It Came from Wasilla

[Modbert]

Stereotype much?

Not at all, any group that says one thing and does another is hypocritical. Anybody who believes that Abortion is wrong but the Death Penalty is okay is a hypocrite.

If you refer to my comments about the Pro-Life movement as stereotyping, well then you obviously can't see the irony in the whole "Life is valuable, but lets kill people who disagree with us!" stance. While not all these Pro-Lifers do kill these doctors, a good number support it. The only reason why some don't voice these opinions is because it would make their cause look bad. I'm not equating those people with the entire cause but that part of the cause exists whether they like to admit it or not.

 

[CrimsonWhite]

Stereotype much?

Not at all, any group that says one thing and does another is hypocritical. Anybody who believes that Abortion is wrong but the Death Penalty is okay is a hypocrite.

If you refer to my comments about the Pro-Life movement as stereotyping, well then you obviously can't see the irony in the whole "Life is valuable, but lets kill people who disagree with us!" stance. While not all these Pro-Lifers do kill these doctors, a good number support it. The only reason why some don't voice these opinions is because it would make their cause look bad. I'm not equating those people with the entire cause but that part of the cause exists whether they like to admit it or not.

Oh, you mean like a group that says the death penalty is wrong, but late term aborton is okay.

A good number do not support. Not every Jesus freak with a sign is a potential clinic bomber. As stated before, sterotype much? Yes you do.

 

[Modbert]

Oh, you mean like a group that says the death penalty is wrong, but late term aborton is okay.

A good number do not support. Not every Jesus freak with a sign is a potential clinic bomber. As stated before, sterotype much? Yes you do.

Again, I said a good number do not support such horrible crimes like bombing clinics. Do note you're the one who used the term "Jesus Freak", not me. It's sad that the radicals of Christianity toss aside Jesus's teachings for their own twisted ones by killing others. I'm merely stating that this fringe group exists as a part of this larger group whether the Pro-Life movement likes it or not. It's like the KKK supporting the McCain campaign in the 2008 Election. Do you think the Republicans want the KKK's endorsement? No, of course not because the majority would be turned off by it but a small minority wouldn't mind it or even support it.

Late-term abortion and Abortion are two entirely separate debates, you're being dishonest by trying to turn them into one.

For the record, I support Abortion and the Death Penalty.

 

[CrimsonWhite]

Oh, you mean like a group that says the death penalty is wrong, but late term aborton is okay.

A good number do not support. Not every Jesus freak with a sign is a potential clinic bomber. As stated before, sterotype much? Yes you do.

Again, I said a good number do not support such horrible crimes like bombing clinics. Do note you're the one who used the term "Jesus Freak", not me. It's sad that the radicals of Christianity toss aside Jesus's teachings for their own twisted ones by killing others. I'm merely stating that this fringe group exists as a part of this larger group whether the Pro-Life movement likes it or not. It's like the KKK supporting the McCain campaign in the 2008 Election. Do you think the Republicans want the KKK's endorsement? No, of course not because the majority would be turned off by it but a small minority wouldn't mind it or even support it.

Late-term abortion and Abortion are two entirely separate debates, you're being dishonest by trying to turn them into one.

For the record, I support Abortion and the Death Penalty. Late-term Abortions I'm iffy about, both as knowledge on the subject and the majority reasons of the late-term Abortions.

Just getting you crank up a bit. Welcome back.

 

[Modbert]

Just getting you crank up a bit. Welcome back.

Thanks, I get it.

I actually went back and slightly fixed my original comment to better represent my position on the topic. The Abortion topic is usually one I stay away from because to quote an old saying "It will not end well."

 

[garyd]

Sorry no hypocrisy is present. To approve of the death penalty is no more at odds with an anti abortion stance than disapproval of the death penalty is at odds with and pro-abortion stance.

I'm quite willing that every fetus get a day in court before it can be aborted how about you?

 

[Modbert]

Sorry no hypocrisy is present. To approve of the death penalty is no more at odds with an anti abortion stance than disapproval of the death penalty is at odds with and pro-abortion stance.

I'm quite willing that every fetus get a day in court before it can be aborted how about you?

To say life is too valuable to be ended AND then say it's not valuable enough to be saved from death for a crime is hypocrisy.

Besides Gary, do you think Jesus would want the Death Penalty?

 

[DiveCon]

Sorry no hypocrisy is present. To approve of the death penalty is no more at odds with an anti abortion stance than disapproval of the death penalty is at odds with and pro-abortion stance.

I'm quite willing that every fetus get a day in court before it can be aborted how about you?

To say life is too valuable to be ended AND then say it's not valuable enough to be saved from death for a crime is hypocrisy.

Besides Gary, do you think Jesus would want the Death Penalty?

innocent life vs guilty life
there is a difference

 

[Modbert]

innocent life vs guilty life
there is a difference

Can you sit there and tell me honestly that everybody who's been convicted of the Death Penalty was guilty or even had a fair trial?

There isn't much of a difference from playing God in one arena to another.

The system isn't perfect by any means, but I believe it is still needed for the most heinous of crimes.

 

[Modbert]

For example: The Associated Press: Plea deal for Okla. child rapist prompts outrage

People like this should be killed. He only has a year in prison but it should only take ten minutes for someone in whichever prison he goes to deliver real justice.

 

[DiveCon]

innocent life vs guilty life
there is a difference

Can you sit there and tell me honestly that everybody who's been convicted of the Death Penalty was guilty or even had a fair trial?

There isn't much of a difference from playing God in one arena to another.

The system isn't perfect by any means, but I believe it is still needed for the most heinous of crimes.

can you honestly actually MAKE that comparison?
tell me how many unborn were guilty

 

[Modbert]

can you honestly actually MAKE that comparison?
tell me how many unborn were guilty

This is why I don't debate Abortion DiveCon. It doesn't end well and it ends up going off-topic usually. We're just going to have to agree to disagree on whether one is a hypocrite if they support the Death Penalty and don't support Abortion.

To answer your final question, nobody can make that comparison or answer such questions while being 110% sure except God. Since I am not God, I cannot give you that answer. That is being honest and truthful, I'm not going to give you any answers that I myself am not 110% sure about.

 

[editec]

Nobody has to hang Palin.

Just give her enough airtime and she'll hang herself.

 

[strollingbones]

For example: The Associated Press: Plea deal for Okla. child rapist prompts outrage

People like this should be killed. He only has a year in prison but it should only take ten minutes for someone in whichever prison he goes to deliver real justice.

i read the story...something aint right....a 4 yr old girl raped and sodomized (as in anal sex) would have major physical trauma....so is the sodomy oral sex? but they found evidence of abuse....hell it should have stood out with blood etc...but it sure aint right for the guy to get a year....sick shit this is why i dont agree with that thread on child porno.....you dont stop these fuckers by letting them have one damned inch...and dont give them an inch for that.."i was molested as a child" bullshit...that is a fucking insult to ever person who has been molested as a child yet DOES NOT MOLEST, does not pass on the horror...there are a lot of those out there too....dont let these pos' use that as an excuse...for their perversions.

 

[PuckeredPete]

What the hell is non-liberal about supporting the death penalty? The liberals believe in the death penalty for children, for the old and infirm, for anyone who is mentally ill or otherwise "deficient". Hell, you guys invented the death penalty.

Wow...what a pack of lies.

Find me a liberal who is pro-life.

I guess I was too late for your pwning.

 

[midcan5]

Looks like the same old crap you always post that doesn't support independent anything. Just more leftwingnut rhetoric dogging out some Republican. What a shock.

Btw ... that moron you voted for, ain't nothing to brag about when it comes to shortage of qualification and pride in being a dummy.

I'll make a bet you didn't even read it. No need to mention Obama qualifications they are obvious.

 

[DiveCon]

Looks like the same old crap you always post that doesn't support independent anything. Just more leftwingnut rhetoric dogging out some Republican. What a shock.

Btw ... that moron you voted for, ain't nothing to brag about when it comes to shortage of qualification and pride in being a dummy.

I'll make a bet you didn't even read it. No need to mention Obama qualifications they are obvious.

a community organizer?
an incomplete term in the IL state senate?
an incomplete term in the US Senate?


yeah sure

 

[Paul Itical]

Urkle Hussein Obama is a fucking failure..let's talk about that.