Israel Snubs U.S.

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  1. Orange_Juice
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    The expansionist Israel state is again on the march, I see

    From the UK Independent:

     
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    I SO don't get why the Israeli government insists on putting settlements in the PA lands.

    Do they WANT those Israeli to be targets for radical Arabs!?

    I suspect that the population Israeli, like the USA is ambivilant about what it really wants.

    I don't follow polling of the Isreali people, but I would not be surprised to learn that their population is as divided on these issues as the US population seems to be.

    Anyone have any credible information about Isreali sentiments?
     
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    Perhaps you should read the actual facts instead of the anti-Israel spin?

    I have no doubt that Israel will do things to pressure a settlement, but on the other hand, from the same article:

    Israel relaunches plan for West Bank settlement in snub to US - Middle East, World - The Independent


    BTW, before you pounce, I don't think there should be settlements either.
     
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    When you post an article, post a link please.
     
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    absolutely. It perpetuated the Martyr excuse for expansionism.
     
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    Not a bad idea.

    Put pressure on? Yeah, you see... that's exactly what I don't get.

    How about just flat out saying "DON'T DO IT."

    Israel relaunches plan for West Bank settlement in snub to US - Middle East, World - The Independent


    BTW, before you pounce, I don't think there should be settlements either.[/quote]

    I had no plan to pounce.

    I don't presume to know your positions on things until you tell me what they are pretty damned specifically since it is clear to me that you think in thoughtful naunces no less than I and other here usually do.

    Isn't that obvious by now?

    And If I think somebody is an unthinking partisan given to excessive blather, I'm reasonably sure they'll hang themselves without my help, Jill.

    I may sell them rope, though.

    Freedom of speech.

    It's a double edged sword.
     
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    Okay...thanks to Jill's link I got to read the article.

    Putting aside the obvious editorial bias one finds in the article, it DOES look like the Isreali government is giving support to the establishment of these settlements.

    Assuming this is not pure disinformation..

    I have to say I do not understand why on earth the Israeli government does this sort of thing.

    THIS is the kind of stupid provocative policy that makes people (like many on this board) think that Isreal is not AT ALL serious about finding a path to peace, and let's face it, it drives the Palestinians justifiably crazy, too.

    I realize that Israel is not a monolithic single minded society, but perhaps others here (and world wide) are not yet fully aware that there is a battle raging for the soul of Isreal, just as there is a battle raging for the soul of the USA.

    And of course, we all know that events like this are fodder for the Jew Haters, no less than many of Bush's stupid provocative policies are fodder for America Haters world wide.
     
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    Are you not an administrator? Don't you know the rules for posting links? :(

    I'm almost there, almost
     

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