It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?

The US system is poorly rated compared to other industrial countries. How does the quality of the U.S. healthcare system compare to other countries? - Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker We pay double and get so much less. Our system of tying it to work makes if tougher to change jobs and start a new business. Get caught waiting to be covered and your world will get blown up financially with an accident or illness. Over half American bankruptcies are tied to health coverage.

Oooh, socialists think our system sucks because it's not socialist enough. Let me get RIGHT on giving a shit about that.

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Nope, just can't manage to.

At some point, you really need to get it through your rock skull that asserting something is true doesn't make it true, and the fact that it's YOU asserting it actually makes people LESS likely to believe it.

Once you've figured that out, we can start to work on how to provide evidence, which will clearly be advanced tutoring in your case.
 
But diapers cost $4000 per year.

Actually, they can. Twinkle Tush Ella costs $490 a piece.

Most Expensive Baby Diapers in the World - Top Ten List
rich people spend their money on the craziest things,,,,

cloth diapers are less than 2 dollars a piece and all you need is at most 50 of them,,,
Plus a washer and a dryer...and a hazardous waste disposal permit

Actually, the contents can be dumped in the toilet and flushed, just as YOUR waste products are. And, if necessary, the diapers can be handwashed in a sink, although it's certainly preferable if you can use a machine.


you would think the lefty environmentalist would be against disposable diapers and favor cloth,,,


The Dangers of Disposable Diapers

I believe serious environmentalist wackos ARE. The rank-and-file useful idiots? That would require more independent thought and logic than they can manage.
 
But diapers cost $4000 per year.

Actually, they can. Twinkle Tush Ella costs $490 a piece.

Most Expensive Baby Diapers in the World - Top Ten List
rich people spend their money on the craziest things,,,,

cloth diapers are less than 2 dollars a piece and all you need is at most 50 of them,,,
Plus a washer and a dryer...and a hazardous waste disposal permit

Actually, the contents can be dumped in the toilet and flushed, just as YOUR waste products are. And, if necessary, the diapers can be handwashed in a sink, although it's certainly preferable if you can use a machine.


you would think the lefty environmentalist would be against disposable diapers and favor cloth,,,


The Dangers of Disposable Diapers


Here's how that works.

Lefties are for what is convenient for them while advocating whatever is inconvenient but virtue-signaling worthy for other. This is how Leonardo and Gore fly around on private jets while hectoring the rest of us to take un-airconditioned busses.
 
Having a child at the expense of others (who often can't afford to have as many children as they would like to do excessive taxes) is not a contribution to society. Children raised in welfare households are far less likely to grow up into successful, independent, productive adults.
Sad reflection of what a society really is


Yes. It is. And doubling down on the problem by paying unwed mothers to have children isn't going to solve it. We need to reform our public policy to free families to be able to raise their children. As it stands, responsible people are having less children due to financial concerns in order to subsidize irresponsible ones. And people wonder why are culture is on the decline.
It goes beyond births to all medical procedures

Getting sick or injured should not destroy your life. Most modern societies understand this


You said having a child - not having a catastrophic birth. If we had proper and affordable catastrophic health insurance options instead of the bloated Obabblecare monstrosity which basically funnels money into insurance company bureaucracies, the rare emergency birth that could bankrupt a family would be covered.
Medicare for all


IOW, favoritism and special services for the well-connected...and long waiting lists and death panels for the rest of us.

No thank you. I don't care to live in a Stalinesque system.
 
You know, my first son was born in a military hospital in Millington TN. Total cost to me and her for that first child was 25 bucks, because they only charged me for the meals that she ate while she was there.

Second kid? CHAMPUS took care of the hospital bill, because she was living with her mother when the second kid was born.
 
What do people do if they haven't got enough money ?

Any number of things. Believe it or not, there are ways to deal with poverty voluntarily. We don't need to submit to almighty government to make it happen. And even if you do want to use government to help the poor, that doesn't requires socializing an entire industry.
 
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.

It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?

That may be all the parents pay, but that is not the actual cost to have a baby.

The real costs are passed on to all the citizens who didn’t have the baby to pay for them through Government healthcare.

I’d prefer to pay the $12K for my own kids birth and $0 for everyone else’s, thank you very much.
 
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.

It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?

Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.

Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
well I guess your moving to finland,,,dont let the door hit you where the good lord split you

These lefties have GOT to stop assuming that because a website has "news" in its title, that means it's an actual news source.
However, it is. There are plenty of sites that describe the same stories. The evidence is clear. All other industrial countries have universal healthcare. The medical results are far above ours.

Wow, there are lots of leftist websites who parrot the same line. That MUST make it true.

Would you like to know how many websites I can find that all swear people are kidnapped by aliens and anally probed for unknown reasons?

How about instead of babbling to me about how "lots of people makes it true", you attempt to address and substantiate the actual points of contention?
 
We only have the best healthcare in the world if you're rich. The average person in a place like Finland has much better healthcare options. That's why public approval of their healthcare system is over 90%.

It costs less than $60 to have a baby in Finland. How?

Finland's healthcare system has helped give it the lowest maternal death rate in the world -- and it's available to everyone for next to nothing.

Dr. Aydin Tekay is the chief physician at a labor ward in Finland where every mother there gets a private room and even the option of a water birth. The cost? Less than $100 euros, and almost 50 percent of which they'll get back as reimbursement. That means it costs less than $60 to have a baby, compared with the U.S. where the average natural birth costs over $12,000 and insurance doesn't cover all of it.
The maternal death rate in the U.S. has nearly doubled over the last three decades; in Finland they've cut it in half.
well I guess your moving to finland,,,dont let the door hit you where the good lord split you

These lefties have GOT to stop assuming that because a website has "news" in its title, that means it's an actual news source.
However, it is. There are plenty of sites that describe the same stories. The evidence is clear. All other industrial countries have universal healthcare. The medical results are far above ours.


no the evidence is not clear in that direction,,,,

His idea of "evidence" is "well, lots of people repeat this, so that must make it true."
 

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