Israeli Citizenship vs Nationality

[georgephillip]

Does anyone dispute...

"In Israel Citizenship and nationality are two different things.

"Citizenship (ezrahut) may be held by Arabs or Jews.

"Nationality (le'um), bestows much greater rights than citizenship, is for Jews alone.

"In 1972 the Supreme Court that non-Jews cannot qualify for nationality rights in the state of Israel because there is no Israeli nation separate from the Jewish people.

"nationality (plural nationalities)

1. Membership of a particular nation or state, by origin, birth, naturalization, ownership, allegiance or otherwise.
2. National, i.e. ethnic and/or cultural, character or identity.
3. A people sharing a common origin, culture and/or language, and possibly constituting a nation-state.
4. Political existence, independence or unity as a national entity."

 

[Ropey]

Speaking only for myself, I think my obsession with Israel and Jews...

Obsession is an illness George​

 

[georgephillip]

Is this obsessive or accurate?

"The Israeli 'democracy' that the Fundamentalist/Christian Zionists so devotedly support is a theocratic-racist state.

"It is a Jewish/Zionist state devoted exclusively to the culture, interests, heritage and religion of the Jewish people.

"Immigration is based on being Jewish.

"Any Jew (on the planet?) can claim citizenship while Palestinians who lived there for decades and were expelled in an ethnic cleansing and to this day are denied the right to return to their homeland.

Israel:

 

[georgephillip]

Red rules.
Green drools.

Are you a citizen or national of Israel?

Do you agree with the proposed amendment to Israel's citizenship law that would require all newly naturalized citizens to "...declare loyalty to the Jewish character of the state?"

Would this be like Britain requiring Jews, Muslims and atheists applying for citizenship to pledge loyalty to the Church of England?

Thoughcrimes

 

[Ropey]

You are obsessive George. It matters not what you post. You post all over this site with a spewal of human hatred that has you so down in the red as a troll that nothing you post has any significance.

 

[georgephillip]

Why are you afraid of simple questions?

Your "book"?

 

[Ropey]

 

[Jos]

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[Ropey]

More Palestinian Citizens.



What is seen...

 

[High_Gravity]

I thought citizenship and nationality were the same thing?

 

[Ropey]

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For your Jew hatred and seeing only one side. More to come....

For your trolling of Jews on this forum. You've Hooked one.

 

[Jos]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jos View Post
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you have received -25 reputation points from Ropey.
Reputation was given for this post.
For your Jew hatred and seeing only one side. More to come....
For pointing out the source of the hate... you run from the truth?

John 8:44

"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

 

[P F Tinmore]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqIIxn-hMBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wnRAMmGWuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owMoT1MKXDQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOVhTFOPKxc

More Palestinian Citizens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b2QhQQpHck

What is seen...

The Palestinians stopped suicide bombing years ago.

You need to update your propaganda.

 

[Ropey]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jos View Post
PMW.org.il = palwatch, Shraga Simmons hate site Shraga Simmons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you have received -25 reputation points from Ropey.
Reputation was given for this post.
For your Jew hatred and seeing only one side. More to come....
For pointing out the source of the hate... you run from the truth?

John 8:44

"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

No. For you attacking a singular side with hate.

But mostly for you trolling Jews on this forum, bothering them, pretending to be a friend and then finding their personal information, contacting them...

Want me to go on?

 

[Ropey]

More Palestinian Citizens.



What is seen...

The Palestinians stopped suicide bombing years ago.

You need to update your propaganda.

Because we built the wall. But they are still dressing and training to kill us and that's what is being seen. Look at the dates. Caught at the checkpoints still trying to get in and they do kill our soldiers when they try to get in with their explosives.

 

[Sunni Man]

You are obsessive George. It matters not what you post. You post all over this site with a spewal of human hatred that has you so down in the red as a troll that nothing you post has any significance.

Is what he posted true Ropey?

As an Israeli Jew you should know the answer to this threads allegations.

 

[Ropey]

I do not respond to trolls Sunni Man, not with two way discussion or intelligence at any rate.

Do you have a question to ask me?

Ask away...

By the way, I understand that you are willing to get on the George hate bus when it is Jews, but otherwise you do not seem to be on that bus.

You are transparent.

But George is simply a hate troll on all venues.

 

[Sunni Man]

Please respond to me if this is true or not Ropey?


"In Israel Citizenship and nationality are two different things.

"Citizenship (ezrahut) may be held by Arabs or Jews.

"Nationality (le'um), bestows much greater rights than citizenship, is for Jews alone.

"In 1972 the Supreme Court that non-Jews cannot qualify for nationality rights in the state of Israel because there is no Israeli nation separate from the Jewish people.

 

[Ropey]

Please respond to me if this is true or not Ropey?


"In Israel Citizenship and nationality are two different things.

"Citizenship (ezrahut) may be held by Arabs or Jews.

"Nationality (le'um), bestows much greater rights than citizenship, is for Jews alone.

"In 1972 the Supreme Court that non-Jews cannot qualify for nationality rights in the state of Israel because there is no Israeli nation separate from the Jewish people.

Israel is a country of seven million plus people of which twenty percent are Arabs and ~five percent being non Muslim Arabs, Christians, etc.

Israel is a Democracy surrounded by Six Hundred Million Arabs who mostly would like this country destroyed.

You included Sunny Man. You even extend this destruction of Israel to include moving the Jews Worldwide to an Island and keeping them their by force of arms.

I am not anti-semitic at all.

And actually worry that people will finally get fed up with the Jews and cause them harm. History has shown this to be the case over and over;

NONE are even close to a Democracy.


as Jews have been killed and driven out of countless countries throughout history.

My solution to the Jewish problem.

Would be to round them up world wide and find and island to quarantine them on.

There are several islands in the world that could easily contain the 13 million Jews that currently reside in various nations and Israel.

This way the Jews could build the ultimate Hebrew society they have always dreamed of.

Several gun boats would patrol the waters around the island to prevent any Jews from trying to escape.

This way the Jews could be protected from harm; and the world could finally have peace and security.

Thus a Win = Win for both Jews and Gentiles

Israel will not fall to the attempts to render it dissolute.

You have posted the times when Jews were slaughtered by other countries.

Why does this keep happening?

Seriously.

What do the Jews do that keeps making people want to kill them and drive them out of their countries??

109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250

YEAR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .PLACE

250 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Carthage
415 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alexandria
554 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocèse of Clermont (France)
561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocèse of Uzès (France)
612 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Spain
642 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Empire
855 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
876 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sens
1012 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1276 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Upper Bavaria
1290 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - England
1306 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1322 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France (again)
1348 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Switzerland
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hielbronn (Germany)
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Saxony
1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1360 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1370 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Belgium
1380 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1388 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany
1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1420 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lyons
1421 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Fribourg
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Zurich
1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cologne
1432 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Savoy
1438 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1439 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Augsburg
1442 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1444 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1446 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France
1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Breslau
1454 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1462 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1483 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz
1484 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1485 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vincenza (Italy)
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spain
1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy
1495 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Portugal
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nuremberg
1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Navarre
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenberg
1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prussia
1514 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg
1515 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1519 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Regensburg
1533 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1541 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples
1542 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague & Bohemia
1550 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa
1551 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria
1555 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pesaro
1557 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1559 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria
1561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague
1567 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg
1569 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Papal States
1571 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands
1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary
1593 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg, Austria
1597 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cremona, Pavia & Lodi
1614 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frankfort
1615 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Worms
1619 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kiev
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ukraine
1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Poland
1649 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hamburg
1654 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1656 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Oran (North Africa)
1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1670 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna
1712 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sandomir
1727 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1738 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurtemburg
1740 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague, Bohemia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia
1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Livonia
1745 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moravia
1753 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kovad (Lithuania)
1761 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bordeaux
1772 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia)
1775 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw
1789 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alsace
1804 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages in Russia
1808 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages & Countrysides (Russia)
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lbeck & Bremen
1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria
1820 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bremen
1843 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russian Border Austria & Prussia
1862 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Areas in the U.S. under General Grant's Jurisdiction[1]
1866 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Galatz, Romania
1880s - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia
1891 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moscow
1919 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria (foreign born Jews)
1938-45 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nazi Controlled Areas
1948 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Arab Countries

109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250

So, clearly there is a reason why Israel opens the door to all the worlds Jews in case the above is happening again.

You want all Jews gone Sunni Man, so it is understandable you post like you do.

But the Jews and others of Israel have the same citizenship. The only difference is that Arabians do not have to enter the military if they do not want to do so.

But you are clear Sunni Man.

 

[P F Tinmore]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqIIxn-hMBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wnRAMmGWuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owMoT1MKXDQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOVhTFOPKxc

More Palestinian Citizens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b2QhQQpHck

What is seen...

The Palestinians stopped suicide bombing years ago.

You need to update your propaganda.

Because we built the wall. But they are still dressing and training to kill us and that's what is being seen. Look at the dates. Caught at the checkpoints still trying to get in and they do kill our soldiers when they try to get in with their explosives.

Foreign troops are legitimate targets. That is perfectly legal.