Israel Wants $5B a Year in American Aid

[Phoenall]

Israel and US look to heal relationship as Netanyahu visits Washington

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I just did and found them the usual liberal pinkos that are the only people allowed to comment on Grauniad editorials now. Anyone even faintly pro Israel is banned from making comments

 

[fanger]

A 10-year, $30 billion military aid package signed under the Bush Administration is set to expire soon, and Obama made clear a new decade-long package was a “top priority,” with experts saying the talks are expected to put in place a package worth “substantially more” than the expiring one.

Israeli officials have made no secret their intention to get a massive increase above the previous deal, with the most recent talks late last week suggesting Netanyahu was looking for at least $50 billion over the next 10 years. US officials had previously suggested the deal would be in the $36-$37 billion range.

In addition to the new decade-long package, the US and Israel are also negotiating a one-off deal as “reparations” for Israel’s objections to the Iran nuclear deal, a package which itself is expected to be worth several billion dollars.

Obama, Netanyahu Agree to Replace $30 Billion Arms Deal With ‘Substantially More’

America will pay the Tax imposed on them

 

[Vikrant]

Money to the Military Industrial Complex is always a net loss. It always cost more than you get back.

Not always, and in this case spending $3 billion on Israel who have to buy American goods with the money is a net gain for the US. Imagine losing all that money from a companies income, it would set alarm bells ringing and send the stocks into free fall. This would result in other buyers shying away because they would see the product as inferior, so lay offs would be the order of the day. Then the knock on effect would be shop workers laid off, then medical professionals would be idle and have to move elsewhere.
A good example of money to the Military is the strides forward in plastic surgery that is now a multi billion dollar business, this has netted a gain for every nation on taxes paid alone. All because money was spent on Military matters, Look back and see how much more has been made from Military expenditure over the years, silly things like microwaves and cell phones

Not really. $3B gets sucked out of our economy but not all of that goes back in.

Wrong as much more is paid back in than is paid out in real terms, you forget the clauses attached to that aid that means that Israel has to buy American at full price while others get big discounts. If your local shop lent you $100 but said you had to spend it in the shop without getting any discounts would you be willing to accept that ? When everyone else is getting £125 of goods for their $100 and you only get $100 of goods. Spend elsewhere or don't spend at all and the shop wants $200 back so you lose either way

You really do not know how the Military Industrial Complex works.

I know better than you ever will as it still has to justify every penny

There is a difference between what you think you know vs what you actually know

 

[Phoenall]

Not always, and in this case spending $3 billion on Israel who have to buy American goods with the money is a net gain for the US. Imagine losing all that money from a companies income, it would set alarm bells ringing and send the stocks into free fall. This would result in other buyers shying away because they would see the product as inferior, so lay offs would be the order of the day. Then the knock on effect would be shop workers laid off, then medical professionals would be idle and have to move elsewhere.
A good example of money to the Military is the strides forward in plastic surgery that is now a multi billion dollar business, this has netted a gain for every nation on taxes paid alone. All because money was spent on Military matters, Look back and see how much more has been made from Military expenditure over the years, silly things like microwaves and cell phones

Not really. $3B gets sucked out of our economy but not all of that goes back in.

Wrong as much more is paid back in than is paid out in real terms, you forget the clauses attached to that aid that means that Israel has to buy American at full price while others get big discounts. If your local shop lent you $100 but said you had to spend it in the shop without getting any discounts would you be willing to accept that ? When everyone else is getting £125 of goods for their $100 and you only get $100 of goods. Spend elsewhere or don't spend at all and the shop wants $200 back so you lose either way

You really do not know how the Military Industrial Complex works.

I know better than you ever will as it still has to justify every penny

There is a difference between what you think you know vs what you actually know

Correct and as I said I know more than tinman on this subject as I was trained for the task.