It Came from Wasilla

Hey, that was your party, not mine. But go ahead and stereotype all you want if it makes you feel better.

What don't you understand about the words Independent Liberal? Is it the word Independent that confuses the hell out of you?

Oh, I'm not stereotyping by any means by the way. As you said, if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, well...

You call yourself an independent liberal. That is a contradiction in terms. Since most liberals that hold office are Democrats, the majority of the individuals that you would vote for, would have to be Democrats. That makes you a defacto supporter of the Democratic Party.

So like I said, if it quacks like a duck.
 
The lefts intentions from the day Palin gave her VP candidacy acceptance speech was to destroy her by any means necessary. Mission accomplished, i wish conservatives would just say fuck it and start using the same tactics. How much quicker would the left have destroyed Palin if she had a known prostitute working from her house like say, Barney Frank ? ....... :eusa_whistle:

OMG a known prostitute :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

There's that "we're a higher moral people" Keep doing it

That whizzzing sound was the point going right over your head. How about answering the question instead of doing the typical liberal thing ?......:eusa_whistle:
 
You are right. Maybe we should try special interest groups like the Black Panthers or we could try voter fraud. Wait, nevermind, we already have a party that utilizes those tools. Besides, don't you, as a Democrat, feel a bit hypocritical about throwng a jab at the GOP for using scare tactics. After all, it was the Democrats that fne tuned that tactic.

Goldwater called for the destruction of many things and thus helped create one of the most lopsided losses in history. It is interesting that the republican party at that time was split between the liberal NE and the right wing nuts in the west and south. Goldwater's own words made him the aggressor and the potential destroyer of the social safety net. He didn't have hypnotized tools like you and other wingnuts. That change is impressive, it demonstrates the power of rhetoric on the impressionable right wing. Repeat a lie often enough and out comes CrimsonWhite. Conservative think tanks have done a great job brain washing so many people. An interesting phenomenon and while easy to view, hard to understand its power on you tools. You are like clones.

United States presidential election, 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Think tanks - SourceWatch

Conservatism Is Dead
The Political Scene: The Fall of Conservatism: Reporting & Essays: The New Yorker


I wonder if anyone read the piece it was interesting with lots of sources.
 
You call yourself an independent liberal. That is a contradiction in terms. Since most liberals that hold office are Democrats, the majority of the individuals that you would vote for, would have to be Democrats. That makes you a defacto supporter of the Democratic Party.

So like I said, if it quacks like a duck.

Since the few Liberals that hold office would be in the Democratic party you mean.

I'm not voting in 50 states. I vote for whatever's on my ballot. In fact, I would of voted for the Republican who was running for mayor in my city this past fall if I had the opportunity. So stop acting like you know me Crimson because you don't.

Furthermore, if it comes to the point where it's a Moderate Left candidate over a Conservative candidate? Then yeah, I'm voting for the Democrat. I vote for the candidate who I feel is more closely aligned with my beliefs and whether they be best for my city, state, country, etc. I don't vote by party like some people on this board.

Another example, I would of perhaps voted for John McCain in 2000 if he had run against Al Gore.
 
You call yourself an independent liberal. That is a contradiction in terms. Since most liberals that hold office are Democrats, the majority of the individuals that you would vote for, would have to be Democrats. That makes you a defacto supporter of the Democratic Party.

So like I said, if it quacks like a duck.

Since the few Liberals that hold office would be in the Democratic party you mean.

I'm not voting in 50 states. I vote for whatever's on my ballot. In fact, I would of voted for the Republican who was running for mayor in my city this past fall if I had the opportunity. So stop acting like you know me Crimson because you don't.

Furthermore, if it comes to the point where it's a Moderate Left candidate over a Conservative candidate? Then yeah, I'm voting for the Democrat. I vote for the candidate who I feel is more closely aligned with my beliefs and whether they be best for my city, state, country, etc. I don't vote by party like some people on this board.

Another example, I would of perhaps voted for John McCain in 2000 if he had run against Al Gore.

Also you have a sig quoting a Republican
 
I hope this wasn't posted, but it is excellent in depth journalism of the type you rarely see today. Buy the magazine too, support independent thought.

'It Came from Wasilla' By Todd S. Purdum

"...What does it say about the nature of modern American politics that a public official who often seems proud of what she does not know is not only accepted but applauded? What does her prominence say about the importance of having (or lacking) a record of achievement in public life? Why did so many skilled veterans of the Republican Party—long regarded as the more adroit team in presidential politics—keep loyally working for her election even after they privately realized she was casual about the truth and totally unfit for the vice-presidency? Perhaps most painful, how could John McCain, one of the cagiest survivors in contemporary politics—with a fine appreciation of life’s injustices and absurdities, a love for the sweep of history, and an overdeveloped sense of his own integrity and honor—ever have picked a person whose utter shortage of qualification for her proposed job all but disqualified him for his?"

Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com

read here.
Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com

""Andrew, I watch you at these debates with no notes, no papers, and yet when asked questions, you spout off facts, figures, and policies, and I’m amazed. But then I look out into the audience and I ask myself, Does any of this really matter?"" Sarah Palin

Looks like the same old crap you always post that doesn't support independent anything. Just more leftwingnut rhetoric dogging out some Republican. What a shock.:rolleyes:

Btw ... that moron you voted for, ain't nothing to brag about when it comes to shortage of qualification and pride in being a dummy.
 
You call yourself an independent liberal. That is a contradiction in terms. Since most liberals that hold office are Democrats, the majority of the individuals that you would vote for, would have to be Democrats. That makes you a defacto supporter of the Democratic Party.

So like I said, if it quacks like a duck.

Since the few Liberals that hold office would be in the Democratic party you mean.

I'm not voting in 50 states. I vote for whatever's on my ballot. In fact, I would of voted for the Republican who was running for mayor in my city this past fall if I had the opportunity. So stop acting like you know me Crimson because you don't.

Furthermore, if it comes to the point where it's a Moderate Left candidate over a Conservative candidate? Then yeah, I'm voting for the Democrat. I vote for the candidate who I feel is more closely aligned with my beliefs and whether they be best for my city, state, country, etc. I don't vote by party like some people on this board.

Another example, I would of perhaps voted for John McCain in 2000 if he had run against Al Gore.

So, essentially, you are willing to vote against your political ideology? Voting for McCain over Gore would be an example of that.
 
You call yourself an independent liberal. That is a contradiction in terms. Since most liberals that hold office are Democrats, the majority of the individuals that you would vote for, would have to be Democrats. That makes you a defacto supporter of the Democratic Party.

So like I said, if it quacks like a duck.

Since the few Liberals that hold office would be in the Democratic party you mean.

I'm not voting in 50 states. I vote for whatever's on my ballot. In fact, I would of voted for the Republican who was running for mayor in my city this past fall if I had the opportunity. So stop acting like you know me Crimson because you don't.

Furthermore, if it comes to the point where it's a Moderate Left candidate over a Conservative candidate? Then yeah, I'm voting for the Democrat. I vote for the candidate who I feel is more closely aligned with my beliefs and whether they be best for my city, state, country, etc. I don't vote by party like some people on this board.

Another example, I would of perhaps voted for John McCain in 2000 if he had run against Al Gore.

Also you have a sig quoting a Republican

I have a sig that quotes John Wayne. That doesn't make me a cowboy.
 
So, essentially, you are willing to vote against your political ideology? Voting for McCain over Gore would be an example of that.

I'm a Liberal but I'm not on the Socialist line.

For example:

I'm for the Death Penalty in certain cases.

I support the right to bear arms (but agree there needs to be reasonable gun control).

However, I'm not going to support the current Republican Party's social policies such as the idea that Abortion should be banned in all cases, being against Gay Marriage, for The War on Drugs, little to no Gun control, against the reformation of the Health Care system, for Creationism and Prayer in schools,etc.

Never mind the wasteful overspending that the last two-term Republicans have done, which should put any real Fiscal Conservative into shock and awe.
 
What? Another hit piece from Mr. Dee Dee Myers? Shocking I tell you, shocking!

Look, I don't care for Sarah Palin, in fact I hope she simply retires, never to be heard from again, forever enjoying the blessings of family. That being said...

I fear that the obsession exhibited by the left/Democrats for Mrs. Palin borders on the unhealthy. It's as though all the energy they dedicated to their Bush Derangement Syndrome is now being directed at a person who will be, in my opinion, politically inconsequential in the not too distant future.

It's as if they are not happy unless they have a conservative/Republican to hate.

Give me a break, that works on both sides of the aisle. The Republicans HATE the Clintons, they spent 50 million dollars to find out he got a blow job. And we go after Palin and Bush because both are absolute morons and have no business in charge of anything.

Except Billy was actually impeached. He actually did something wrong, unless purjuring oneself is ok with libs... nevermind. We know the answer to that.
 
I have a sig that quotes John Wayne. That doesn't make me a cowboy.

He was an Conservative actor.

Wayne also had a knack for saying such "interesting" statements though. :eusa_whistle:

On the topic of African American civil rights:

I believe in white supremacy until blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people.... The academic community has developed certain tests that determine whether the blacks are sufficiently equipped scholastically....I don't feel guilty about the fact that five or ten generations ago these people were slaves. Now I'm not condoning slavery. It's just a fact of life, like the kid who gets infantile paralysis and can't play football like the rest of us.[38]

A damn great actor though, that's for sure. It's always a toss-up between him and Clint Eastwood for who's western movies I like most.
 
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I hope this wasn't posted, but it is excellent in depth journalism of the type you rarely see today. Buy the magazine too, support independent thought.

'It Came from Wasilla' By Todd S. Purdum

"...What does it say about the nature of modern American politics that a public official who often seems proud of what she does not know is not only accepted but applauded? What does her prominence say about the importance of having (or lacking) a record of achievement in public life? Why did so many skilled veterans of the Republican Party—long regarded as the more adroit team in presidential politics—keep loyally working for her election even after they privately realized she was casual about the truth and totally unfit for the vice-presidency? Perhaps most painful, how could John McCain, one of the cagiest survivors in contemporary politics—with a fine appreciation of life’s injustices and absurdities, a love for the sweep of history, and an overdeveloped sense of his own integrity and honor—ever have picked a person whose utter shortage of qualification for her proposed job all but disqualified him for his?"

Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com

read here.
Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com

""Andrew, I watch you at these debates with no notes, no papers, and yet when asked questions, you spout off facts, figures, and policies, and I’m amazed. But then I look out into the audience and I ask myself, Does any of this really matter?"" Sarah Palin

"excellent in-depth journalism". :lol:

You type that with a straight face? :))
 
Our Nations is Failing. Obama keeps Globe Trotting.

& all the liberals and the press can do is to harp on about Palin.

No wonder a man who never made a Executive Decision in his life was elected president!
 
So, essentially, you are willing to vote against your political ideology? Voting for McCain over Gore would be an example of that.

I'm a Liberal but I'm not on the Socialist line.

For example:

I'm for the Death Penalty in certain cases.

I support the right to bear arms (but agree there needs to be reasonable gun control).

However, I'm not going to support the current Republican Party's social policies such as the idea that Abortion should be banned in all cases, being against Gay Marriage, for The War on Drugs, little to no Gun control, against the reformation of the Health Care system, for Creationism and Prayer in schools,etc.

Never mind the wasteful overspending that the last two-term Republicans have done, which should put any real Fiscal Conservative into shock and awe.

What the hell is non-liberal about supporting the death penalty? The liberals believe in the death penalty for children, for the old and infirm, for anyone who is mentally ill or otherwise "deficient". Hell, you guys invented the death penalty.
 
I hope this wasn't posted, but it is excellent in depth journalism of the type you rarely see today. Buy the magazine too, support independent thought.

'It Came from Wasilla' By Todd S. Purdum

"...What does it say about the nature of modern American politics that a public official who often seems proud of what she does not know is not only accepted but applauded? What does her prominence say about the importance of having (or lacking) a record of achievement in public life? Why did so many skilled veterans of the Republican Party—long regarded as the more adroit team in presidential politics—keep loyally working for her election even after they privately realized she was casual about the truth and totally unfit for the vice-presidency? Perhaps most painful, how could John McCain, one of the cagiest survivors in contemporary politics—with a fine appreciation of life’s injustices and absurdities, a love for the sweep of history, and an overdeveloped sense of his own integrity and honor—ever have picked a person whose utter shortage of qualification for her proposed job all but disqualified him for his?"

Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com

read here.
Todd S. Purdum on Sarah Palin | vanityfair.com

""Andrew, I watch you at these debates with no notes, no papers, and yet when asked questions, you spout off facts, figures, and policies, and I’m amazed. But then I look out into the audience and I ask myself, Does any of this really matter?"" Sarah Palin

"excellent in-depth journalism". :lol:

You type that with a straight face? :))

How dare you impugn midcan's seriousity.

I have it on good authority a smile has never creased those pasty, tightly-stretched cheeks.
 
So, essentially, you are willing to vote against your political ideology? Voting for McCain over Gore would be an example of that.

I'm a Liberal but I'm not on the Socialist line.

For example:

I'm for the Death Penalty in certain cases.

I support the right to bear arms (but agree there needs to be reasonable gun control).

However, I'm not going to support the current Republican Party's social policies such as the idea that Abortion should be banned in all cases, being against Gay Marriage, for The War on Drugs, little to no Gun control, against the reformation of the Health Care system, for Creationism and Prayer in schools,etc.

Never mind the wasteful overspending that the last two-term Republicans have done, which should put any real Fiscal Conservative into shock and awe.

What the hell is non-liberal about supporting the death penalty? The liberals believe in the death penalty for children, for the old and infirm, for anyone who is mentally ill or otherwise "deficient". Hell, you guys invented the death penalty.

Shocking another right wing fascist complete BS spin from you especially since your nut job party wants to privatize SS and make old people homeless. And then I like the spin of being pro-choice as being for the death penalty, so ur the nut job who calls us Baby Killers. And the mentally ill, are you fucking kidding me? Republicans hate the social programs that Dems put into place to help the mentally ill. My Great Grandmother worked in the White House under Kennedy on the 1st ever Committee for the education of the Mentally Retarded and she, like the other 24 members, and Kennedy are DEMOCRATS. So try your bullshit somewhere else.

Alliebaba = Full of shit. Look it up if you don't believe me, her name is Irene Asbury and she is the woman on the right standing up in a room with Kennedy and the other 24 members
 
I'm a Liberal but I'm not on the Socialist line.

For example:

I'm for the Death Penalty in certain cases.

I support the right to bear arms (but agree there needs to be reasonable gun control).

However, I'm not going to support the current Republican Party's social policies such as the idea that Abortion should be banned in all cases, being against Gay Marriage, for The War on Drugs, little to no Gun control, against the reformation of the Health Care system, for Creationism and Prayer in schools,etc.

Never mind the wasteful overspending that the last two-term Republicans have done, which should put any real Fiscal Conservative into shock and awe.

What the hell is non-liberal about supporting the death penalty? The liberals believe in the death penalty for children, for the old and infirm, for anyone who is mentally ill or otherwise "deficient". Hell, you guys invented the death penalty.

Shocking another right wing fascist complete BS spin from you especially since your nut job party wants to privatize SS and make old people homeless. And then I like the spin of being pro-choice as being for the death penalty, so ur the nut job who calls us Baby Killers. And the mentally ill, are you fucking kidding me? Republicans hate the social programs that Dems put into place to help the mentally ill. My Great Grandmother worked in the White House under Kennedy on the 1st ever Committee for the education of the Mentally Retarded and she, like the other 24 members, and Kennedy are DEMOCRATS. So try your bullshit somewhere else.

Alliebaba = Full of shit. Look it up if you don't believe me, her name is Irene Asbury and she is the woman on the right standing up in a room with Kennedy and the other 24 members
how ironic that you respond with nothing but total BS yourself
:lol:
 
The difference being that Clinton was on trial for sexual harassment, and convicted of lying under oath about his propensity to use his power to coerce vulnerable women into having sex with him.

Little different than making things up out of whole cloth, which is what the dems have done to Palin.


And calling Barack by his middle name is what again? Or how Sandford and Ensign and Gingrich were the 3 fascists who went after Clinton the hardest and then did the same thing? Where are you on that?

Personally, Clinton should've never been asked the question anyway cause its nobody's fucking business who he's banging except for Hillary and if she don't care than neither do I. You see, we on the left don't hoist ourselves up as the "moral" party and then turn around and do all the things that you said you would never do


Hussein is his middle name. It wasn't imaginary.

And if someone is being TRIED FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT you better goddamn believe their sex lives are on trial. That's what happens when you use state troopers as pimps and your power to harass women.

He was found guilty of those things, was he?
 
So, essentially, you are willing to vote against your political ideology? Voting for McCain over Gore would be an example of that.

I'm a Liberal but I'm not on the Socialist line.

For example:

I'm for the Death Penalty in certain cases.

I support the right to bear arms (but agree there needs to be reasonable gun control).

However, I'm not going to support the current Republican Party's social policies such as the idea that Abortion should be banned in all cases, being against Gay Marriage, for The War on Drugs, little to no Gun control, against the reformation of the Health Care system, for Creationism and Prayer in schools,etc.

Never mind the wasteful overspending that the last two-term Republicans have done, which should put any real Fiscal Conservative into shock and awe.

What the hell is non-liberal about supporting the death penalty? The liberals believe in the death penalty for children, for the old and infirm, for anyone who is mentally ill or otherwise "deficient". Hell, you guys invented the death penalty.

Wow...what a pack of lies.
 

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