It "Appears" most liberals want MORE laws.. so answer this liberals...

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    is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

    In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
    The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

    Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

    In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

    To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
    What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
    I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
    Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

    Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

    YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

    Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

    Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
    The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller
     
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    Sometimes, when you read out loud the stuff you write down, you realize how stupid it sounds so you don't post it. Try it sometime. Read your statement out loud then see if you think it still makes enough sense.
     
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    your argument assumes that people are only doing this in fear of the law.

    you use the argument of texting while driving, well what about the argument of wearing your seatbelt? there used to be no seat belt laws and it was the"personal responsibility" of the driver or passenger to wear one at their discretion. after thousands of "preventable" deaths, the government realized that making a law forcing people do to so actually saves lives. same argument you make with texting while driving. is it a safety issue? or is it a personal responsibility issue?

    your entire argument seems to be revolved around safety, since OSHA puts in place rules and regulations to provide employee safety. texting while driving is a safety issue. as technology changes and new technology is invented, new rules must be put in place to govern them. what if one say we have flying cars. do you not think that there wont be new rules and laws passed to govern such a thing? we didnt even have texting 15 years ago, so there was no reasons to have a law dealing with the safety issue of it. now, with the statistics showing that texting while driving contributed to 16,000 deaths over a 6 year time span, this along gives a reason why people need to for forced not to do it.

    Study: Texting while driving responsible for 16,000 deaths in 6 years | TechCrunch

    the people on the right like to talk about personal responsibility all the time, but then again the states that are heavily Republican and under Republican control receive more in federal tax dollars than they pay (as a state) back into the system. so it works both ways.
     
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    Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

    YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.
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    And more Voter ID laws ARE on the way; plus, maybe another attempt at DOMA, and many, many rules & regs legislating particular versions of morality. THOSE laws I can o without.
     
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    I want more anti abortion laws - in every state. I demand laws against gays using the term marriage to describe their faux unions.

    I want to outlaw lots of things

    Why? Because I want to turn back the clock to the way things were in the mind of true freedom loving Americans

    I'm a conservative nitwit
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    Starfleet General Orders and Regulations - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki

    Those regulations weren't put into place by the Federation Council until Picard's day: "Force of Nature."

    You strike me as someone who would prefer a different set of guidelines: the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition.
     
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    and all those laws/regulations were passed by democrats?
    Republicans control no legislatures or governors offices in any state?
     
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    We need to return to a Constitutional Federal Republic, as framed. I believe Jefferson and Washington would agree along with all other original framers. The Magna Carta was a good start and the Declaration was better. All Socialist Democracies in history without exception has faded into utter oblivion.

    The libs need to consider same......

    Robert
     
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    It "appears," no surprise, that Healthmyths has no idea what liberals actually want.
     
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    Healthmyths has no idea of what HE wants.

    It depends on what the next RW political pundit tells him he wants.
     
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