Israel Superior To Entire Islamic World

[patrickcaturday]

First to answer Intuitions question. What you write is a very simple answer to an extremely complicated question. Quick answer is that The Church played a role by exerting outside pressure, however a greater pressure was excerted by The Mongols ! While The Church struck at the periphery , The Mongols struck at the heart of the Islamic Empire. This caused the fall of The Golden age in several ways, the most important are these
1 ) the burning of libraries and books caused the loss of the foundations of their arts and sciences. Of course some still remained but combined with the destruction of their schools this closed the environment where learning could occur.
2 ) the internal pressures of massive growth also caused the dissolution of the empire thus ending government support for the arts and sciences.

If you will notice these reasons are pretty much the same as the ones that caused the downfall of the Greek and Roman Golden Age, and led us into our Dark Ages.


To Mr. Stone;
Please provide some link or source material to support your outrageous claims. Or are you just showing your bigottry, racism, and lack of knowledge again. A lot of western science is based upon the work of Islamic Scientists.

Below you will find a small sampleing of Islamic Scientists that changed the world. Somehow I think that you will neither read them nor acknowledge them, however I may be suprised. Please note that they are not Jews or Christian dhimmis

Omar Khayyám
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Omar Khayyám
عمر خیام
A depiction of Omar Khayyám, in the works of Edward FitzGerald
Full name Omar Khayyám
عمر خیام
Born 15 May[1] 1048[2]
Died 1131 (aged 82/83)[2]
School Persian mathematics, Persian poetry, Persian philosophy
Main interests Mathematics, Philosophy, Astronomy, Poetry,
Influenced by[show]
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, Avicenna

Influenced[show]
Attar of Nishapur


Omar Khayyám (1048–1131; Persian: ‏عمر خیام*) was a Persian polymath: philosopher, mathematician, astronomer and poet. He also wrote treatises on mechanics, geography, mineralogy, music, climatology and theology.[3]
Born in Nishapur, at a young age he moved to Samarkand and obtained his education there, afterwards he moved to Bukhara and became established as one of the major mathematicians and astronomers of the medieval period. He is the author of one of the most important treatises on algebra written before modern times, the Treatise on Demonstration of Problems of Algebra, which includes a geometric method for solving cubic equations by intersecting a hyperbola with a circle.[4] He contributed to a calendar reform.

Omar Khayyám - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


A. Chemistry and Alchemy
Jabir Ibn Haiyan, known in Europe by the name Geber, is generally known as the Father of Chemistry. He was one of the leading scientists in Kufa (in present day Iraq) around 776 C.E. In his early days, he was supported by the advisor to the Abbasid Caliph. Jabir died in Kufa in 803 C.E.
Jabir's (Geber's) major contribution was in the field of Chemistry. He is famous for writing twenty-two books on chemistry and alchemy. He introduced experimental investigation into alchemy which led to modern Chemistry. Jabir emphasized experimentation and development of methods to show the same result when an experiment was repeated. He developed basic chemical methods and the study of various chemical reactions and thus helped develop chemistry as a science and away from the legends and "magic" of alchemy.
[Note: Alchemy was an early "science" - or was it magic?

Part II: Advances Made by Muslims in Science


Alhazen
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Alhazen

Alhazen (Ibn al-Haytham)
Born July 1, 965(965-07-01) CE[1] (354 AH)[2]
Basra in present-day Iraq, Buyid Persia
Died March 6, 1040(1040-03-06) (aged 74)[1] (430 AH)[3]
Cairo, Egypt, Fatimid Caliphate
Residence Basra
Cairo
Fields physicist and Mathematician
Known for Book of Optics, Doubts Concerning Ptolemy, On the Configuration of the World, The Model of the Motions, Treatise on Light, Treatise on Place, scientific method, experimental science, experimental physics, experimental psychology, visual perception, analytic geometry, non-Ptolemaic astronomy, celestial mechanics
Influences Aristotle, Euclid, Ptolemy
Influenced Averroes, Witelo, Roger Bacon, Kepler
This article contains Persian text, written from right to left with some letters joined. Without proper rendering support, you may see unjoined letters written left-to-right, instead of right-to-left or other symbols instead of Persian script.

Abū ʿAlī al-Ḥasan ibn al-Ḥasan ibn al-Haytham (Arabic: أبو علي، الحسن بن الحسن بن الهيثم, Persian: ابن هیثم, Latinized: Alhacen or (deprecated)[4] Alhazen) (965 in Basra – c. 1040 in Cairo) was a Muslim,[5] scientist and polymath described in various sources as either Arabic or Persian.[6][7][8][9][10][11] He is frequently referred to as Ibn al-Haytham, and sometimes as al-Basri (Arabic: البصر&#1610, after his birthplace in the city of Basra.[12] Alhazen made significant contributions to the principles of optics, as well as to physics, astronomy, mathematics, ophthalmology, philosophy, visual perception, and to the scientific method. He was also nicknamed Ptolemaeus Secundus ("Ptolemy the Second")[13] or simply "The Physicist"[14] in medieval Europe. Alhazen wrote insightful commentaries on works by Aristotle, Ptolemy, and the Greek mathematician Euclid.[15

Alhazen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

This is Mr. Stones responce to my above post ! I doubt that due to the shortness of time that it took for him to respond he even read it.. His rerponce shows an extreme lack of intelectual ability and curiosty along with his penchant for being a bigot ! If he continues in this way I will not bother to respond to him !

Arab Author Nidhal Naisa: "Arabs Are Good For Nothing"

Quote:
Nobody bothers to kick a dead cat. Unfortunately, the Arabs, to some extent, are dead cats. Who would even bother to give these dead cats a kick? They are good for nothing. You cannot rely on them. They turn their backs on one another. They fight one another.

Yesterday, an Arab summit was held, but 8 leaders did not show up. They officially boycotted the summit.

Some people say that the Arabs have contributed in some way to civilization, but their only contribution was the invention of the zero. Unfortunately, they remain at the zero phase and have not moved on. In fact, they remain below zero and have not made any significant contribution to human civilization.

I am very happy and proud that the Arabs recently produced
the largest plate of hummus, pickles or tbouli salad. That is all they care about: fried pastries, pickles, baba ghanoush. This is what they are good at: cotton candy, shanklish or beet kibbeh
Arabs Are Good For Nothing - YouTube
Arabs Are Good For Nothing - YouTube

__________________

 

[JStone]

Arab Writer Adonis: "Arabs Are An Extinct Culture"

We [Arabs] have become extinct," said Syrian poet Adonis in a March 11 Dubai television interview... The prognosis by Adonis, the only Arabic writer on the Nobel Prize short list, for the Arab prospect has become more bleak over the years.

"We have become extinct ... We have the masses of people, but a people becomes extinct when it no longer has a creative capacity, and the capacity to change its world ... The great Sumerians became extinct, the great Greeks became extinct, and the Pharaohs became extinct," he said.
Asia Times Online :: Middle East News - Are the Arabs already extinct?

Adonis

A word in the Arab world today is treated as a crime.
What is happening in the Arab world today has never been witnessed in its history You make a statement and its as if you've committed a crime and the opinion is treated as if it is a crime against the law. This is inconceivable. You can be jailed because of an article.

The conditions necessary for democracy are not present in Arab society. There are people who are afraid of freedom...because it is a great burden to be free. It is not something easy. When we are slaves, we do not have to worry about anything and just as God solves all of our problems, the Dictator will solve all of our problems.

I do not understand what goes on in Arab society today In comparing what the Arabs have done in the last 100 years, with what has been achieved by others in the same period, all I can say is that we Arabs are in a period of extinction. Extinction meaning that we no longer have a creative or innovative presence on the world state.

We [Arabs] are extinct.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2Y2ZcfUIZU]Arab Thinker: Your Opinion is a Crime in the Arab World - YouTube[/ame]

 

[patrickcaturday]

First to answer Intuitions question. What you write is a very simple answer to an extremely complicated question. Quick answer is that The Church played a role by exerting outside pressure, however a greater pressure was excerted by The Mongols ! While The Church struck at the periphery , The Mongols struck at the heart of the Islamic Empire. This caused the fall of The Golden age in several ways, the most important are these
1 ) the burning of libraries and books caused the loss of the foundations of their arts and sciences. Of course some still remained but combined with the destruction of their schools this closed the environment where learning could occur.
2 ) the internal pressures of massive growth also caused the dissolution of the empire thus ending government support for the arts and sciences.

If you will notice these reasons are pretty much the same as the ones that caused the downfall of the Greek and Roman Golden Age, and led us into our Dark Ages.


To Mr. Stone;
Please provide some link or source material to support your outrageous claims. Or are you just showing your bigottry, racism, and lack of knowledge again. A lot of western science is based upon the work of Islamic Scientists.

Below you will find a small sampleing of Islamic Scientists that changed the world. Somehow I think that you will neither read them nor acknowledge them, however I may be suprised. Please note that they are not Jews or Christian dhimmis

Omar Khayyám
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
"Khayyam" redirects here. For other uses, see Khayyam (disambiguation).
Omar Khayyám
عمر خیام
A depiction of Omar Khayyám, in the works of Edward FitzGerald
Full name Omar Khayyám
عمر خیام
Born 15 May[1] 1048[2]
Died 1131 (aged 82/83)[2]
School Persian mathematics, Persian poetry, Persian philosophy
Main interests Mathematics, Philosophy, Astronomy, Poetry,
Influenced by[show]
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, Avicenna

Influenced[show]
Attar of Nishapur


Omar Khayyám (1048–1131; Persian: ‏عمر خیام*) was a Persian polymath: philosopher, mathematician, astronomer and poet. He also wrote treatises on mechanics, geography, mineralogy, music, climatology and theology.[3]
Born in Nishapur, at a young age he moved to Samarkand and obtained his education there, afterwards he moved to Bukhara and became established as one of the major mathematicians and astronomers of the medieval period. He is the author of one of the most important treatises on algebra written before modern times, the Treatise on Demonstration of Problems of Algebra, which includes a geometric method for solving cubic equations by intersecting a hyperbola with a circle.[4] He contributed to a calendar reform.

Omar Khayyám - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


A. Chemistry and Alchemy
Jabir Ibn Haiyan, known in Europe by the name Geber, is generally known as the Father of Chemistry. He was one of the leading scientists in Kufa (in present day Iraq) around 776 C.E. In his early days, he was supported by the advisor to the Abbasid Caliph. Jabir died in Kufa in 803 C.E.
Jabir's (Geber's) major contribution was in the field of Chemistry. He is famous for writing twenty-two books on chemistry and alchemy. He introduced experimental investigation into alchemy which led to modern Chemistry. Jabir emphasized experimentation and development of methods to show the same result when an experiment was repeated. He developed basic chemical methods and the study of various chemical reactions and thus helped develop chemistry as a science and away from the legends and "magic" of alchemy.
[Note: Alchemy was an early "science" - or was it magic?

Part II: Advances Made by Muslims in Science


Alhazen
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
For the Moon crater, see Alhazen (crater). For the asteroid, see 59239 Alhazen.
Alhazen

Alhazen (Ibn al-Haytham)
Born July 1, 965(965-07-01) CE[1] (354 AH)[2]
Basra in present-day Iraq, Buyid Persia
Died March 6, 1040(1040-03-06) (aged 74)[1] (430 AH)[3]
Cairo, Egypt, Fatimid Caliphate
Residence Basra
Cairo
Fields physicist and Mathematician
Known for Book of Optics, Doubts Concerning Ptolemy, On the Configuration of the World, The Model of the Motions, Treatise on Light, Treatise on Place, scientific method, experimental science, experimental physics, experimental psychology, visual perception, analytic geometry, non-Ptolemaic astronomy, celestial mechanics
Influences Aristotle, Euclid, Ptolemy
Influenced Averroes, Witelo, Roger Bacon, Kepler
This article contains Persian text, written from right to left with some letters joined. Without proper rendering support, you may see unjoined letters written left-to-right, instead of right-to-left or other symbols instead of Persian script.

Abū ʿAlī al-Ḥasan ibn al-Ḥasan ibn al-Haytham (Arabic: أبو علي، الحسن بن الحسن بن الهيثم, Persian: ابن هیثم, Latinized: Alhacen or (deprecated)[4] Alhazen) (965 in Basra – c. 1040 in Cairo) was a Muslim,[5] scientist and polymath described in various sources as either Arabic or Persian.[6][7][8][9][10][11] He is frequently referred to as Ibn al-Haytham, and sometimes as al-Basri (Arabic: البصر&#1610, after his birthplace in the city of Basra.[12] Alhazen made significant contributions to the principles of optics, as well as to physics, astronomy, mathematics, ophthalmology, philosophy, visual perception, and to the scientific method. He was also nicknamed Ptolemaeus Secundus ("Ptolemy the Second")[13] or simply "The Physicist"[14] in medieval Europe. Alhazen wrote insightful commentaries on works by Aristotle, Ptolemy, and the Greek mathematician Euclid.[15

Alhazen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

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Mr Stone please stop with the spam and adress the issues of my post You told me ( without merit ) once to read and learn, now I tell you ( with merit ) read an open your mind

 

[JStone]

Arab Author Anwar Malek: Arabs Are Losers

The Arabs are afflicted with fantasies and obsolete bravado. False, empty bravado, which does no good to anybody. The Arabs invented or discovered the zero--but what did they do with it? Some of them sat on it, some put it on their heads, while others wore it around their waists and began shaking their hips, their belies, and their breasts in order to sell to the world the idea that modern Arabs are doing something

Today, the Arabs constitute nothing but thousands of zeros to the left. The Arabs have lost their worth, their humanity, their culture, and everything. There is nothing to suggest that the Arabs can be relied upon to produce anything. This false bravado is deeply rooted in the Arabs to an unimaginable degree. It is so deeply rooted that the Arabs believe they can go to the moon. If you asked your viewers whether the Arabs would be able to reach the moon by 2015, they would say, "Yes, the Arabs will get to the moon" By Allah, the Arabs will not go more than a few hundred kilometers from their doorsteps.

In all honesty, the Arabs are backward and are not fit for civilization at all. I am talking about the Arabs of today who have begun to export shawarma, falafel and lupin beans to Europe and they purport to be bringing something Arab to Europe

the reality of the Arabs is one of defeat, hitting rock bottom We are defeated, politically and militarily and economically, socially, and even psychologically. We have a discourse of conspiracy, and we blame everything on others. Take Egypt--What does Egypt--that superpower--have to offer? Nothing, it is incapable of doing anything. It has nothing but lupin beans. It is incapable of anything.

Look at how the Arabs live in the West. By Allah, they are a bad example. If you hear about thieves, they are always Arabs. Whenever a young man harasses a girl on the streets of London or Paris, he turns out to be an Arab. All the negative moral values are to be found in the Arab individual

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYgrziadQIo]Algerian author Anwar Malek talks about the arab world. - YouTube[/ame]

 

[patrickcaturday]

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After your last responce all I have to say is GOODBY AND HAVE A NICE LIFE , you bigot !!!

 

[JStone]

After your last responce all I have to say is GOODBY AND HAVE A NICE LIFE , you bigot !!!

allah is not so great, after all, eh?