Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.

[P F Tinmore]

WOW, string of deflections.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

WOW, string of deflections.

But enough about you.

 

[USAF 2023]

WOW, string of deflections.

But enough about you.

Now, THAT is FUNNY .

 

[Ropey]

GT the FO...

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

There you go again, making things up (false or inaccurate information) and in a form intended to mislead the readership.

Since you can only occupy sovereign territory, whose sovereign territory did Egypt and Jordan occupy?

(COMMENT)

The legal definition for "occupied territory" has nothing to do with "sovereignty."

​

I suggest you read this definition slowly and pick-out the key criteria. That way you will understand "BS" when you write it.

◈ Actually placed under the authority
◈ Hostile Army
◈ Territory where such has been established and exercise​

If you are missing any of these key criteria, it is not an occupation.

Right off the bat, you can see that the Gaza Strip is NOT occupied territory. Do you see how that works?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
⁜→ ILOVEISRAEL, fncceo, et al,

Well... → this (I think) is rooted in some false idea that the partitioned former enemy territory was conveyed to them by some unknown and undefined mechanism. The Allied Powers assumed control in Armistice of Mudros, the actual surrender of the Ottoman Empire (October 1918) aboard the Battleship HMS Agamemnon (Regions, Islands and other territories outside of Turkey).

He will tell you “ Palestine “.
Ask what Gov’t “ Palestine “ had, who the “ elected officials” were, etc. there is no response

(COMMENT)

Like a broken Record, the Arab Palestinians play this same theme over and over again. And what we are actually a witness to, is the gradual territory that might someday have a functioning Arab government with a Basic Law that is actually followed.

The current Basic Law claimed to be covering the State of Palestine is something just on display. No one actually follows it. Even the Palestinian Legislative Council is a farce in the shadow of the Executive Committee.

Just to be clear, in January of this year, when Fatah’s Central Committee recommended the dissolution of the government. This is a Political Party with that much power, yet unable to actually not the government.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.

⁜→ ILOVEISRAEL, fncceo, et al,

Well... → this (I think) is rooted in some false idea that the partitioned former enemy territory was conveyed to them by some unknown and undefined mechanism. The Allied Powers assumed control in Armistice of Mudros, the actual surrender of the Ottoman Empire (October 1918) aboard the Battleship HMS Agamemnon (Regions, Islands and other territories outside of Turkey).

[QUOTE="ILOVEISRAEL, post: 22435961, member: 35639]
He will tell you “ Palestine “.
Ask what Gov’t “ Palestine “ had, who the “ elected officials” were, etc. there is no response

(COMMENT)

Like a broken Record, the Arab Palestinians play this same theme over and over again. And what we are actually a witness to, is the gradual territory that might someday have a functioning Arab government with a Basic Law that is actually followed.

The current Basic Law claimed to be covering the State of Palestine is something just on display. No one actually follows it. Even the Palestinian Legislative Council is a farce in the shadow of the Executive Committee.

Just to be clear, in January of this year, when Fatah’s Central Committee recommended the dissolution of the government. This is a Political Party with that much power, yet unable to actually not the government.

Most Respectfully,
R

Well... → this (I think) is rooted in some false idea that the partitioned former enemy territory was conveyed to them by some unknown and undefined mechanism.

Yup. If it wasn't Israel, it was automatically Arab territory.

 

[rylah]

Egypt is green on that map?

The Gaza Strip...

What is your point?

View attachment 262318

There was no Palestine in 1946.
Let alone one owned by Arabs.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
⁜→ Toddsterpatriot, et al,

Well, that is not correct either.

Yup. If it wasn't Israel, it was automatically Arab territory.

(REFERENCE)

ARTICLE 16.

Turkey hereby renounces all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories situated outside the frontiers laid down in the present Treaty and the islands other than those over which her sovereignty is recognized by the said Treaty, the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned.

The provisions of the present Article do not prejudice any special arrangements arising from neighborly relations which have been or may be concluded between Turkey and any limitrophe countries.

(COMMENT)

The transfer of authority over the former Ottoman Empire apportionments outside Turkey falls to the Allied Powers when the Turkish Republic "renounces all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories situated outside the frontier."

Then it goes on to say that "the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned.

Under Treaty Law a "party” means a State which has consented to be bound by the treaty and for which the treaty is in force,

No representative of the indigenous Arab inhabitance of the lands under which the Order in Council defined as that which "the Mandate for Palestine applies "(hereinafter described as Palestine)" was a "party" to the treaty.

The indigenous Arab inhabitance of the lands under which the Order in Council covered HAD NO territorial legacy as a result of the breakup of the Ottoman Empire. They are not mentioned in the Treaty other than they become citizens of the self-governing institution which would arise and installed by the Allied Powers.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[rylah]

Did anyone notice the villas of the world's poorest "refugees"?

 

[Hollie]

Did anyone notice the villas of the world's poorest "refugees"?

Such suffering.


luxury in gaza - Bing video

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
※→ rylah, et al,

Yes - I saw it!

Did anyone notice the villas of the world's poorest "refugees"?

See LINK for more images of villas of the impoverished victims

(COMMENT)

I'm sorry. Sometimes my mind fails me (Asperger's Syndrome). What is the connection?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[rylah]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
※→ rylah, et al,

Yes - I saw it!

Did anyone notice the villas of the world's poorest "refugees"?

View attachment 262431
See LINK for more images of villas of the impoverished victims

(COMMENT)

I'm sorry. Sometimes my mind fails me (Asperger's Syndrome). What is the connection?

Most Respectfully,
R

(Turmus Ayya)

(Mazraa ash Sharqiyya)

Did You see the houses in the video?
I might be wrong, but the vandals may chose the locations to cheat Pallywood into exposing exactly that.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
⁜→ Toddsterpatriot, et al,

Well, that is not correct either.

Yup. If it wasn't Israel, it was automatically Arab territory.

(REFERENCE)

ARTICLE 16.

Turkey hereby renounces all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories situated outside the frontiers laid down in the present Treaty and the islands other than those over which her sovereignty is recognized by the said Treaty, the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned.

The provisions of the present Article do not prejudice any special arrangements arising from neighborly relations which have been or may be concluded between Turkey and any limitrophe countries.

(COMMENT)

The transfer of authority over the former Ottoman Empire apportionments outside Turkey falls to the Allied Powers when the Turkish Republic "renounces all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories situated outside the frontier."

Then it goes on to say that "the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned.

Under Treaty Law a "party” means a State which has consented to be bound by the treaty and for which the treaty is in force,

No representative of the indigenous Arab inhabitance of the lands under which the Order in Council defined as that which "the Mandate for Palestine applies "(hereinafter described as Palestine)" was a "party" to the treaty.

The indigenous Arab inhabitance of the lands under which the Order in Council covered HAD NO territorial legacy as a result of the breakup of the Ottoman Empire. They are not mentioned in the Treaty other than they become citizens of the self-governing institution which would arise and installed by the Allied Powers.

Most Respectfully,
R

Well, that is not correct either.

Of course it isn't correct. I'm mocking the stance of Tinny and the rest of the idiots.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
⁜→ ILOVEISRAEL, fncceo, et al,

Well... → this (I think) is rooted in some false idea that the partitioned former enemy territory was conveyed to them by some unknown and undefined mechanism. The Allied Powers assumed control in Armistice of Mudros, the actual surrender of the Ottoman Empire (October 1918) aboard the Battleship HMS Agamemnon (Regions, Islands and other territories outside of Turkey).

He will tell you “ Palestine “.
Ask what Gov’t “ Palestine “ had, who the “ elected officials” were, etc. there is no response

(COMMENT)

Like a broken Record, the Arab Palestinians play this same theme over and over again. And what we are actually a witness to, is the gradual territory that might someday have a functioning Arab government with a Basic Law that is actually followed.

The current Basic Law claimed to be covering the State of Palestine is something just on display. No one actually follows it. Even the Palestinian Legislative Council is a farce in the shadow of the Executive Committee.

Just to be clear, in January of this year, when Fatah’s Central Committee recommended the dissolution of the government. This is a Political Party with that much power, yet unable to actually not the government.

Most Respectfully,
R

Well... → this (I think) is rooted in some false idea that the partitioned former enemy territory was conveyed to them by some unknown and undefined mechanism. The Allied Powers assumed control in Armistice of Mudros,

And the Mandates had a non annexation policy. The territory was transferred directly to the new states.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm sorry to inform you are misinformed yet again... Both the Mandate For Palestine (1922) and the Manual on the Mandate System (1945) are silent on the subject of annexation. In fact, a word search will show the word is not even used once in either document.

And you should also remember that the Allied Powers decided the Article 16 future and the Allied Powers were the proponents for the Mandate.

And the Mandates had a nonannexation policy. The territory was transferred directly to the new states.

(COMMENT)

The only sovereignty which you could be described as "transferred direct" was that of Jordan:

​

The first sentence of Article I says it all. Otherwise, during the Mandate period, no new state was created until the State of Israel (1948).

Nothing was automatic relative to the administration of the Mandates, except as was allowed by the League Council or an Agreement by the responsible Allied Power or Powers.

It should also be noted that the terms of the Mandate System ended on transfer to the UN Trustee System (Article 77a).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm sorry to inform you are misinformed yet again... Both the Mandate For Palestine (1922) and the Manual on the Mandate System (1945) are silent on the subject of annexation. In fact, a word search will show the word is not even used once in either document.

And you should also remember that the Allied Powers decided the Article 16 future and the Allied Powers were the proponents for the Mandate.

And the Mandates had a nonannexation policy. The territory was transferred directly to the new states.

(COMMENT)

The only sovereignty which you could be described as "transferred direct" was that of Jordan:

View attachment 262472
​

The first sentence of Article I says it all. Otherwise, during the Mandate period, no new state was created until the State of Israel (1948).

Nothing was automatic relative to the administration of the Mandates, except as was allowed by the League Council or an Agreement by the responsible Allied Power or Powers.

It should also be noted that the terms of the Mandate System ended on transfer to the UN Trustee System (Article 77a).

Most Respectfully,
R

Where is the agreement for Israel?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm sorry to inform you are misinformed yet again... Both the Mandate For Palestine (1922) and the Manual on the Mandate System (1945) are silent on the subject of annexation. In fact, a word search will show the word is not even used once in either document.

And you should also remember that the Allied Powers decided the Article 16 future and the Allied Powers were the proponents for the Mandate.

And the Mandates had a nonannexation policy. The territory was transferred directly to the new states.

(COMMENT)

The only sovereignty which you could be described as "transferred direct" was that of Jordan:

View attachment 262472
​

The first sentence of Article I says it all. Otherwise, during the Mandate period, no new state was created until the State of Israel (1948).

Nothing was automatic relative to the administration of the Mandates, except as was allowed by the League Council or an Agreement by the responsible Allied Power or Powers.

It should also be noted that the terms of the Mandate System ended on transfer to the UN Trustee System (Article 77a).

Most Respectfully,
R

It should also be noted that the terms of the Mandate System ended on transfer to the UN Trustee System (Article 77a).

Indeed, all of Palestine was transferred to the care of the UN. Neither the Mandates nor the UN held title to the territory therefor neither could transfer the territory to another party.

Britain called Palestine a legal entity and a non self governing territory.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

For the 1000 time...

Where is the agreement for Israel?

(COMMENT)

The offer was A/RES/181 (II) and acceptance was the announcement under the right of self-determination.

The Arab Palestinians rejected their opportunity under 181(II) changing their mind in November 1988.

It should be noted that:

For the Palestinian side, and since the strategic decision to forge a peace on the basis of coexistence, resolution 181 (II) has become acceptable. The resolution provides the legal basis for the existence of both the Jewish and the Arab States in Mandated Palestine.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Israeli settlers set fire, Israel initially blamed Palestinians.
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

For the 1000 time...

Where is the agreement for Israel?

(COMMENT)

The offer was A/RES/181 (II) and acceptance was the announcement under the right of self-determination.

The Arab Palestinians rejected their opportunity under 181(II) changing their mind in November 1988.

It should be noted that:

For the Palestinian side, and since the strategic decision to forge a peace on the basis of coexistence, resolution 181 (II) has become acceptable. The resolution provides the legal basis for the existence of both the Jewish and the Arab States in Mandated Palestine.

Most Respectfully,
R

Let me know when Palestine and Israel sign that document.