Israel's Nuclear Weaponry

[Agnapostate]

As I've said elsewhere:

Why is it that Iran, for instance, is harassed for attempting to create a nuclear energy program, (which it has the right to do under the terms of the Non-Proliferation Treaty), while Israel refuses to declare the existence of its nuclear weapons program, refuses to sign the NPT, all after having concealed their initial program development from American inspectors? Moreover, why is it that the IAEA never investigates Israel's program? Could it be because of American pressure on the IAEA's board of governors?

 

[dilloduck]

As I've said elsewhere:

Why is it that Iran, for instance, is harassed for attempting to create a nuclear energy program, (which it has the right to do under the terms of the Non-Proliferation Treaty), while Israel refuses to declare the existence of its nuclear weapons program, refuses to sign the NPT, all after having concealed their initial program development from American inspectors? Moreover, why is it that the IAEA never investigates Israel's program? Could it be because of American pressure on the IAEA's board of governors?

Jewish pressure

 

[Agnapostate]

Jewish pressure

I wouldn't necessarily say "Jewish" pressure since the Israel lobby in the United States is composed of far more than Jews and many Gentiles, such as Christian Zionists. But in all practical senses, I actually know why it isn't questioned.

I'm asking the supporters of Israel about the purpose of the double standard.

 

[dilloduck]

I wouldn't necessarily say "Jewish" pressure since the Israel lobby in the United States is composed of far more than Jews and many Gentiles, such as Christian Zionists. But in all practical senses, I actually know why it isn't questioned.

I'm asking the supporters of Israel about the purpose of the double standard.

Isn't the answer obvious ? To maintain superiority.

 

[Sunni Man]

America's Z.O.G. leaders have decided it is in Israels best interest to declare the existence of its nuclear weapons program

 

[Agnapostate]

Isn't the answer obvious ? To maintian superiority.

It is obvious, but I'm wondering if they'll blather on about the "unique threat posed by Iran due to its fundamentalist and theocratic nature."

 

[dilloduck]

America's Z.O.G. leaders have decided it is in Israels best interest to declare the existence of its nuclear weapons program

When did this happen?

 

[Paulie]

This topic will get completely derailed by the "anti-anti-zionists" as soon as it receives enough attention to warrant participating.

And the original question will never be completely answered. I'd like an answer to it my DAMN self.

 

[Agnapostate]

This topic will get completely derailed by the "anti-anti-zionists" as soon as it receives enough attention to warrant participating.

And the original question will never be completely answered. I'd like an answer to it my DAMN self.

I wouldn't even identify as an "anti-Zionist" myself. I'm a Labor Zionist in the spirit of Hashomer Hatzair and Habonim Dror. I believe that the backbone of Jewish culture in Israel should be the kibbutzim, as I've said in the past.

 

[Shogun]

This topic will get completely derailed by the "anti-anti-zionists" as soon as it receives enough attention to warrant participating.

And the original question will never be completely answered. I'd like an answer to it my DAMN self.

 

[sylverfoxx]

America's Z.O.G. leaders have decided it is in Israels best interest to declare the existence of its nuclear weapons program

interesting avatar!!

 

[Paulie]

I wear mine with pride.

 

[GHook93]

As I've said elsewhere:

Why is it that Iran, for instance, is harassed for attempting to create a nuclear energy program, (which it has the right to do under the terms of the Non-Proliferation Treaty), while Israel refuses to declare the existence of its nuclear weapons program, refuses to sign the NPT, all after having concealed their initial program development from American inspectors? Moreover, why is it that the IAEA never investigates Israel's program? Could it be because of American pressure on the IAEA's board of governors?

Here is the reasons:

(1) Israeli nukes are not considered a threat to the US, Russia, China or EU - Iran nukes could be on a tanker floating into NYC. Could be given to Hezbollah, Iraqi Shia Militias for a terrorist attack in France, India, Britian, Germany or US.

(2) Israel nukes have slight to no chance of falling into the hands of Islamic Terrorists. Al Qaeda could pull and enemy of my enemy is my friend. Hezbollah, Chechan Rebels etc could likely obtain a nuke from Iran.

(3) Israel is a democracy; Iran is a country with a fake democracy run ultimately is run by the radical Islamic Ayatollahs!

(4) Israel has never made threats against the West, Iran has!
(5) An atomic Iran will lead to a nuclear arms race in the middle East and then the world This is the most important one. First nukes will be developed Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE (have land disputes with Iran) and Turkey. Next Jordan (with help from SA), Lebanon (with help from Iran), Syria (dido), Libya (in response to their no so always friendly relations with their bigger neighbor Egypt) and ironically Iraq (faced with ancient enemy of Iran acquiring nukes) etc. Soon rogue nations like the Sudan, the Congo, Mymanmar/Burma etc. Would be a matter of time before one goes off! Israeli nuke haven't had this effect

(5) Iran would publize their nuclear arms to influence the area, intimidate her neighbors and to spit in the US and EU's face. They would make it public to increase their influence and clout around the world, which would cause major problems. Israel on the other hand, keeps her nukes a secret. She is not using them to gain clout or influence in the region, rather to insure her survival!

(6) Israel is a staunch allie of ours. She is no direct threat to us!

(7) Israel never signed the Non-proliferation Agreement, so she is not bound to it.

(8) Israel's President hasn't make genocidal comments about other country. Alamnutjob continues to make comments.

(9) All of Iran's neighbors recognize her and her right to exist. Now that Sadam is gone there is very little chance of her going to war with any of them. To the contrary, no of Israel's neighbors recognize her. Even Egypt and Jordan only have a semi-warm peace with Israel.

(10) A Iran could theortically survive a nuclear attack, before the International community reacted. Even one nuke in Israel would lead to her destruction.

 

[Shogun]

(3) Israel is a democracy; Iran is a country with a fake democracy run ultimately is run by the radical Islamic Ayatollahs!


IRONIC!

 

[GHook93]

I wouldn't even identify as an "anti-Zionist" myself. I'm a Labor Zionist in the spirit of Hashomer Hatzair and Habonim Dror. I believe that the backbone of Jewish culture in Israel should be the kibbutzim, as I've said in the past.

To translate to everyone - he is saying he is an

 

[Neubarth]

As I've said elsewhere:

Why is it that Iran, for instance, is harassed for attempting to create a nuclear energy program, (which it has the right to do under the terms of the Non-Proliferation Treaty), while Israel refuses to declare the existence of its nuclear weapons program, refuses to sign the NPT, all after having concealed their initial program development from American inspectors? Moreover, why is it that the IAEA never investigates Israel's program? Could it be because of American pressure on the IAEA's board of governors?

Very simple, Iran is one of the greatest terrorist nations in thehistory of the world. The US and Europe has offered to help them build nuclear power plants based upon the pressurized water reactor as long as the fuel for those plants is processed elsewhere. Iran has said NO because they don't want a nuclear plant. They want the bomb. I personally favor the destruction of their capacity to build the bomb simply because they are so totally evil.

When you are dealing with Satanic forces there is no alternative. We realized what we had to do with Hitler, and we did it. It is time that history repeats itself.

 

[Agnapostate]

I'll respond today or tomorrow.

 

[Sunni Man]

Very simple, Iran is one of the greatest terrorist nations in thehistory of the world. The US and Europe has offered to help them build nuclear power plants based upon the pressurized water reactor as long as the fuel for those plants is processed elsewhere. Iran has said NO because they don't want a nuclear plant. They want the bomb. I personally favor the destruction of their capacity to build the bomb simply because they are so totally evil.

When you are dealing with Satanic forces there is no alternative. We realized what we had to do with Hitler, and we did it. It is time that history repeats itself.

That is so way over the top.

Iran hasn't attacked anyone in the last 300 years.

 

[Agnapostate]

(1) Israeli nukes are not considered a threat to the US, Russia, China or EU - Iran nukes could be on a tanker floating into NYC. Could be given to Hezbollah, Iraqi Shia Militias for a terrorist attack in France, India, Britian, Germany or US.

Israel's nuclear program is suspicious in that they have refused to openly declare its existence or submit it to international inspections. Israel has refused to participate in the Non-Proliferation Treaty, and has also refused to declare themselves a nuclear power despite possessing upwards of 200 nuclear weapons. (And Daniel Ben-Gurion and Levi Eshkol both concealed their nuclear weapons program from inspectors for many years.) Their possession of nuclear weapons and hostile threats toward Iran and its other Arab neighbors also serve as a powerful incentive for Iran to attempt to develop nuclear weapons.

Moreover, Hezbollah does not pose an international threat to the U.S. or Europe, and is largely a regional threat to Israel created by Israel's ill-conceived 1982 invasion of Lebanon.

(2) Israel nukes have slight to no chance of falling into the hands of Islamic Terrorists. Al Qaeda could pull and enemy of my enemy is my friend. Hezbollah, Chechan Rebels etc could likely obtain a nuke from Iran.

It is unlikely that a Persian, Shi'a government would go to the trouble of developing nuclear weapons only to surrender control of them to an Arab, Sunni jihadist organization, and their differences are far deeper than those that can be alleviated by mutual dislike of the United States.

(3) Israel is a democracy; Iran is a country with a fake democracy run ultimately is run by the radical Islamic Ayatollahs!

Israel is not a democracy of the nature that the U.S. would want to support. Unlike the U.S, a multicultural, multiethnic country, the state of Israel is specifically devoted to the superiority of the Jewish ethnic group. Previous U.S. foreign policy has also not been based on support of democracies, but destabilization and destruction of democracies around the world because they contained socialistic elements, including that of Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadeq of Iran. The U.S. then supported the government of the Shah of Iran, whose brutal SAVAK police terrorized the Iranian citizenry. This led to the 1979 Islamic Revolution and the rise of the mullahs and imams. Hence, although Iran's current government is somewhat authoritarian and theocratic, (although it would be inaccurate to claim that it was not democratic at all), this has been caused by previous U.S. action. Iran's theocratic nature is also clearly not the basis behind U.S. opposition to them, as the U.S. is a major trade partner of Saudi Arabia, a far more brutal theocracy.

(4) Israel has never made threats against the West, Iran has!

Iran has not made threats against the West. If you are referring to Ahmadinejad's alleged threat to "wipe Israel off the map," those claims are factually inaccurate, for he never said that Israel should be wiped off the map, and that is a distortion by the Western media. It is a false statement, and an egregious mistranslation of Ahmadinejad's words. Ahmadinejad's remarks are reported as having been "een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad," or "[Ayatollah Khomeini] said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must [vanish from] the page of time."

It is first notable that he did not reference Israel, but the regime in current occupation of Jerusalem. He was referring to the current government of Israel, not the citizenry of Israel or Jewish people in general. In fact, Ahmadinejad has expressed support for the Jewish people, while at the same time condemning Israeli policies. He has said that, "creating an objection against the Zionists doesn't mean that there are objections against the Jewish." Yet, anti-Zionism and anti-semitism are often conflated by pro-Israel lobbies for political gain. Ahmadinejad also said that Jews lived in Iran and were represented by the Parliament.

Next, the phrase "wiped off the map" suggests a hostile military threat, while the phrase "vanish from the page of time" merely expresses a desire that the interventionist Israeli government will eventually lose power and influence. Ahmadinejad has explicitly opposed military action against Israel, declaring, "I assure you... there won't be any war in the future." He has also said that "there is no need for any measures by the Iranian people" to bring about the end of the "Zionist regime" in Israel. Supreme Leader Ali Khameini also said that Iran "will not commit aggression against any nation." The distortion of his claims is essentially equivalent to claiming that Americans who oppose the Bush regime and its policies are calling for its violent overthrow, which is obviously untrue.

Yet, Shimon Peres responded by saying, "the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map." This was reported by essentially no one because the Western media has a pro-Israel bias. Hence, it is Shimon Peres who has threatened another country, not Ahmadinejad.

(5) An atomic Iran will lead to a nuclear arms race in the middle East and then the world This is the most important one. First nukes will be developed Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE (have land disputes with Iran) and Turkey. Next Jordan (with help from SA), Lebanon (with help from Iran), Syria (dido), Libya (in response to their no so always friendly relations with their bigger neighbor Egypt) and ironically Iraq (faced with ancient enemy of Iran acquiring nukes) etc. Soon rogue nations like the Sudan, the Congo, Mymanmar/Burma etc. Would be a matter of time before one goes off! Israeli nuke haven't had this effect...Iran would publize their nuclear arms to influence the area, intimidate her neighbors and to spit in the US and EU's face. They would make it public to increase their influence and clout around the world, which would cause major problems. Israel on the other hand, keeps her nukes a secret. She is not using them to gain clout or influence in the region, rather to insure her survival!

On the contrary, the existence of Israeli nuclear weapons are the very reason that many Islamic nations desire them. Neighboring Middle Eastern countries think it unjust that Israel is permitted to have nuclear weapons and they are not, which is why they have brought up the issue of Israel's nuclear arsenal on numerous occasions with the International Atomic Energy Agency, which has not acted due to U.S. influence on its board of governors.

(6) Israel is a staunch allie of ours. She is no direct threat to us!

Israel is not an especially dependable ally, considering that they have conducted numerous espionage operations inside the United States, which are especially troubling considering Israel's close relationship with the United States and their ability to exploit that. Are you familiar with the Lavon affair? Or the Jonathan Pollard affair?

A Long History of Israeli Spying on the US | Wake Up From Your Slumber

The Washington Post reported in a front-page story on May 7th, 1997 that US intelligence had intercepted a conversation in which two Israeli officials had discussed the possibility of getting a confidential letter that then-Secretary of State Warren Christopher had written to Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat. One of the Israelis had commented that they may get the letter from "Mega"-- apparently a codename for an Israeli agent within the US government.

This revelation has been treated by much of the press as something of an aberration, as Israeli officials have claimed that they do not spy on the US. Israel Foreign Minister David Levy told the Washington Post (5/8/97) that "Our diplomats all over the world, and of course specifically in the US, don't deal with such a thing." Prime Minister Netanyahu's office declared: "Israel does not use intelligence agents in the United States. Period."

Here is a sampling of the public record of Israeli espionage and covert actions against the US:

According to Time magazine (5/19/97), the US ambassador to Israel, Martin Indyk, last year "complained privately to the Israeli government about heavy-handed surveillance by Israeli intelligence agents, who had been following American-embassy employees in Tel Aviv and searching the hotel rooms of visiting US officials."



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Three relevant documents were made public in early 1996:

1) A General Accounting Office report "Defense Industrial Security: Weaknesses in US Security Arrangements With Foreign-Owned Defense Contractors" found that according to intelligence sources "Country A" (identified by intelligence sources as Israel, Washington Times, 2/22/96) "conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United States of any US ally." The Jerusalem Post (8/30/96) quoted the report, "Classified military information and sensitive military technologies are high-priority targets for the intelligence agencies of this country."

The report described "An espionage operation run by the intelligence organization responsible for collecting scientific and technologic information for [Israel] paid a US government employee to obtain US classified military intelligence documents." The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (Shawn L. Twing, April 1996) noted that this was "a reference to the 1985 arrest of Jonathan Pollard, a civilian US naval intelligence analyst who provided Israel's LAKAM [Office of Special Tasks] espionage agency an estimated 800,000 pages of classified US intelligence information."

The GAO report also noted that "Several citizens of [Israel] were caught in the United States stealing sensitive technology used in manufacturing artillery gun tubes."

2) An Office of Naval Intelligence document, "Worldwide Challenges to Naval Strike Warfare" reported that "US technology has been acquired [by China] through Israel in the form of the Lavi fighter and possibly SAM [surface-to-air] missile technology." Jane's Defense Weekly (2/28/96) noted that "until now, the intelligence community has not openly confirmed the transfer of US technology [via Israel] to China." The report noted that this "represents a dramatic step forward for Chinese military aviation." (Flight International, 3/13/96)

3) The Defense Investigative Service circulated a memo in late 1995 warning US military contractors that "Israel aggressively collects [US] military and industrial technology." The report stated that Israel obtains information using "ethnic targeting, financial aggrandizement, and identification and exploitation of individual frailties" of US citizens. (Washington Post, 1/30/96) (This report was criticized by several groups for allegedly implying that Americans Jews were particularly suspect.)



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From New York Times December 22, 1985, by David K. Shipler:

Many American officials are convinced of Israel's ability, on a routine basis, to obtain sensitive information about this county's secret weapons, advanced technology and internal policy deliberations in Washington...

The F.B.I. knew of at least a dozen incidents in which American officials transferred classified information to the Israelis, [former Assistant Director of the F.B.I.] Mr. [Raymond] Wannal said. The Justice Department did not prosecute.

"When the Pollard case broke, the general media and public perception was that this was the first time this had ever happen," said John Davitt, former chief of the Justice Department's internal security section. "No, that's not true at all. The Israeli intelligence service, when I was in the Justice Department, [1950-1980] was the second most active in the United States, to the Soviets."



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From "The Samson Option," by Seymour M. Hersh
[Page numbers are from the Vintage paperback edition, 1992.]

The name "Mega" in the recent Washington Post story may be noteworthy:

llicitly obtained intelligence was flying so voluminously from LAKAM into Israeli intelligence that a special code name, JUMBO, was added to the security markings already on the documents. There were strict orders, [Ari] Ben-Menashe recalled: "Anything marked JUMBO was not supposed to be discussed with your American counterparts." ("The Samson Option," pg 295)

After Jonathan Pollard was arrested for selling secrets to Israel, the Israeli leadership denied all knowledge. Hersh provides several sources indicating that they did know. Here's one:

The top leadership, of course, knew what was going on. One former Israeli intelligence official recalled that Peres and Rabin, both very sophisticated in the handling of intelligence, were quick to ask, as the official put it, "Where are we getting this stuff?" They were told, the Israeli added, that Israeli intelligence 'has a penetration into the U.S. intelligence community.' Both men let it go. No one said: 'Stop it here and now.'" ("The Samson Option," pg 296)

One of the little-known aspects of the Pollard case is that information was passed along by the Israelis to the Soviets:

For Shamir, the Israeli added, the relaying of the Pollard information to the Soviets was his way of demonstrating that Israel could be a much more dependable and important collaborator in the Middle East than the "fickle" Arabs: "What Arab could give you this?" ("The Samson Option," pg 299)

The Pollard information helped in Israel's ability to exercise "The Samson Option" -- to threaten the Soviet Union, and therefore the US, with nuclear war if they didn't get their way in developments in the Mideast. Disclosure of information to the Soviets also apparently led the Soviets to track down US agents:

One senior American intelligence official confirmed that there have been distinct losses of human and technical intelligence collection ability inside the Soviet Union that have been attributed, after extensive analysis, to Pollard. "The Israeli objective [in the handling of Pollard] was to gather what they could and let the Soviets know that they have a strategic capability--for their survival [the threat of a nuclear strike against the Soviets] and to get their people out [of the Soviet Union]," one former CIA official said. "Where it hurts us is our agents being rolled up and our ability to collect technical intelligence being shut down. When the Soviets found out what's being passed"--in the documents supplied by Pollard to the Israelis--"they shut down the source." ("The Samson Option," pg 300)



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A portion of a 1979 CIA internal report, "Israel: Foreign Intelligence and Security Services" (from The Nation, "I Spy, You Spy, We All Spy," December 14, 1985, by Alexander Cockburn) included the following:

In one instance Shin Beth [the Israeli internal security agency] tried to penetrate the US Consulate General in Jerusalem through a clerical employee who was having an affair with a Jerusalem girl. They rigged a fake abortion case against the employee in an unsuccessful effort to recruit him. Before this attempt at blackmail, they had tried to get the Israeli girl to elicit information from her boyfriend.

Two other important targets in Israel are the US Embassy in Tel Aviv and United Nations Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO) with headquarters in Jerusalem. There have been two or three crude efforts to recruit Marine guards for monetary reward. In the cases involving UNTSO personnel, the operations involved intimidation and blackmail.

In 1954, a hidden microphone planted by the Israelis was discovered in the Office of the US Ambassador in Tel Aviv. In 1956, telephone taps were found connected to two telephones in the residence of the US military attache.



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In March 1978, Stephen Bryen, then a Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffer, was overheard in a DC hotel offering confidential documents to top Israeli military officials. The F.B.I. found Bryen's fingerprints on the documents in question, and he admitted to having obtained them the night before the meeting with the Israelis. Bryen was forced to quit his job, but was never indicted. He was later brought on to the Defense Department as a deputy to Reagan Administration Assistant Secretary Richard Pearle. There Bryen was in charge of such matters as overseeing technology transfers in the Mideast. (See "The Armageddon Network" (Amana Books) by Michael Saba, an officer of the National Association of Arab Americans when he overheard Bryen offer the documents to the Israelis.)

As late as 1992, Stephen Bryen was serving on board of the pro-Israeli Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs while continuing as a paid consultant -- with security clearance -- on exports of sensitive US technology. (Wall Street Journal, 1/22/92, Edward T. Pound and David Rogers)



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* "The Lavon Affair": In 1954, Israeli agents attacked Western targets in Egypt in an apparent attempt to upset US-Egyptian relations. Israeli defense minister Pinchas Lavon was removed from office, though many think real responsibility lay with David Ben-Gurion.

* In 1965, Israel apparently illegally obtained enriched uranium from NUMEC corporation. (Washington Post, 6/5/86, Charles R. Babcock, "US an Intelligence Target of the Israelis, Officials Say.")

* In 1967, Israel attacked the USS Liberty, an intelligence gathering vessel flying a US flag, killing 34 crew members. See "Assault on the Liberty," by James M. Ennes, Jr. (Random House).

* In 1985 Richard Smyth, the owner of MILCO was indicted on charges of smuggling nuclear timing devices to Israel (Washington Post, 10/31/86).

* April 24, 1987 Wall Street Journal headline: "Role of Israel in Iran-Contra Scandal Won't be Explored in Detail by Panels"

* In 1992, the Wall Street Journal reported that Israeli agents apparently tried to steal Recon Optical Inc's top-secret airborne spy-camera system. (1/17/92, Edward T. Pound and David Rogers).

* In early 1997, an Army mechanical engineer, David A. Tenenbaum, told investigators that he "inadvertently" gave classified military information on missile systems and armored vehicles to Israeli officials (New York Times, 2/20/97).

* For detailed analysis of the Israel-US relationship, including covert operations, see "Taking Sides: America's Secret Relations with a Militant Israel" by Stephen Green (Amana Books). Also see "Dangerous Liaisons" by Andrew and Leslie Cockburn (Harper Collins).

* For information on economic espionage see "War By Other Means: Economic Espionage in America" by Wall Street Journal reporter John Fialka (Norton). Also see "Israel's Unauthorized Arms Transfers" in Foreign Policy, Summer 1995, by Prof. Duncan Clarke of American University.

Hence, I would question the veracity of claims of Israel's stable "alliance" with the U.S.

(7) Israel never signed the Non-proliferation Agreement, so she is not bound to it.

Firstly, Iran is within their rights as specified by the Non-Proliferation Treaty to develop a nuclear power program, although they should likely be monitored by international inspectors to ensure that they are indeed developing nuclear power and not nuclear weapons.

Secondly, I suspect that the U.S. and Israel are in violation of the NPT in terms of the nuclear technology that they have likely shared over the past thirty years, though that remains an unproven suspicion.

(8) Israel's President hasn't make genocidal comments about other country. Alamnutjob continues to make comments.

That is false. Israel's current President has made such comments, as I pointed out before.

(9) All of Iran's neighbors recognize her and her right to exist. Now that Sadam is gone there is very little chance of her going to war with any of them. To the contrary, no of Israel's neighbors recognize her. Even Egypt and Jordan only have a semi-warm peace with Israel.

Numerous Islamic countries in the Middle East, (including Iran), have agreed to respect Israel's right to exist and honor the two-state solution if the Palestinians do, as has Hezbollah. Hamas has not, but they are the democratically elected government of Hamas, and have signed peace treaties with Israel in the past that Israel has broken.

(10) A Iran could theortically survive a nuclear attack, before the International community reacted. Even one nuke in Israel would lead to her destruction.

Israel is not without the capacity to defend itself. The IDF is an extremely powerful military force, and won quick and decisive victories against Egypt in 1956 and against Egypt, Jordan, and Syria in 1967 prior to their reception of significant U.S. aid. Israel also has upwards of 200 nuclear weapons of its own at this point, and Iran would not attack with a minuscule amount of nuclear weapons, or even a larger amount unless they wished to risk mutually assured destruction.

To translate to everyone - he is saying he is an

Don't be an idiot.

Very simple, Iran is one of the greatest terrorist nations in thehistory of the world. The US and Europe has offered to help them build nuclear power plants based upon the pressurized water reactor as long as the fuel for those plants is processed elsewhere. Iran has said NO because they don't want a nuclear plant. They want the bomb. I personally favor the destruction of their capacity to build the bomb simply because they are so totally evil.

When you are dealing with Satanic forces there is no alternative. We realized what we had to do with Hitler, and we did it. It is time that history repeats itself.

"Satanic forces"? A bit melodramatic, don't you think?

The U.S. and Europe do not have the right to dictate the manner in which Iran will develop nuclear power, as they are entitled to do under the terms of the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Moreover, what evidence do you have that Iran poses a threat to its neighbors?

 

[editec]

As I've said elsewhere:

Why is it that Iran, for instance, is harassed for attempting to create a nuclear energy program, (which it has the right to do under the terms of the Non-Proliferation Treaty), while Israel refuses to declare the existence of its nuclear weapons program, refuses to sign the NPT, all after having concealed their initial program development from American inspectors? Moreover, why is it that the IAEA never investigates Israel's program? Could it be because of American pressure on the IAEA's board of governors?

One must presume that this is a rhetorical question.