israel reacts like a spoilt child

[SAYIT]

for the most part the Zionist argument regarding 181 is impossibly fraught with contradiction....first they affirm that "they" accepted it and the Arab states rejected it, which is clearly a preferred interpretation of 181...so far as I'm aware the document does not offer a default-clause that ceded partition to one side if the other cast a negative vote....181 was a GA resolution with non-binding status: essentially this means it could only be fully implemented with the cooperation of both parties. But we know that the Zionist terror-groups expanded into--and occupied many of the Arab towns and villages reserved for the Palestinians under 181....so on the one hand, the fools cannot legally cite 181 because the Arabs states summarily rejected it----on the other they routinely cite 181 as their justification for declaring statehood...these two positions are contradictory....they are so busy weaving lies that they lose sight of all logic...

Good God do you believe the crap you write ??!? Your posts are always filled with anti-Zionist lies that have no reference. Who are you trying to convince
Since you still haven't found employment, may I suggest you seek a career in the fiction novel business

Probably the first thing someone would note is that this typical response is roughly 99.9% swagger...we all know the little putz knows nothing about the conflict so he tries for a series of pseudo-authoritative poses...

Still the Chump of Hypocrisy, eh Princess? You attribute to your superiors the insipid little foibles you regularly display here, even doing so in your post as you projected your idiocy onto "the millions" you believe follow your every word.

 

[SAYIT]

Good God do you believe the crap you write ??!? Your posts are always filled with anti-Zionist lies that have no reference. Who are you trying to convince
Since you still haven't found employment, may I suggest you seek a career in the fiction novel business

Probably the first thing someone would note is that this typical response is roughly 99.9% swagger...we all know the little putz knows nothing about the conflict so he tries for a series of pseudo-authoritative poses...but let's indulge him briefly---please point out these "lies that have no reference"...seems like every time I call you out on your bullshit you fold....when you accuse someone of lying the burden of proof falls to you simpleton...so once yet again---PUT UP

Funny, because this post describes you !!

And he's been doing it for years.

 

[toastman]

I wonder who arty thinks hes fooling ??

 

[Si modo]

it doesnt matter what israel will accept, international law is more important, one day soon they will be told whats happening and wont have a choice whether to accept that or not.

"International law".

 

[Si modo]

it doesnt matter what israel will accept, international law is more important, one day soon they will be told whats happening and wont have a choice whether to accept that or not.

"International law".

how perfect that a Zionist would laugh at "international law"---particularly when we review Israel's failing relationship with it....priceless

Yeah, that "international law" is so effective on Iran's nuclear weapons program.

Tell me more about this magic of which you speak called "international law".

 

[Hossfly]

how perfect that a Zionist would laugh at "international law"---particularly when we review Israel's failing relationship with it....priceless

Yeah, that "international law" is so effective on Iran's nuclear weapons program.

Tell me more about this magic of which you speak called "international law".

'Iran's nuclear program'???? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you can cite the principle in 'international law' that clearly states that Israel may obtain hundreds of nukes---yet reserves the right to determine what other nations may possess them>>????? I'll wait right here for that fkg gem of a response. Israel has no apparent advantages in the realm of international law, therefore it must impugn the process. A similar disadvantage for Israel are the documented facts of recent history---therefore obliging the Jews to invent a more---shall say---sympathetic history....from any angle you idiots wrote the fkg book on moral hypocrisy and the art of lying...

Your rambling answer in no way was relevant to the question. What a maroon!

 

[Si modo]

how perfect that a Zionist would laugh at "international law"---particularly when we review Israel's failing relationship with it....priceless

Yeah, that "international law" is so effective on Iran's nuclear weapons program.

Tell me more about this magic of which you speak called "international law".

'Iran's nuclear program'???? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you can cite the principle in 'international law' that clearly states that Israel may obtain hundreds of nukes---yet reserves the right to determine what other nations may possess them>>????? I'll wait right here for that fkg gem of a response. Israel has no apparent advantages in the realm of international law, therefore it must impugn the process. A similar disadvantage for Israel are the documented facts of recent history---therefore obliging the Jews to invent a more---shall say---sympathetic history....from any angle you idiots wrote the fkg book on moral hypocrisy and the art of lying...

No hypocrisy, moron.

Iran is a signatory of the NPT.

Israel is not and never was a signatory.

The magic of "international law". And, would you look at that? Who is following and who is not following that "international law"?

Perhaps you can come up with another example of the magic of "international law"?

 

[Hossfly]

'Iran's nuclear program'???? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you can cite the principle in 'international law' that clearly states that Israel may obtain hundreds of nukes---yet reserves the right to determine what other nations may possess them>>????? I'll wait right here for that fkg gem of a response. Israel has no apparent advantages in the realm of international law, therefore it must impugn the process. A similar disadvantage for Israel are the documented facts of recent history---therefore obliging the Jews to invent a more---shall say---sympathetic history....from any angle you idiots wrote the fkg book on moral hypocrisy and the art of lying...

Your rambling answer in no way was relevant to the question. What a maroon!

That probably makes sense only if we pass it through the Zionist mind-fuck filter...however beyond this debilitating effect it makes perfect sense---which I suspect tells us why you cannot produce any relevant answer to it...just more of your monotonous poses....what do you do when your bullshit tank is running low Hoss-flake??? Is there a Zionist-hotline that re-fills your bullshit tank???

What are you really trying to say, Codger?

 

[Si modo]

'Iran's nuclear program'???? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you can cite the principle in 'international law' that clearly states that Israel may obtain hundreds of nukes---yet reserves the right to determine what other nations may possess them>>????? I'll wait right here for that fkg gem of a response. Israel has no apparent advantages in the realm of international law, therefore it must impugn the process. A similar disadvantage for Israel are the documented facts of recent history---therefore obliging the Jews to invent a more---shall say---sympathetic history....from any angle you idiots wrote the fkg book on moral hypocrisy and the art of lying...

Your rambling answer in no way was relevant to the question. What a maroon!

That probably makes sense only if we pass it through the Zionist mind-fuck filter...however beyond this debilitating effect it makes perfect sense---which I suspect tells us why you cannot produce any relevant answer to it...just more of your monotonous poses....what do you do when your bullshit tank is running low Hoss-flake??? Is there a Zionist-hotline that re-fills your bullshit tank???

It's funny how mad the Muslims get when they go on about "international law" and one mentions Iran's nuclear program.

 

[Hossfly]

"Spoilt child" reaction:

israel today | Israel News | Israel threatens to overthrow Palestinian government - israel today | Israel News

 

[irosie91]

what is "RIGHT OF RETURN"??? anyone? is there some WORLD WIDE LAW
that grants people the RIGHT to go to countries that do not want them just
because a grandfather lived there? Regarding ancestral RIGHTS commencing today--
how far back do they go? Once in the land of ones ANCESTOR----is one guaranteed full
rights? A few years ago MALIDIVES passed a law restricting citizenship to MUSLIMS
ONLY------not a murmur-----can Israel pass a law restricting citizenship to JEWS ONLY?

 

[Sunni Man]

Lawsuit challenges Israel’s discriminatory citizenship definition

A group of Jews and Arabs are fighting in the Israeli courts to be recognized as “Israelis,” a nationality currently denied them, in a case that officials fear may threaten the country’s self-declared status as a Jewish state.

Israel refused to recognize an Israeli nationality at the country’s establishment in 1948, making an unusual distinction between “citizenship” and “nationality.” Although all Israelis qualify as “citizens of Israel,” the state is defined as belonging to the “Jewish nation,” meaning not only the 5.6 million Israeli Jews but also more than seven million Jews in the diaspora.

Critics say the special status of Jewish nationality has been a way to undermine the citizenship rights of non-Jews in Israel, especially the fifth of the population who are Arab. Some 30 laws in Israel specifically privilege Jews, including in the areas of immigration rights, naturalization, access to land and employment.

Arab leaders have also long complained that indications of “Arab” nationality on ID cards make it easy for police and government officials to target Arab citizens for harsher treatment.

The interior ministry has adopted more than 130 possible nationalities for Israeli citizens, most of them defined in religious or ethnic terms, with “Jewish” and “Arab” being the main categories.

The group’s legal case is being heard by the high court after a district judge rejected their petition two years ago, backing the state’s position that there is no Israeli nation.

The head of the campaign for Israeli nationality, Uzi Ornan, a retired linguistics professor, said: “It is absurd that Israel, which recognizes dozens of different nationalities, refuses to recognize the one nationality it is supposed to represent.”

The government opposes the case, claiming that the campaign’s real goal is to “undermine the state’s infrastructure” — a presumed reference to laws and official institutions that ensure Jewish citizens enjoy a privileged status in Israel.

Ornan, 86, said that denying a common Israeli nationality was the linchpin of state-sanctioned discrimination against the Arab population.

“There are even two laws — the Law of Return for Jews and the Citizenship Law for Arabs — that determine how you belong to the state,” he said. “What kind of democracy divides its citizens into two kinds?”

Yoel Harshefi, a lawyer supporting Ornan, said the interior ministry had resorted to creating national groups with no legal recognition outside Israel, such as “Arab” or “unknown,” to avoid recognizing an Israeli nationality.

In official documents most Israelis are classified as “Jewish” or “Arab,” but immigrants whose status as Jews is questioned by the Israeli rabbinate, including more than 300,000 arrivals from the former Soviet Union, are typically registered according to their country of origin.

“Imagine the uproar in Jewish communities in the United States, Britain or France, if the authorities there tried to classify their citizens as ‘Jewish’ or ‘Christian,’” said Ornan.

The professor, who lives close to Haifa, launched his legal action after the interior ministry refused to change his nationality to “Israeli” in 2000. An online petition declaring “I am an Israeli” has attracted several thousand signatures.

Ornan has been joined in his action by 20 other public figures, including former government minister Shulamit Aloni. Several members have been registered with unusual nationalities such as “Russian,” “Buddhist,” “Georgian” and “Burmese.”

Two Arabs are party to the case, including Adel Kadaan, who courted controversy in the 1990s by waging a lengthy legal action to be allowed to live in one of several hundred communities in Israel open only to Jews.

Uri Avnery, a peace activist and former member of the parliament, said the current nationality system gave Jews living abroad a far greater stake in Israel than its 1.3 million Arab citizens.

“The State of Israel cannot recognize an ‘Israeli’ nation because it is the state of the ‘Jewish’ nation … it belongs to the Jews of Brooklyn, Budapest and Buenos Aires, even though these consider themselves as belonging to the American, Hungarian or Argentine nations.”

International Zionist organizations representing the diaspora, such as the Jewish National Fund and the Jewish Agency, are given in Israeli law a special, quasi-governmental role, especially in relation to immigration and control over large areas of Israeli territory for the settlement of Jews only.

Ornan said the lack of a common nationality violated Israel’s Declaration of Independence, which says the state will “uphold the full social and political equality of all its citizens, without distinction of religion, race or sex.”

Indications of nationality on ID cards carried by Israelis made it easy for officials to discriminate against Arab citizens, he added.

The government has countered that the nationality section on ID cards was phased out from 2000 — after the interior ministry, which was run by a religious party at the time, objected to a court order requiring it to identify non-Orthodox Jews as “Jewish” on the cards.

However, Ornan said any official could instantly tell if he was looking at the card of a Jew or Arab because the date of birth on the IDs of Jews was given according to the Hebrew calendar. In addition, the ID of an Arab, unlike a Jew, included the grandfather’s name.

“Flash your ID card and whatever government clerk is sitting across from you immediately knows which ‘clan’ you belong to, and can refer you to those best suited to ‘handle your kind,’” Ornan said.

The distinction between Jewish and Arab nationalities is also shown on interior ministry records used to make important decisions about personal status issues such as marriage, divorce and death, which are dealt with on entirely sectarian terms.

Only Israelis from the same religious group, for example, are allowed to marry inside Israel — otherwise they are forced to wed abroad — and cemeteries are separated according to religious belonging.

Some of those who have joined the campaign complain that it has damaged their business interests. One Druze member, Carmel Wahaba, said he had lost the chance to establish an import-export company in France because officials there refused to accept documents stating his nationality as “Druze” rather than “Israeli.”

The group also said it hoped to expose a verbal sleight of hand that intentionally mistranslates the Hebrew term “Israeli citizenship” on the country’s passports as “Israeli nationality” in English to avoid problems with foreign border officials.

B Michael, a commentator for Yedioth Aharonoth, Israel’s most popular newspaper, has observed: “We are all Israeli nationals — but only abroad.”

The campaign, however, is likely to face an uphill struggle in the courts.

A similar legal suit brought by a Tel Aviv psychologist, George Tamrin, failed in 1970. Shimon Agranat, head of the high court at the time, ruled: “There is no Israeli nation separate from the Jewish people. … The Jewish people is composed not only of those residing in Israel but also of diaspora Jewries.”

That view was echoed by the district court in 2008 when it heard Ornan’s case.

The judges in the high court, which held the first appeal hearing last month, indicated that they too were likely to be unsympathetic. Justice Uzi Fogelman said: “The question is whether or not the court is the right place to solve this problem.”

Lawsuit challenges Israel's discriminatory citizenship definition | The Electronic Intifada

 

[irosie91]

Several years ago a law suit was brought in Yemen which challenged a law stating ONLY MUSLIMS can hold public office-----in fact ----a public office holder must be THE OFFSPRING of two muslim parents according to that law----the lawsuit was dismissed

 

[Sunni Man]

So what?

Yemen acknowledges that it's laws are based on sharia law and makes no bones about it..

While Israel falsely claims to be a western style democracy.

But in reality is an apartheid zionist state with special privileges and laws only for Jews.

 

[Si modo]

So what?

Yemen acknowledges that it's laws are based on sharia law and makes no bones about it..

While Israel falsely claims to be a western style democracy.

But in reality is an apartheid zionist state with special privileges and laws only for Jews.

Ummm, Israel self-describes as a "Jewish Nation". Your own link even said it.

 

[sealadaigh]

Abbas's UN end-around was a cynical attempt to restore his relevancy. Despite the UN birthday party the "Palestinians" still must negotiate directly with Israel to end the conflict.

or better put, despite israel's fit of childish pique, they must still negotiate with the palestinians to end the conflict.

Consider the REALITY:
Israel - 23,500 days of STATEHOOD and still winning!
"Palestine" - 0 days of statehood and still WHINING!

consider this reality. many of israel's children go hungry and many older israelis do without, some of them holocaust survivors, so you can buy tanks and guns...

and we saw a lot of joyous palestinians and a lot of pissed, and scared, israelis...so you may want to re-evaluate that "winning/whining" assessment.

 

[toastman]

or better put, despite israel's fit of childish pique, they must still negotiate with the palestinians to end the conflict.

Consider the REALITY:
Israel - 23,500 days of STATEHOOD and still winning!
"Palestine" - 0 days of statehood and still WHINING!

consider this reality. many of israel's children go hungry and many older israelis do without, some of them holocaust survivors, so you can buy tanks and guns...

and we saw a lot of joyous palestinians and a lot of pissed, and scared, israelis...so you may want to re-evaluate that "winning/whining" assessment.

Once again Seal, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about. Scared Israelis ??
That's funny

 

[irosie91]

I support an EMULATION of shariah law FOR MUSLIMS----in Israel. My excellent suggestion is that MUSLIMS should be the DHIMMIS of Israel and enjoy exactly the same status that Yemeni jews enjoyed in Yemen. The very first muslim I knew well----long ago----told me with GREAT PRIDE---that islam ----give the most "toleration" I have to admit that prior to that day I had never heard the world "toleration" In any case----I want arab muslims in Israel to enjoy that SAME LEVEL OF TOLERATION

 

[Si modo]

or better put, despite israel's fit of childish pique, they must still negotiate with the palestinians to end the conflict.

Consider the REALITY:
Israel - 23,500 days of STATEHOOD and still winning!
"Palestine" - 0 days of statehood and still WHINING!

consider this reality. many of israel's children go hungry and many older israelis do without, some of them holocaust survivors, so you can buy tanks and guns...

and we saw a lot of joyous palestinians and a lot of pissed, and scared, israelis...so you may want to re-evaluate that "winning/whining" assessment.

Funny how poverty still exists everywhere.

 

[irosie91]

So what?

Yemen acknowledges that it's laws are based on sharia law and makes no bones about it..

While Israel falsely claims to be a western style democracy.

But in reality is an apartheid zionist state with special privileges and laws only for Jews.

Ok sunni----you have just admitted that SHARIAH SHIT IS THE STINK OF
APARTHEID In fact you are right-----but Israel does not come close to
the FILTHY STENCH OF SHARIAH------I find it interesting that people who
support the STINK OF SHARIAH----have the audacity to critisize ANY policy
of Israel----especially laws that give a slight edge to the people who SURVIVED
THE DISGUSTING STINK OF SHARIAH------for the record---my own husband
was born in a STINKING SHARIAH SHIT HOLE-----thus I know the depth of
its depraved stench. Muslims who object to the slight edge jews have
in Israel------can CERTAINLY take their stinking shariah asses to YEMEN
or any of the other digusting stinking shariah shit holes in the world
Good news for you----egypt is sinking into the cosmic shariah shit hole---right
now