It "Appears" most liberals want MORE laws.. so answer this liberals...

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

and all those laws/regulations were passed by democrats?
Republicans control no legislatures or governors offices in any state?

Just consider the two massive regulatory bills passed after Obama was elected. There is Obamacare and that piece of crap that Barney Frank and Chris Dodd sponsored. Republicans didn't have thing to do with it. Furthermore, regulatory agencies are staffed primarily by liberal Democrats. Conservatives don't long to become useless tics on the ass of society.
Furthermore, regulatory agencies are staffed primarily by liberal Democrats. Conservatives don't long to become useless tics on the ass of society.
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Cheney is a LIBERAL?
 
Which usually comes first: a problem, or a law or rule to correct the problem? Which came first, bad working conditions or labor unions? Which came first governments or people living in groups? Which came first illness or healers?
 
is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

and all those laws/regulations were passed by democrats?
Republicans control no legislatures or governors offices in any state?

Just consider the two massive regulatory bills passed after Obama was elected. There is Obamacare and that piece of crap that Barney Frank and Chris Dodd sponsored. Republicans didn't have thing to do with it. Furthermore, regulatory agencies are staffed primarily by liberal Democrats. Conservatives don't long to become useless tics on the ass of society.
Dodd Frank put back into effect much of Glass Steagall which was repealed by a GOP congress (although Clinton did sign off on this well)

what about Dodd Frank is so terrible?

(notice im leaving the health care law out of this discussion since no conservative can point to a section of the law, and i mean exact section outside the mandate, that they disagree with. so lets not go there right now)
 
and all those laws/regulations were passed by democrats?
Republicans control no legislatures or governors offices in any state?

Just consider the two massive regulatory bills passed after Obama was elected. There is Obamacare and that piece of crap that Barney Frank and Chris Dodd sponsored. Republicans didn't have thing to do with it. Furthermore, regulatory agencies are staffed primarily by liberal Democrats. Conservatives don't long to become useless tics on the ass of society.
Dodd Frank put back into effect much of Glass Steagall which was repealed by a GOP congress (although Clinton did sign off on this well)

what about Dodd Frank is so terrible?

Glass Steagal was 37 pages. Dodd/Frank was well over 2000 pages. The problem with the later has been exposed in detail by numerous commentators. The claim that all it did is restore Glass-Steagal doesn't pass the laugh test.

(notice im leaving the health care law out of this discussion since no conservative can point to a section of the law, and i mean exact section outside the mandate, that they disagree with. so lets not go there right now)

ROLF! You must be joking. Problem with it have been posted in detail for the last 20 years. I object to every word of it.
 
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Just consider the two massive regulatory bills passed after Obama was elected. There is Obamacare and that piece of crap that Barney Frank and Chris Dodd sponsored. Republicans didn't have thing to do with it. Furthermore, regulatory agencies are staffed primarily by liberal Democrats. Conservatives don't long to become useless tics on the ass of society.
Dodd Frank put back into effect much of Glass Steagall which was repealed by a GOP congress (although Clinton did sign off on this well)

what about Dodd Frank is so terrible?

Glass Steagal was 37 pages. Dodd/Frank was well over 2000 pages. The problem with the later of been exposed in detail by numerous commentators. The claim that all it did is restore Glass-Steagal doesn't pass the laugh test.

(notice im leaving the health care law out of this discussion since no conservative can point to a section of the law, and i mean exact section outside the mandate, that they disagree with. so lets not go there right now)

ROLF! You must be joking. Problem with it have been posted in detail for the last 20 years. I object to every word of it.
again point to which part of the Dodd Frank law you disagree with. you simply avoided the question.

so hence you object to mammograms being included at no cost, insurance companies being able to drop you if you get sick, reimposing lifetime caps, reinstating pre-existing conditions, not being able to sell insurance across state lines, making 80% of all premium dollars pay for actual patient services, offer tax credits to small businesses for providing insurance, not being able to raise rates on individuals to push them out of the market, letting kids stay on their parents insurance until 26. yup those are all terrible things to have in a law......
 
We need to return to a Constitutional Federal Republic, as framed. I believe Jefferson and Washington would agree along with all other original framers. The Magna Carta was a good start and the Declaration was better. All Socialist Democracies in history without exception has faded into utter oblivion.

The libs need to consider same......

Robert

can you have somebody translate the above into the King's English?
 
is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller


you were warned bout the brown acid, d00d.

s h i t
 
again point to which part of the Dodd Frank law you disagree with. you simply avoided the question.

so hence you object to mammograms being included at no cost, insurance companies being able to drop you if you get sick, reimposing lifetime caps, reinstating pre-existing conditions, not being able to sell insurance across state lines, making 80% of all premium dollars pay for actual patient services, offer tax credits to small businesses for providing insurance, not being able to raise rates on individuals to push them out of the market, letting kids stay on their parents insurance until 26. yup those are all terrible things to have in a law......

Yes, I object to all something-for-nothing schemes and government telling me what I can buy and what I can't buy.
 
Which usually comes first: a problem, or a law or rule to correct the problem? Which came first, bad working conditions or labor unions? Which came first governments or people living in groups? Which came first illness or healers?

You're confused if you think laws solve social problems.
 
Which usually comes first: a problem, or a law or rule to correct the problem? Which came first, bad working conditions or labor unions? Which came first governments or people living in groups? Which came first illness or healers?

You're confused if you think laws solve social problems.

If laws don't solve social problems, then can you please explain Santorum?
 
is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

If there were no laws agaisnt drunk driving, could we trust the personal responsibility of human beings to keep drunks off the road?
 
Which usually comes first: a problem, or a law or rule to correct the problem? Which came first, bad working conditions or labor unions? Which came first governments or people living in groups? Which came first illness or healers?

You're confused if you think laws solve social problems.

Are laws against child molestation wrong because they're trying to legislate morality?
 
We need to return to a Constitutional Federal Republic, as framed. I believe Jefferson and Washington would agree along with all other original framers. The Magna Carta was a good start and the Declaration was better. All Socialist Democracies in history without exception has faded into utter oblivion.

The libs need to consider same......

Robert

All of them?

What about every "first world" country in the world today?


Good question. However, I do not know. I am not a citizen of them. I am a citizen of the United States of America. It works here, and thus, perhaps would work for them as well. And since we were an experiment unlike anything the world had tried up to that time, it may work elsewhere with the same conviction of all for one, one for all.....

Robert
 
Which usually comes first: a problem, or a law or rule to correct the problem? Which came first, bad working conditions or labor unions? Which came first governments or people living in groups? Which came first illness or healers?

You're confused if you think laws solve social problems.

Are laws against child molestation wrong because they're trying to legislate morality?

Many people missed my point.

It appears MOST liberals are like children and most non-liberals are the adults.
MOST liberals are NOT educated in common sense. In personal responsibility and more fundamentally the laws of physics which supercede the laws of man!

"Texting while driving" law for example.
Most liberals when asking for the law are really saying they haven't any common sense!
Liberals still don't understand that at 20mph you travel 60 feet in one second!
Liberals don't understand at 60mph they travel almost the length of a football field 272 feet by the time they take their eyes off their texting to stopping!

So what we have is a lack of education on the part of MOST liberals regarding physical laws of reaction!

THESE SAME liberals though have been educated since pre-school and through the media, and advertising that "global warming" is a fact!
These same liberals don't use plastic grocery bags because they've been taught!

So it appears that MOST liberals are then still children when it comes to understanding the physical laws of reaction time TRUMP the laws of man!

If the same effort at teaching DAILY at preschool and all through adulthood the physical laws of cause and effect.. i.e. LIBERAL when you text and drive you are not able to stop your car! YOU will die.

It's just LIBERALS that seemingly ignore the physical laws!
LIBERALS laugh at abstinence.
YET it is a physical law that if YOU DON"T SCREW i.e. F..K you won't get pregnant!
YET is mostly liberals who as I've pointed out are still kids and REQUIRE the adults
to provide them contraception ..WHY?? Because Liberals are still horny teen agers without any concept of "Personal responsibility" or physical laws..i.e. don't screw ..you
won't get pregnant!


So it's pretty simple it appears.
LIBERALS who are suppose to be the more intelligent, better educated are stupid,
un-educated children who have yet to understand the physical laws, i.e. you can't text while driving, i.e. you have to abstain if you don't want to get pregnant and that the physical laws WILL ALWAYS TRUMP the laws of man!

MOST LIBERALS therefore BECAUSE they are uneducated many not smart enough
HAVE TO HAVE THE GOVT. tell them how to drive,protect them from their urges,..i.e.
NANNY STATE!


The average driver in a passenger car traveling at 20 mph in ideal conditions will take approximately 22 feet to react to a situation, then 23 feet to apply the brakes, for a total distance of 62 feet traveled.
However, the time and distance needs increase considerably at higher speeds. At 60 mph, the average driver will take about 66 feet to react, then 272 feet to apply the brakes, for a total of 272 feet traveled. That's almost the length of a football field!
NewYorkDefensiveDriving.com, New York State DMV approved internet point and insurance reduction online defensive driving program (IPIRP), Online Course
 
Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

Oh my GOD! ~ that's hilarious.


The Starship Enterprise is your model for an effective form of government?!

That's rather telling, don't you think?

No wait, let me rephrase that rhetorical question into a more honest statement:

If you were the kind of person who was capable of THINKING CLEARLY, you would find your statement as highly amusing as many of us already do.

Kid? You just touted on behalf of a completely authoritarian FASCIST style government as your IDEAL kind of government.

Kid?

You're a authoritarian STATIS and apparently YOU do not even know it.
 
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You're confused if you think laws solve social problems.

Are laws against child molestation wrong because they're trying to legislate morality?

Many people missed my point.

It appears MOST liberals are like children and most non-liberals are the adults.
MOST liberals are NOT educated in common sense. In personal responsibility and more fundamentally the laws of physics which supercede the laws of man!

"Texting while driving" law for example.
Most liberals when asking for the law are really saying they haven't any common sense!
Liberals still don't understand that at 20mph you travel 60 feet in one second!
Liberals don't understand at 60mph they travel almost the length of a football field 272 feet by the time they take their eyes off their texting to stopping!

People don't have common sense. That's what the law is for. To beat some common sense into the heads of idiots who drive and text with the hopes that the law will stop them from doing what their own lack of common sense couldn't.

Vehicle/traffic/driving laws are not made for the people with common sense. They are made for the idiots, to try to keep them from killing us.

Prove to me that no one is texting and driving, and I'll concede that laws against texting and driving are unnecessary.
 
Sometimes, when you read out loud the stuff you write down, you realize how stupid it sounds so you don't post it. Try it sometime. Read your statement out loud then see if you think it still makes enough sense.

If that was true you wouldn't post a single fucking word, moron.
 
We need to return to a Constitutional Federal Republic, as framed. I believe Jefferson and Washington would agree along with all other original framers. The Magna Carta was a good start and the Declaration was better. All Socialist Democracies in history without exception has faded into utter oblivion.

The libs need to consider same......

Robert

You guys are funny. First off..Washington and Jefferson weren't on speaking terms. Washington wanted the Federal government to have more power. Jefferson was more a "states rights" person..UNTIL he became president. Then..he saw how silly an idea that was when he wanted to fend off the Barbary pirates and needed to purchase War ships to do so. Oh, he also changed his mind about the "Refresh the tree of Liberty.." thing after he saw the effects of the French Revolution. Second off..the Declaration was a one off repudiation of British rule. Law is not derived from there. And the Magna Carta has such archaic language such as "Debts to Jewish Bankers can be ignored" that it makes almost no sense in this day in age.

Man.:lol:
 

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