Israeli peace activist: Hamas leader Jabari killed amid talks on long-term truce

[Jos]

Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit, says Israel made a mistake that will cost the lives of 'innocent people on both sides.'

Hours before Hamas strongman Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, which included mechanisms for maintaining the cease-fire in the case of a flare-up between Israel and the factions in the Gaza Strip. This, according to Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit

Israeli peace activist: Hamas leader Jabari killed amid talks on long-term truce - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

“According to Baskin,” Haaretz reports, “during the past two years Jabari internalized the realization that the rounds of hostilities with Israel were beneficial neither to Hamas nor to the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip and only caused suffering, and several times he acted to prevent firing by Hamas into Israel.”

Even when Hamas was pulled into participating in rocket fire, its rockets would always land in open spaces. “And that was intentional,” Baskin said.

Israel Approved Killing of Hamas Commander Amid Talks on Long-Term Truce | Global Research

 

[sealadaigh]

Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit, says Israel made a mistake that will cost the lives of 'innocent people on both sides.'

Hours before Hamas strongman Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, which included mechanisms for maintaining the cease-fire in the case of a flare-up between Israel and the factions in the Gaza Strip. This, according to Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit

Israeli peace activist: Hamas leader Jabari killed amid talks on long-term truce - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

“According to Baskin,” Haaretz reports, “during the past two years Jabari internalized the realization that the rounds of hostilities with Israel were beneficial neither to Hamas nor to the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip and only caused suffering, and several times he acted to prevent firing by Hamas into Israel.”

Even when Hamas was pulled into participating in rocket fire, its rockets would always land in open spaces. “And that was intentional,” Baskin said.

Israel Approved Killing of Hamas Commander Amid Talks on Long-Term Truce | Global Research

thank you, Jos.

 

[Lipush]

How do you define a "peace-activist"?

 

[Sunni Man]

The last thing Israel wants is to make a peace deal with the Palestinians.

Because Israel would finally have to declare formal set borders.

And the money and weapons from the U.S. for Israel's protection would dry up.

 

[Hossfly]

The last thing Israel wants is to make a peace deal with the Palestinians.

Because Israel would finally have to declare formal set borders.

And the money and weapons from the U.S. for Israel's protection would dry up.

It looks like Sunni man is admitting that Israel needs protection from his oh so peaceful Muslim brethren who want to destroy Israel. No doubt those Muslims born to the faith or converts like Sunni Man salivate over the idea of Israel being destroyed.

 

[docmauser1]

Hours before Hamas strongman Ahmed Jabari was assassinated, he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, which included mechanisms for maintaining the cease-fire in the case of a flare-up between Israel and the factions in the Gaza Strip. This, according to Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit

Did he "draft" it himself, or was it one draft too many?

 

[MJB12741]

Dear Allah! Please protect us infidels from your followers.

The last thing Israel wants is to make a peace deal with the Palestinians.

Because Israel would finally have to declare formal set borders.

And the money and weapons from the U.S. for Israel's protection would dry up.

It looks like Sunni man is admitting that Israel needs protection from his oh so peaceful Muslim brethren who want to destroy Israel. No doubt those Muslims born to the faith or converts like Sunni Man salivate over the idea of Israel being destroyed.

 

[Jos]

Truce talks

Qassam Count records no rockets on 11 November. This can perhaps be explained by the fact that Palestinian factions were in talks over a truce and were keen to see calm restored.

Israel’s Ynet reported on 11 November:

Egyptian Intelligence officials have successfully brokered an end to the current round of escalation in the south, Ynet learned Sunday. No Israeli source has corroborated the report.

The Ynet reported added:

According to senior Egyptian sources, both Hamas and Islamic Jihad have agreed to hold their fire if Israel suspends its airstrike on Gaza. > Cairo-based sources said that Israel reportedly agreed not to retaliate over sporadic rocket fire from Gaza, as long as it was sans casualties

* Yet on 12 November, two rockets were fired into Israel according to Qassam Count. This came amid two days of air attacks by Israel on the Gaza Strip.

Truce takes hold

Reuters reported on 13 November:

After five days of mounting violence, Israel and the Palestinians stepped back from the brink of a new war in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, sending signals to each other via Egypt that they would hold their fire unless attacked.

The report added:

Ismail Haniyeh, prime minister of Gaza’s Hamas government, praised the main armed factions in the enclave for agreeing on Monday night to a truce. “They showed a high sense of responsibility by saying they would respect calm should the Israeli occupation also abide by it,” he said.

Israel destroys the truce

Yet Israel was not interested in calm.

* On 14 November Israel carried out the extrajudicial killing of Hamas military chief Ahmad al-Jabari.

Reuters noted that the Israeli attack “appeared to end a 24-hour lull in cross-border violence that surged this week.”

The rest is tragic history, some undoubtedly yet to be written in innocent blood.
An Israeli pattern

Israel’s contempt for truces and ceasefires is nothing new. In November 2008, Israel broke a months-long ceasefire, manufacturing a crisis that it then used to justify its December 2008-January 2009 massacre of 1,400 people in Gaza.

Israel has a long, well-documented history of breaking ceasefire after ceasefire, but you would never know it by watching the news or reading, say, The New York Times.

It is also important to keep in mind the context that Israel and Palestinians in Gaza are not symmetrical “sides.” Gaza is a small, impoverished enclave, home to 1.6 million people, some 80 percent of whom are refugees. Gaza is under a tight siege and blockade by Israel, the occupying power.

How Israel shattered Gaza truce leading to escalating death and tragedy: a timeline | The Electronic Intifada

 

[docmauser1]

How Israel shattered Gaza truce leading to escalating death and tragedy: a timeline | The Electronic Intifada

When arabs fire rockets - it's truce; when they get paid in kind - it's a breach of truce, of course.

 

[kvetch]

The battle between Israel and Gaza solves nothing

All the violence in Gaza and Israel will do is sow hatred in the hearts of yet another generation

by johnathan friedland, an English jewish journalist...the guardian

Start with Hamas. One reading assumes that Hamas was punished for its weakness, that it had proved itself no longer capable of reining in the more bellicose groups – Islamic Jihad and others – which operate on the territory it rules. The Haaretz editor, Aluf Benn, put that view starkly when he wrote that far from being a feared enemy, Israel's Osama bin Laden, Ja'abari was Israel's "subcontractor" in Gaza, charged with enforcing the de facto truce. When he stopped doing his job, he had to be removed: "The message was simple and clear: You failed – you're dead," wrote Benn, quoting a favourite saying of defence minister Ehud Barak: "In the Middle East there is no second chance for the weak."

But it's equally possible that this was no accidental escalation by Hamas, born of incompetence, but rather an act of strength by the Islamist movement. A senior Israeli official told me that Israel had long been aware of Hamas's burgeoning military capacity, its hoard of rockets growing – before Wednesday – to some 11,000, closing on the 15,000-strong arsenal amassed by Hezbollah on the eve of 2006's Lebanon war. Much of this arms supply had come from newly lawless Libya – a "goldmine" says the official – the rest from Iran, before relations between Tehran and Hamas cooled. (Iran was angered when Gaza's rulers broke from Tehran's number one ally, the Assad regime.) Hamas's arm is now more muscled and with a longer reach, as it graphically demonstrated last night, when rockets landed perilously close to Israel's central city, Tel Aviv – the first missiles to do so since the Gulf war of 1991.

 

[georgephillip]

Uri Avnery on Another Superfluous War:

"How did it start? Stupid question.

"Conflagrations along the Gaza Strip don’t start. They are just a continuous chain of events, each claimed to be a [or 'in'] 'retaliation' for the previous one. Action is followed by reaction, which is followed by retaliation, which is followed by …

"This particular event 'started' with the firing from Gaza of an anti-tank weapon at a partially armored jeep on the Israeli side of the border fence. It was described as retaliation for the killing of a boy in an air attack some days earlier. But probably the timing of the action was accidental – the opportunity just presented itself.

"The success gave rise to demonstrations of joy and pride in Gaza. Again Palestinians had shown their ability to strike at the hated enemy.

"However, the Palestinians had in fact walked into a trap prepared with great care. Whether the order was given by Hamas or one of the smaller more extreme organizations – it was not a clever thing to do.

"Shooting across the fence at an army vehicle was crossing a red line. (The Middle East is full of red lines.) A major Israeli reaction was sure to ensue.

"It was rather routine. Israeli tanks fired cannon shells into the Gaza Strip. Hamas launched rockets at Israeli towns and villages. Hundreds of thousands of Israelis rushed to their shelters. Schools closed.

"As usual, Egyptian and other mediators went into action. Behind the scenes, a new truce was arranged. It seemed to be over. Just another round.

"The Israeli side did everything to get back to normal. Or so it seemed. The Prime Minister and the Defense Minister went out of their way (to the Syrian border) to show that Gaza was off their minds.

In Gaza, everybody relaxed. They left their shelters. Their supreme military commander, Ahmad Ja’abari, climbed into his car and drove along the main street.

"And then the trap closed. The car bearing the commander was blown up by a missile from the air."

Another Superfluous War » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

 

[irosie91]

your point? any idiot can do what uri avneri does------monday morning quarter backing. Its fun but it is nothing more than mental auto eroticism I have seen the same technique used to describe why the bombing of PEARL HARBOR----was purposely provoked by the USA because there were "WAR MONGERS" in the USA excited to get into the fray----and ROOSEVELT KNEW IT---------anyone can play that game-----with just about any EVENT

 

[proudveteran06]

The last thing Israel wants is to make a peace deal with the Palestinians.

Because Israel would finally have to declare formal set borders.

And the money and weapons from the U.S. for Israel's protection would dry up.

You mean the 1967 Borders that were Never recognized before Plus " Right of Return?" You are right. That is the last thing they will do and will never do. The last thing the Palestinians want to do is make peace with Israel which is why they are demanding the impossible




GAZA CITY, Gaza, May 11 (UPI) -- A Hamas official says the militant group will never recognize Israel as it would deprive future Palestinian generations of the right to "liberate the land."

Mahmoud Zahar said Wednesday Hamas would be willing to accept a Palestinian state "on any part of Palestine," marking the first time Hamas has publicly stepped back from its stated goal of a Palestinian state "from the [Jordan] river to the [Mediterranean] sea," The Jerusalem Post reported.

However, Zahar said, Hamas would not recognize Israel, because doing so would "cancel the right of the next generation to liberate the land."

Recognition of Israel could lead to Palestinian refugees losing their right of return, he said.

"What will be the fate of the 5 million Palestinians in the diaspora?" Zahar asked.

Zahar's statements come amid efforts by former Palestinian rivals Fatah and Hamas to form a unity government after they signed a reconciliation agreement in Cairo last week, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported.

On Tuesday, a top Palestinian official said a unity government would be formed in 10 days


Let them keep insisting on " Right of Return" lol

 

[georgephillip]

your point? any idiot can do what uri avneri does------monday morning quarter backing. Its fun but it is nothing more than mental auto eroticism I have seen the same technique used to describe why the bombing of PEARL HARBOR----was purposely provoked by the USA because there were "WAR MONGERS" in the USA excited to get into the fray----and ROOSEVELT KNEW IT---------anyone can play that game-----with just about any EVENT

You're living proof of the propaganda value useful idiots who suck every kosher dick that swings into range provide to the "chosen people."
Israel has been purposely practicing "creeping annexation" and "creeping transfer" of all Palestine between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River for generations. Creepy tools like YOU swallow every load. Every time.

 

[docmauser1]

Uri Avnery on Another Superfluous War:"How did it start? Stupid question.

Stupid Avnery, of course.

 

[georgephillip]

Uri Avnery on Another Superfluous War:"How did it start? Stupid question.

Stupid Avnery, of course.

Drivel the dim-wit:

"Such an assassination is not carried out on the spur of the moment. It is the culmination of many months of preparation, gathering of information, waiting for the right moment, when it could be executed without killing many bystanders and causing an international scandal.

"Actually, it was due to take place a day earlier, but postponed because of the bad weather.

"Ja’abari was the man behind all the military activities of the Hamas government in Gaza, including the capture of Gilad Shalit and the successful five-year long hiding of his whereabouts. He was photographed at the release of Shalit to the Egyptians.

"So this time it was the Israelis who were jubilant. Much like the Americans after the Osama bin-Laden assassination.

"The killing of Ja’abari was the sign for starting the planned operation.

"The Gaza Strip is full of missiles. Some of them are able to reach Tel Aviv..."

Another Superfluous War » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

 

[docmauser1]

Uri Avnery on Another Superfluous War:"How did it start? Stupid question.

Stupid Avnery, of course.

"Such an assassination is not carried out on the spur of the moment. It is the culmination of many months of preparation, gathering of information, waiting for the right moment, when it could be executed without killing many bystanders and causing an international scandal.

Excellent. To the dog his due, of course. And, bth., Avnery's still an idiot.

 

[georgephillip]

Because he doesn't condone stealing his neighbors' land and water rights?

 

[irosie91]

avneri lives by stealing-----he has hardly worked a day in his life

 

[proudveteran06]

your point? any idiot can do what uri avneri does------monday morning quarter backing. Its fun but it is nothing more than mental auto eroticism I have seen the same technique used to describe why the bombing of PEARL HARBOR----was purposely provoked by the USA because there were "WAR MONGERS" in the USA excited to get into the fray----and ROOSEVELT KNEW IT---------anyone can play that game-----with just about any EVENT

You're living proof of the propaganda value useful idiots who suck every kosher dick that swings into range provide to the "chosen people."
Israel has been purposely practicing "creeping annexation" and "creeping transfer" of all Palestine between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River for generations. Creepy tools like YOU swallow every load. Every time.

Don't see any Pro- Israeli here claiming they are the " Chosen People". Leave it to a Jew Hating SCUMBAG to start with Vile posts and lies. Notice how Jew Hating Dick doesn't condemn the F**KING TOWELHEADS who believe Israel doesn't have the right to exist? Where was " Palestine" before 1967??? This poster obviously LOVES Non Kosher S**M