nation

And we are still proud of it
 
You have failed to point out a single thing that Libertarians have done for either Liberty or Freedom.

They founded our Nation. I think that's a pretty big thing no?

Liberals founded this nation

And we are still proud of it

No,Socialists/Progressives like you did not found this Nation. And neither did the Neocons. That's just a fantasy of yours. Our Founding Fathers were actually true Conservative Constitutionalist Libertarians. They really would be appalled at your Patriot Act and NDAA. You Socialists/Progressives and Neocons do not fight for individual Freedom & Liberty. You actually fight for the exact opposite. You just don't want to realize that. But that's ok,i know ignorance is bliss.
 
They founded our Nation. I think that's a pretty big thing no?

Liberals founded this nation

And we are still proud of it

No,Socialists/Progressives like you did not found this Nation. And neither did the Neocons. That's just a fantasy of yours. Our Founding Fathers were actually true Conservative Constitutionalist Libertarians. They really would be appalled at your Patriot Act and NDAA. You Socialists/Progressives and Neocons do not fight for individual Freedom & Liberty. You actually fight for the exact opposite. You just don't want to realize that. But that's ok,i know ignorance is bliss.

There was no more liberal concept of the age than.....All men are created equal

We are still damn proud of that one
 
"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government.
I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality." - George Washington
 
Liberals founded this nation

And we are still proud of it

No,Socialists/Progressives like you did not found this Nation. And neither did the Neocons. That's just a fantasy of yours. Our Founding Fathers were actually true Conservative Constitutionalist Libertarians. They really would be appalled at your Patriot Act and NDAA. You Socialists/Progressives and Neocons do not fight for individual Freedom & Liberty. You actually fight for the exact opposite. You just don't want to realize that. But that's ok,i know ignorance is bliss.

There was no more liberal concept of the age than.....All men are created equal

We are still damn proud of that one

Big Government Globalism is all you Socialists/Progressives & Neocons are about. Like i said,you can have your Patriot Act,NDAA,TSA,and the rest. But don't try claiming your brethren founded this Nation. Because that just isn't true. You guys are just part of the problem,not the solution.
 
This may be blasphemy in some circles but I do not hold our founders in particularly high regard when it comes to questions of governance in the 21st century. The agrarian, slave owning country they founded was no oasis of freedom. I do not consider any of them to be a good example of any currently recognizable political ideology.
 
This may be blasphemy in some circles but I do not hold our founders in particularly high regard when it comes to questions of governance in the 21st century. The agrarian, slave owning country they founded was no oasis of freedom. I do not consider any of them to be a good example of any currently recognizable political ideology.

You would have to be an idiot to rely on the judgement of leaders from 235 years ago to run a modern society. Only a fool doesn't recognize that the needs of a society evolve
 
Liberals founded this nation

And we are still proud of it

No,Socialists/Progressives like you did not found this Nation. And neither did the Neocons. That's just a fantasy of yours. Our Founding Fathers were actually true Conservative Constitutionalist Libertarians. They really would be appalled at your Patriot Act and NDAA. You Socialists/Progressives and Neocons do not fight for individual Freedom & Liberty. You actually fight for the exact opposite. You just don't want to realize that. But that's ok,i know ignorance is bliss.

There was no more liberal concept of the age than.....All men are created equal

We are still damn proud of that one
Yep.
 
Sorry,but i don't see you Socialists/Progressives & Neocons fighting for Freedom & Liberty. I only see the exact opposite. But you are the majority and we are the minority. That is fact. But hopefully it wont always be fact.

This is the ignorance of the Constitution and its case law typical of Ron Paul and his supporters.
 

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