Israel / Palestine Peace Plan

[Coyote]

Israel is one of the most advanced, successful and prosperous countries in the world, shithead.

You ought to be paranoid about why you have turned out to be such a dumbass loser.

With what Israel has stolen and mooched, Haiti could be an advanced, successful and prosperous country.

You're a stoner whose brain is fried.

Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?

 

[Marc39]

With what Israel has stolen and mooched, Haiti could be an advanced, successful and prosperous country.

You're a stoner whose brain is fried.

Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?

Stoner.

 

[jillian]

I do complain about that.

BTW, all that money goes to benefit Israel.

another lie...

maybe Suha should give back the bucks that ended up in her French bank accounts.

see, your problem is you talk about "justice" but you're patholoigcal in your misrepresentations...

such as the above.

and you were calling someone else paranoid?

 

[Coyote]

You're a stoner whose brain is fried.

Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?

Stoner.

Is that your new vocabulary word for the day?

 

[Marc39]

Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen at birth?

Stoner.

Is that your new vocabulary word for the day?

Vocabulary word is redundant, moron.

 

[The Rabbi]

Projecting again are you?

I'm not the one insisting that Israel is like the Jim Crow South or apartheid era South Africa. You're the one engaging in that fallacy.
But it's a lot easier than admitting the truth: that you don't have a clue what's going on in Israel but gosh there sure are a lot of pictures of innocent looking people getting killed/beaten up so there must be SOMETHING going on here.

Yup, I'm insisting there are similarities. As of yet, you have been unable to counter them. But, that's ok. I'm patient

Well...now...Mr. pseudo-Rabbi wants to talk about the "truth"....how novel.

So, basically - similarities to Jim Crow and apartheid era South Africa is limited to innocent looking (aha - note the distinction here boys and girls - "innocent looking" - Arabs can never be innocent ) people getting killed/beaten up. Glad you found such a simple means of identifying what is or isn't similar to apartheid. There is no need then to look into actual legal practices.

All your similarities have been shown to be specious. There are none. You might as well compare the situation in Israel to the Boer War. Or The Reformation. Or Vietnam.
Merely insisting on it doesn't make it so. But it does make you look like the ill informed piece of shit you are.
Have you noticed that your supporters in this thread are PF Tinmore and the usual cast of anti semites on thsi board? Doesn't that bother you?

 

[Coyote]

Stoner.

Is that your new vocabulary word for the day?

Vocabulary word is redundant, moron.

Now, Now, Don't get mad. Sit down and give your mind a rest.

 

[Marc39]

BTW, all that money goes to benefit Israel.

And, this is how Israel benefits the US, dummy...

Since 1967, Israel has given to the Pentagon Soviet military equipment captured in conflicts with Soviet-supported Arab countries, providing important data. Israel gave the US a full squadron of MiG-21s which was called the “Top Gun” squadron and used by the U.S. Air Force and Navy for training purposes.

In 1970, Israel forced the withdrawal of the Syrian army from US-ally Jordan while the U.S. was involved militarily in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, helping to prevent the collapse of a pro-American government and the installation of a pro-Soviet regime.

In the 1973 War, Israel defeated Soviet-trained and equipped Egyptian and Syrian armies. Israel shared captured Soviet equipment with the US. Israel emerged the one reliable ally where U.S. troops could land, where U.S. equipment can be pre-positioned and where the U.S. has friendly port facilities, saving the US billions of dollars.

In 1982, Israel destroyed Soviet anti-aircraft systems in Lebanon that were considered impenetrable by American weapons. Israel shared with the US insights from the conflict, estimated to be worth billions of dollars.

Senator Daniel Inouye has stated that Israeli data on the Soviet military has saved the U.S. billions of dollars and that the contribution made by Israeli intelligence to America exceeds information provided by all NATO countries combined.

In 1981, Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor at Osirak, stalling Saddam Hussein’s nuclear capabilities and allowing the U.S. to engage in conventional warfare with Iraq in 1991 and 2003.

Israel has provided critical analysis of the F16 to General Dynamics that resulted in 600 improvements, including structural enhancements, software changes, increased capability landing gear, radio improvements and avionic modifications.

In the Gulf War, Israel provided the US with key intelligence, air cover for military cargo and had IDF stationed in the Iraqi desert to rescue downed American pilots.

The IDF was the sole military force in the region that could successfully challenge the Iraqi army. That fact, which Saddam Hussein understood, was a deterrent to further Iraqi aggression.

The US military benefited from the use of Israeli-made Have Nap air-launched missiles on its B-52 bombers. The Navy used Israeli Pioneer pilotless drones for reconnaissance in the Gulf.

Israel provided mine plows that were used to clear paths for Allied forces through Iraqi minefields.

Mobile bridges flown directly from Israel to Saudi Arabia were used by the U.S. Marine Corps

Israel Aircraft Industries developed conformal fuel tanks that enhanced the range of F15 aircraft used in the Gulf War.

An Israeli-produced targeting system was used to increase the Cobra helicopter's night-fighting capabilities.

Israel manufactured the canister for the highly successful Tomahawk missile.

Night-vision goggles used by U.S. forces were supplied by Israel.

A low-altitude warning system produced and developed in Israel was utilized on Blackhawk helicopters.

Other Israeli equipment provided to U.S. forces included flack vests, gas masks and sandbags.

Israel offered the United States the use of military and hospital facilities. U.S. ships utilized Haifa port shipyard maintenance and support on their way to the Gulf.

General George Keegan, former head of U.S. Air Force Intelligence, has stated that “Israel is worth five CIA’s.” He said that between 1974 and
1990, Israel received $18.3 billion in U.S. military grants, but, that in the same timeframe Israel provided the U.S. with $50-$80 billion in intelligence, research and development savings and Soviet weapons systems given to the U.S.

Israel shares with the US important experience in homeland defense and warfare against suicide bombers and car bombs.

In preparation for the Iraq War, American soldiers trained in IDF facilities and Israeli drones flew above the Sunni Triangle and in Afghanistan providing U.S. Marines with critical intelligence.

In Iraq, Israeli advisers have trained US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders.

The IDF sent urban warfare specialists to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, the home of US special forces, and Israeli military consultants have also visited Iraq.

The US Army also travelled to Israel to glean lessons learned from their counterterrorist operations in urban areas. The IDF regularly shared its experience in the West Bank and Gaza with the US armed forces. The Pentagon regularly asked the IDF to debrief on operations similar to those engaged in by US military forces.

An American liaison team had been responsible for coordinating efforts and intelligence between the Pentagon, the IDF, and American forces. Major General Charles Simpson, the chief liaison officer for the U.S. Army, met repeatedly with IDF Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon on this joint project.

Joint air force exercises, such as the Juniper Cobra, had taken place between Israeli and the American Patriot artillery in the Negev and radar units from the U.S. Sixth Fleet. Noble Dina, an anti-submarine warfare exercise, were executed with the combined efforts of the Israel Navy and the Sixth Fleet.

American soldiers were in Israel prior to the Iraq war to work with anti-missile defenses, both the U.S.-made Patriot and the Arrow, developed by both Israel and the U.S.

The U.S. sailed an aircraft carrier, the Harry Truman, into the Mediterranean Sea. The aircraft allowed U.S. planes to reach Iraqi targets by flying over Israeli and Jordanian territory. Israel has permitted the use of its air zones.

Israel has been sharing with the US its experience in combating Palestinian terrorism, which has been helpful in the US's war in Afghanistan. The US military benefits from Israel’s tactics against suicide bombers, car bombs and improvised explosive devices.

Most of the US military aid to Israel must be spent in the United States, which benefits US military contractors.

In contrast to US commitments to Korea, Japan, Germany and numerous other countries in which the US has over 100 military bases, the US has no military bases in Israel.

Former Secretary of State and NATO forces Commander Alexander Haig has said that he is pro-Israeli because Israel is "the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security"

In the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in August 2005, Israel provided assistance to the relief efforts. An Israeli airlift arrived in Little Rock, Arkansas with an eighty-ton shipment of humanitarian aid, including baby food, diapers, water, ready-to-eat meals, clothes, tents, blankets, mattresses, stretchers, first aid kits, wheelchairs and other medical supplies.

In addition to government aid, Israeli non-profit organizations assisted in the relief efforts. Magen David Adom (Israel's national emergency medical, disaster, ambulance and blood bank service) began the "United Brotherhood Operation," which sent a plane-load of supplies and financial assistance. IsraAid, the coordinating body of Israeli non-profits organizations involved in relief work, sent a delegation of medical personnel, psychologists and experienced search-and-rescue divers.

Five universities in Israel welcomed displaced American students from the affected areas and invited both undergraduate and graduate students to continue their studies in Israel.

When terrorists bombed the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998, Israel immediately dispatched search and rescue teams to assist in saving the victims trapped under the rubble. The IDF's Home Front Command Rescue Unit was the first delegation to arrive from abroad, and was accompanied by military and civilian doctors, rescue dogs and high-tech rescue equipment. The Israeli team led the rescue operation in Nairobi, Kenya and was able to pull three survivors from the building, perform life-saving operations and provide medical care to the victims of the bombing.

 

[Coyote]

All your similarities have been shown to be specious. There are none. You might as well compare the situation in Israel to the Boer War. Or The Reformation. Or Vietnam.
Merely insisting on it doesn't make it so. But it does make you look like the ill informed piece of shit you are.
Have you noticed that your supporters in this thread are PF Tinmore and the usual cast of anti semites on thsi board? Doesn't that bother you?

Indeed. Perhaps you should remember that next time you pass off anorexic farts for debate? If you tell a lie often enough - it does not make it truth.

And your supporters are....ding...ding...ding.....


hmm....I'm sure there are some....

Oh ya, Marc and Mike, the other face of anti-semites.

 

[The Rabbi]

All your similarities have been shown to be specious. There are none. You might as well compare the situation in Israel to the Boer War. Or The Reformation. Or Vietnam.
Merely insisting on it doesn't make it so. But it does make you look like the ill informed piece of shit you are.
Have you noticed that your supporters in this thread are PF Tinmore and the usual cast of anti semites on thsi board? Doesn't that bother you?

Indeed. Perhaps you should remember that next time you pass off anorexic farts for debate? If you tell a lie often enough - it does not make it truth.

And your supporters are....ding...ding...ding.....


hmm....I'm sure there are some....

Oh ya, Marc and Mike, the other face of anti-semites.

Thats called projection.
Your arguments have been unmasked as a tissue of ignorance wrapped in lies. I'd suggest quitting this thread before you achieve ultimate laughing stock status.

 

[Marc39]

All your similarities have been shown to be specious. There are none. You might as well compare the situation in Israel to the Boer War. Or The Reformation. Or Vietnam.
Merely insisting on it doesn't make it so. But it does make you look like the ill informed piece of shit you are.
Have you noticed that your supporters in this thread are PF Tinmore and the usual cast of anti semites on thsi board? Doesn't that bother you?

Indeed. Perhaps you should remember that next time you pass off anorexic farts for debate? If you tell a lie often enough - it does not make it truth.

And your supporters are....ding...ding...ding.....


hmm....I'm sure there are some....

Oh ya, Marc and Mike, the other face of anti-semites.

Funny, coming from you, given your knowledge of Middle East affairs is less than zero.

Entertain us with your keen insight into Israel. LOL

 

[Coyote]

BTW, all that money goes to benefit Israel.

And, this is how Israel benefits the US, dummy...

Since 1967, Israel has given to the Pentagon Soviet military equipment captured in conflicts with Soviet-supported Arab countries, providing important data. Israel gave the US a full squadron of MiG-21s which was called the “Top Gun” squadron and used by the U.S. Air Force and Navy for training purposes.

In 1970, Israel forced the withdrawal of the Syrian army from US-ally Jordan while the U.S. was involved militarily in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, helping to prevent the collapse of a pro-American government and the installation of a pro-Soviet regime.

In the 1973 War, Israel defeated Soviet-trained and equipped Egyptian and Syrian armies. Israel shared captured Soviet equipment with the US. Israel emerged the one reliable ally where U.S. troops could land, where U.S. equipment can be pre-positioned and where the U.S. has friendly port facilities, saving the US billions of dollars.

In 1982, Israel destroyed Soviet anti-aircraft systems in Lebanon that were considered impenetrable by American weapons. Israel shared with the US insights from the conflict, estimated to be worth billions of dollars.

Senator Daniel Inouye has stated that Israeli data on the Soviet military has saved the U.S. billions of dollars and that the contribution made by Israeli intelligence to America exceeds information provided by all NATO countries combined.

In 1981, Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor at Osirak, stalling Saddam Hussein’s nuclear capabilities and allowing the U.S. to engage in conventional warfare with Iraq in 1991 and 2003.

Israel has provided critical analysis of the F16 to General Dynamics that resulted in 600 improvements, including structural enhancements, software changes, increased capability landing gear, radio improvements and avionic modifications.

In the Gulf War, Israel provided the US with key intelligence, air cover for military cargo and had IDF stationed in the Iraqi desert to rescue downed American pilots.

The IDF was the sole military force in the region that could successfully challenge the Iraqi army. That fact, which Saddam Hussein understood, was a deterrent to further Iraqi aggression.

The US military benefited from the use of Israeli-made Have Nap air-launched missiles on its B-52 bombers. The Navy used Israeli Pioneer pilotless drones for reconnaissance in the Gulf.

Israel provided mine plows that were used to clear paths for Allied forces through Iraqi minefields.

Mobile bridges flown directly from Israel to Saudi Arabia were used by the U.S. Marine Corps

Israel Aircraft Industries developed conformal fuel tanks that enhanced the range of F15 aircraft used in the Gulf War.

An Israeli-produced targeting system was used to increase the Cobra helicopter's night-fighting capabilities.

Israel manufactured the canister for the highly successful Tomahawk missile.

Night-vision goggles used by U.S. forces were supplied by Israel.

A low-altitude warning system produced and developed in Israel was utilized on Blackhawk helicopters.

Other Israeli equipment provided to U.S. forces included flack vests, gas masks and sandbags.

Israel offered the United States the use of military and hospital facilities. U.S. ships utilized Haifa port shipyard maintenance and support on their way to the Gulf.

General George Keegan, former head of U.S. Air Force Intelligence, has stated that “Israel is worth five CIA’s.” He said that between 1974 and
1990, Israel received $18.3 billion in U.S. military grants, but, that in the same timeframe Israel provided the U.S. with $50-$80 billion in intelligence, research and development savings and Soviet weapons systems given to the U.S.

Israel shares with the US important experience in homeland defense and warfare against suicide bombers and car bombs.

In preparation for the Iraq War, American soldiers trained in IDF facilities and Israeli drones flew above the Sunni Triangle and in Afghanistan providing U.S. Marines with critical intelligence.

In Iraq, Israeli advisers have trained US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders.

The IDF sent urban warfare specialists to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, the home of US special forces, and Israeli military consultants have also visited Iraq.

The US Army also travelled to Israel to glean lessons learned from their counterterrorist operations in urban areas. The IDF regularly shared its experience in the West Bank and Gaza with the US armed forces. The Pentagon regularly asked the IDF to debrief on operations similar to those engaged in by US military forces.

An American liaison team had been responsible for coordinating efforts and intelligence between the Pentagon, the IDF, and American forces. Major General Charles Simpson, the chief liaison officer for the U.S. Army, met repeatedly with IDF Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon on this joint project.

Joint air force exercises, such as the Juniper Cobra, had taken place between Israeli and the American Patriot artillery in the Negev and radar units from the U.S. Sixth Fleet. Noble Dina, an anti-submarine warfare exercise, were executed with the combined efforts of the Israel Navy and the Sixth Fleet.

American soldiers were in Israel prior to the Iraq war to work with anti-missile defenses, both the U.S.-made Patriot and the Arrow, developed by both Israel and the U.S.

The U.S. sailed an aircraft carrier, the Harry Truman, into the Mediterranean Sea. The aircraft allowed U.S. planes to reach Iraqi targets by flying over Israeli and Jordanian territory. Israel has permitted the use of its air zones.

Israel has been sharing with the US its experience in combating Palestinian terrorism, which has been helpful in the US's war in Afghanistan. The US military benefits from Israel’s tactics against suicide bombers, car bombs and improvised explosive devices.

Most of the US military aid to Israel must be spent in the United States, which benefits US military contractors.

In contrast to US commitments to Korea, Japan, Germany and numerous other countries in which the US has over 100 military bases, the US has no military bases in Israel.

Former Secretary of State and NATO forces Commander Alexander Haig has said that he is pro-Israeli because Israel is "the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security"

In the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in August 2005, Israel provided assistance to the relief efforts. An Israeli airlift arrived in Little Rock, Arkansas with an eighty-ton shipment of humanitarian aid, including baby food, diapers, water, ready-to-eat meals, clothes, tents, blankets, mattresses, stretchers, first aid kits, wheelchairs and other medical supplies.

In addition to government aid, Israeli non-profit organizations assisted in the relief efforts. Magen David Adom (Israel's national emergency medical, disaster, ambulance and blood bank service) began the "United Brotherhood Operation," which sent a plane-load of supplies and financial assistance. IsraAid, the coordinating body of Israeli non-profits organizations involved in relief work, sent a delegation of medical personnel, psychologists and experienced search-and-rescue divers.

Five universities in Israel welcomed displaced American students from the affected areas and invited both undergraduate and graduate students to continue their studies in Israel.

When terrorists bombed the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998, Israel immediately dispatched search and rescue teams to assist in saving the victims trapped under the rubble. The IDF's Home Front Command Rescue Unit was the first delegation to arrive from abroad, and was accompanied by military and civilian doctors, rescue dogs and high-tech rescue equipment. The Israeli team led the rescue operation in Nairobi, Kenya and was able to pull three survivors from the building, perform life-saving operations and provide medical care to the victims of the bombing.

If you are going to plagierize, you should at least link to the sources: Embassy of Israel in Washington DC

 

[Coyote]

All your similarities have been shown to be specious. There are none. You might as well compare the situation in Israel to the Boer War. Or The Reformation. Or Vietnam.
Merely insisting on it doesn't make it so. But it does make you look like the ill informed piece of shit you are.
Have you noticed that your supporters in this thread are PF Tinmore and the usual cast of anti semites on thsi board? Doesn't that bother you?

Indeed. Perhaps you should remember that next time you pass off anorexic farts for debate? If you tell a lie often enough - it does not make it truth.

And your supporters are....ding...ding...ding.....


hmm....I'm sure there are some....

Oh ya, Marc and Mike, the other face of anti-semites.

Funny, coming from you, given your knowledge of Middle East affairs is less than zero.

Entertain us with your keen insight into Israel. LOL

Request denied.

Still awaiting evidence that you are in any position to judge anyone's knowledge of the Middle East.

 

[The Rabbi]

Indeed. Perhaps you should remember that next time you pass off anorexic farts for debate? If you tell a lie often enough - it does not make it truth.

And your supporters are....ding...ding...ding.....


hmm....I'm sure there are some....

Oh ya, Marc and Mike, the other face of anti-semites.

Funny, coming from you, given your knowledge of Middle East affairs is less than zero.

Entertain us with your keen insight into Israel. LOL

Request denied.

Still awaiting evidence that you are in any position to judge anyone's knowledge of the Middle East.

I'd say he's offered in again and again.
And you have offered evidence again and again that you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Coyote]

Funny, coming from you, given your knowledge of Middle East affairs is less than zero.

Entertain us with your keen insight into Israel. LOL

Request denied.

Still awaiting evidence that you are in any position to judge anyone's knowledge of the Middle East.

I'd say he's offered in again and again.
And you have offered evidence again and again that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Ever thought of removing your head from Marc's ass? You give a whole new meaning to "butt buddies".

 

[Kalam]

Request denied.

Still awaiting evidence that you are in any position to judge anyone's knowledge of the Middle East.

I'd say he's offered in again and again.
And you have offered evidence again and again that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Ever thought of removing your head from Marc's ass? You give a whole new meaning to "butt buddies".

Some people are so shameless that they'll stoop to supporting brainless neanderthals like Marcy Marc... so long as they share a common ideology.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I do complain about that.

BTW, all that money goes to benefit Israel.

another lie...

maybe Suha should give back the bucks that ended up in her French bank accounts.

see, your problem is you talk about "justice" but you're patholoigcal in your misrepresentations...

such as the above.

and you were calling someone else paranoid?

It is interesting that you bring up Suha. Why do you think Israel dragged Arafat back to Palestine. And then he, and his friends, became rich while the Palestinians ate dirt and the peace process went backward.

There is a story there.

 

[Marc39]

It is interesting that you bring up Suha. Why do you think Israel dragged Arafat back to Palestine. And then he, and his friends, became rich while the Palestinians ate dirt and the peace process went backward.

There is a story there.

The story is Nasser made Arafat the head of the PLO, moron.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is interesting that you bring up Suha. Why do you think Israel dragged Arafat back to Palestine. And then he, and his friends, became rich while the Palestinians ate dirt and the peace process went backward.

There is a story there.

The story is Nasser made Arafat the head of the PLO, moron.

Yeah but that is not the story.

 

[Marc39]

It is interesting that you bring up Suha. Why do you think Israel dragged Arafat back to Palestine. And then he, and his friends, became rich while the Palestinians ate dirt and the peace process went backward.

There is a story there.

The story is Nasser made Arafat the head of the PLO, moron.

Yeah but that is not the story.

It's not your story, however, you've been proven mentally retarded.