It "Appears" most liberals want MORE laws.. so answer this liberals...

[healthmyths]

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

 

[rdean]

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

Sometimes, when you read out loud the stuff you write down, you realize how stupid it sounds so you don't post it. Try it sometime. Read your statement out loud then see if you think it still makes enough sense.

 

[Syphon]

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

your argument assumes that people are only doing this in fear of the law.

you use the argument of texting while driving, well what about the argument of wearing your seatbelt? there used to be no seat belt laws and it was the"personal responsibility" of the driver or passenger to wear one at their discretion. after thousands of "preventable" deaths, the government realized that making a law forcing people do to so actually saves lives. same argument you make with texting while driving. is it a safety issue? or is it a personal responsibility issue?

your entire argument seems to be revolved around safety, since OSHA puts in place rules and regulations to provide employee safety. texting while driving is a safety issue. as technology changes and new technology is invented, new rules must be put in place to govern them. what if one say we have flying cars. do you not think that there wont be new rules and laws passed to govern such a thing? we didnt even have texting 15 years ago, so there was no reasons to have a law dealing with the safety issue of it. now, with the statistics showing that texting while driving contributed to 16,000 deaths over a 6 year time span, this along gives a reason why people need to for forced not to do it.

Study: Texting while driving responsible for 16,000 deaths in 6 years | TechCrunch

the people on the right like to talk about personal responsibility all the time, but then again the states that are heavily Republican and under Republican control receive more in federal tax dollars than they pay (as a state) back into the system. so it works both ways.

 

[Peach]

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.
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And more Voter ID laws ARE on the way; plus, maybe another attempt at DOMA, and many, many rules & regs legislating particular versions of morality. THOSE laws I can o without.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

It "Appears" most liberals want MORE laws.. so answer this liberals...

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

I want more anti abortion laws - in every state. I demand laws against gays using the term marriage to describe their faux unions.

I want to outlaw lots of things

Why? Because I want to turn back the clock to the way things were in the mind of true freedom loving Americans

I'm a conservative nitwit

 

[Greenbeard]

What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?

Starfleet General Orders and Regulations - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

Those regulations weren't put into place by the Federation Council until Picard's day: "Force of Nature."

You strike me as someone who would prefer a different set of guidelines: the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition.

 

[uscitizen]

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

and all those laws/regulations were passed by democrats?
Republicans control no legislatures or governors offices in any state?

 

[Robert_Stephens]

We need to return to a Constitutional Federal Republic, as framed. I believe Jefferson and Washington would agree along with all other original framers. The Magna Carta was a good start and the Declaration was better. All Socialist Democracies in history without exception has faded into utter oblivion.

The libs need to consider same......

Robert

 

[Dragon]

It "appears," no surprise, that Healthmyths has no idea what liberals actually want.

 

[uscitizen]

It "appears," no surprise, that Healthmyths has no idea what liberals actually want.

Healthmyths has no idea of what HE wants.

It depends on what the next RW political pundit tells him he wants.

 

[del]

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

you were warned bout the brown acid, d00d.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

We need to return to a Constitutional Federal Republic, as framed. I believe Jefferson and Washington would agree along with all other original framers. The Magna Carta was a good start and the Declaration was better. All Socialist Democracies in history without exception has faded into utter oblivion.

The libs need to consider same......

Robert

All of them?

What about every "first world" country in the world today?

 

[ABikerSailor]

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

LOTS of people text and drive, I see them when I'm out riding my bicycle in town, and they scare the fuck outta me because a 140 lb man and a 21 lb bicycle are no match for a 2,000 lb car.

Should there be a law against it? Yes, because it's dangerous and can harm others in the public arena.

But...........think about this.............WHY is it that we need a law for that? Simple actually, as cell phones with texting ability didn't exist 10 years ago, they do now.

We didn't have driving laws until Henry Ford put a car in almost every garage, but then again, before that, we didn't NEED them, we do now.

And finally, comparing a real life scenario to Star Trek is just fucking stupid.

 

[uscitizen]

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

you were warned bout the brown acid, d00d.

which color pill did he swallow?

 

[uscitizen]

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

LOTS of people text and drive, I see them when I'm out riding my bicycle in town, and they scare the fuck outta me because a 140 lb man and a 21 lb bicycle are no match for a 2,000 lb car.

Should there be a law against it? Yes, because it's dangerous and can harm others in the public arena.

But...........think about this.............WHY is it that we need a law for that? Simple actually, as cell phones with texting ability didn't exist 10 years ago, they do now.

We didn't have driving laws until Henry Ford put a car in almost every garage, but then again, before that, we didn't NEED them, we do now.

And finally, comparing a real life scenario to Star Trek is just fucking stupid.

Your last 4 words describe healthmyths to a T.

 

[Peach]

We need to return to a Constitutional Federal Republic, as framed. I believe Jefferson and Washington would agree along with all other original framers. The Magna Carta was a good start and the Declaration was better. All Socialist Democracies in history without exception has faded into utter oblivion.

The libs need to consider same......

Robert

All of them?

What about every "first world" country in the world today?

What about every "first world" country in the world today?
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FREEDOM FRIES is the response! And there were a few CENTURIES between the Magna Carta & The Declaration.

 

[g5000]

Speaking of fear, we saw George W. Bush declare a war on terror.

We got a much larger federal government out of it, including a whole new Cabinet level department.

WE INTERRUPT THIS POST TO ISSUE AN ORANGE ALERT

Not only that, "conservatives" want to build a GIGANTIC FENCE around our border.

So who is ripped by fear, again?

Please show your Voter ID at the bunker entrance.

 

[bripat9643]

is there ever an occasion or action that requires "personal responsibility"?

In other words is it as I assume the reason liberals OBEY any laws or regulations is because of fear of being caught?
The reason I ask is I heard on the radio this talk host say "well if they make it a law not to text and drive, I'll obey it"!

Is that the attitude of liberals, i.e. if there is NO LAW then I'll do whatever I feel like doing even though it violates the laws of physics or the laws of Karma or the Golden Rule?

In other words do MOST liberals obey laws,rules and regulations out of fear of being caught?

To take this further especially you nerdy liberals...
What minutia of rules,laws regulations did Star Trek characters follow?
I mean did the Federation have OSHA,EPA,EEOC, etc. equivalents?
Were there rules like OSHA has that says 1 water closet for every 15 employees?

Really what kind of regulatory burden did Kirk have to abide with every time he exceeded warp drive?

YOU see what I mean? In 2012 40,000 new state rules,laws,regulations went into affect.

Between 1995 and 2010, the total time spent by the public complying with federal regulations grew by 25%. Such a significant increase over the past decade and a half may well have deterred new business investment even before the 2008 financial crisis.

Over the same period, regulatory agencies’ budgets grew by 166%, according to an analysis by Susan Dudley and Melinda Warren. The increase in expenditures occurred as agencies created new rules, stepped up enforcement of existing mandates and increased staffing.
The growing regulatory state | The Daily Caller

and all those laws/regulations were passed by democrats?
Republicans control no legislatures or governors offices in any state?

Just consider the two massive regulatory bills passed after Obama was elected. There is Obamacare and that piece of crap that Barney Frank and Chris Dodd sponsored. Republicans didn't have thing to do with it. Furthermore, regulatory agencies are staffed primarily by liberal Democrats. Conservatives don't long to become useless tics on the ass of society.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Speaking of fear, we saw George W. Bush declare a war on terror.

We got a much larger federal government out of it, including a whole new Cabinet level department.

WE INTERRUPT THIS POST TO ISSUE AN ORANGE ALERT

Not only that, "conservatives" want to build a GIGANTIC FENCE around our border.

So who is ripped by fear, again?

Please show your Voter ID at the bunker entrance.

Yep, that's where it started with Jr's Homeland Security and the terror alerts.

However............the GOP saw that the tactics of fear worked for Jr. to get us into a war with Iraq (who had NOTHING to do with 9/11), and they just continued them.

There's just one problem with fear though............you fear most what you understand least, and eventually fear is going to stop working as a tactic to get the sheeple to do your bidding.

When fear ceases to work? Next.........invoke the name of God and stand on your "good Christian values" like Santorum and Gingrich are doing. Only problem is, Romney can't quite do that as most people in this country know very little about Mormons and many Christians consider it to be a cult.

Hmm..........wonder if Jr's putting Bible verses on his Iraq war briefs was where they got that?

 

[bripat9643]

It "appears," no surprise, that Healthmyths has no idea what liberals actually want.

Sure he does. Liberals are servile toadies who long to be told what to do by an all powerful authoritarian government.