Israel Engaging In War Again.

[Beelzebub]

Did Israel help US by downing Syrian jet?
23 SEPTEMBER 2014

Today the US – backed by “moderate” Arab states like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and Jordan – started bombing territory in another sovereign state, Syria, without a UN Security Council resolution or a plausible argument that it is acting in self-defence. That makes it a crime of aggression, defined at Nuremberg as “the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”

In a sign that Obama’s war on ISIS in Syria could quickly be extended into a war against Syrian president Bashar Assad, Israel downed a Syrian jet inside Syria this morning with a US-funded Patriot missile. According to Israel, the Syrian plane had passed 800 metres into its territory before heading back into Syria, during what the Israeli media say was a sortie against “rebels” operating close to the Israeli border (that’s right – the people Obama is currently bombing but whose injuries are being mended in Israeli hospitals).

Of course, we only have Israel’s word for it that the plane briefly crossed into Israeli territory, but watch to see how completely the western media will assume Israel’s story to be the only valid account.

Let’s assume for a second that Israel’s claim is true. Even the Israeli media, presumably echoing the Israeli military, believe the plane was not threatening to attack Israel in any way, and it must have been over Israeli territory for seconds, or maybe fractions of a second. But the plane was shot down in Syria because Israeli military “policy stipulates that any plane that breaches its territorial authority must be downed to avoid security risk”. Decoded, that means Syria has to be taught a lesson about who is boss. Israel, remember, has flown over Syrian and Lebanese territory on a regular basis.

The other, strong possibility is that Israel has been told by the US to help keep Syrian skies free of Syrian planes while the US goes about its business breaking international law. See how much play that gets in western media reporting.

- See more at: Did Israel help US by downing Syrian jet Jonathan Cook s Blog

So a non-attack on Israel, with a few seconds into the Golan Heights - technically Syrian territory - and Israel has to have the aircraft pursued into Syria, and destroy it, probably killing the crew.

So in the spirit of reciprocity and universalism, what should nations do when Israel overflies their territory with unwelcome military aircraft?

 

[Daniyel]

Hostile Jet passed into Israel territorial air space, didn't answer any of the calls on the radio, shot down with a Patriot missile, turned back a shortly after the missile was about to hit,the pilots abandoned the aircraft over the Syrian skies.
Israel engage in war.
LETS MAKE A TOAST TO STUPIDITY! CHEERS BEELZEBUB! YOU MADE IT!

 

[Sunni Man]

The rogue state of Israel wallows in fascism and attacks it's neighbors on a regular basis.

 

[RoccoR]

Beelzebub, et al,

So, you jump on the bandwagon based on supposition.

Did Israel help US by downing Syrian jet?
23 SEPTEMBER 2014

Today the US – backed by “moderate” Arab states like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and Jordan – started bombing territory in another sovereign state, Syria, without a UN Security Council resolution or a plausible argument that it is acting in self-defence. That makes it a crime of aggression, defined at Nuremberg as “the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”

In a sign that Obama’s war on ISIS in Syria could quickly be extended into a war against Syrian president Bashar Assad, Israel downed a Syrian jet inside Syria this morning with a US-funded Patriot missile. According to Israel, the Syrian plane had passed 800 metres into its territory before heading back into Syria, during what the Israeli media say was a sortie against “rebels” operating close to the Israeli border (that’s right – the people Obama is currently bombing but whose injuries are being mended in Israeli hospitals).

Of course, we only have Israel’s word for it that the plane briefly crossed into Israeli territory, but watch to see how completely the western media will assume Israel’s story to be the only valid account.

Let’s assume for a second that Israel’s claim is true. Even the Israeli media, presumably echoing the Israeli military, believe the plane was not threatening to attack Israel in any way, and it must have been over Israeli territory for seconds, or maybe fractions of a second. But the plane was shot down in Syria because Israeli military “policy stipulates that any plane that breaches its territorial authority must be downed to avoid security risk”. Decoded, that means Syria has to be taught a lesson about who is boss. Israel, remember, has flown over Syrian and Lebanese territory on a regular basis.

The other, strong possibility is that Israel has been told by the US to help keep Syrian skies free of Syrian planes while the US goes about its business breaking international law. See how much play that gets in western media reporting.

- See more at: Did Israel help US by downing Syrian jet Jonathan Cook s Blog

So a non-attack on Israel, with a few seconds into the Golan Heights - technically Syrian territory - and Israel has to have the aircraft pursued into Syria, and destroy it, probably killing the crew.

So in the spirit of reciprocity and universalism, what should nations do when Israel overflies their territory with unwelcome military aircraft?

(COMMENT)

The author already stipulates that it is a "possibility." The fact is, the author doesn't know. So, what's your beef?

Are you, in addition to being a HAMAS supporter, also pro-Assad?

Code --- decode --- possible --- valid account --- this article is just a bunch of nothing.

Let's wait until the facts come-out before you start your condemnation. Then you can start the rhetoric.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Beelzebub]

Beelzebub, et al,

So, you jump on the bandwagon based on supposition.

Did Israel help US by downing Syrian jet?
23 SEPTEMBER 2014

Today the US – backed by “moderate” Arab states like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and Jordan – started bombing territory in another sovereign state, Syria, without a UN Security Council resolution or a plausible argument that it is acting in self-defence. That makes it a crime of aggression, defined at Nuremberg as “the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”

In a sign that Obama’s war on ISIS in Syria could quickly be extended into a war against Syrian president Bashar Assad, Israel downed a Syrian jet inside Syria this morning with a US-funded Patriot missile. According to Israel, the Syrian plane had passed 800 metres into its territory before heading back into Syria, during what the Israeli media say was a sortie against “rebels” operating close to the Israeli border (that’s right – the people Obama is currently bombing but whose injuries are being mended in Israeli hospitals).

Of course, we only have Israel’s word for it that the plane briefly crossed into Israeli territory, but watch to see how completely the western media will assume Israel’s story to be the only valid account.

Let’s assume for a second that Israel’s claim is true. Even the Israeli media, presumably echoing the Israeli military, believe the plane was not threatening to attack Israel in any way, and it must have been over Israeli territory for seconds, or maybe fractions of a second. But the plane was shot down in Syria because Israeli military “policy stipulates that any plane that breaches its territorial authority must be downed to avoid security risk”. Decoded, that means Syria has to be taught a lesson about who is boss. Israel, remember, has flown over Syrian and Lebanese territory on a regular basis.

The other, strong possibility is that Israel has been told by the US to help keep Syrian skies free of Syrian planes while the US goes about its business breaking international law. See how much play that gets in western media reporting.

- See more at: Did Israel help US by downing Syrian jet Jonathan Cook s Blog

So a non-attack on Israel, with a few seconds into the Golan Heights - technically Syrian territory - and Israel has to have the aircraft pursued into Syria, and destroy it, probably killing the crew.

So in the spirit of reciprocity and universalism, what should nations do when Israel overflies their territory with unwelcome military aircraft?

(COMMENT)

The author already stipulates that it is a "possibility." The fact is, the author doesn't know. So, what's your beef?

Are you, in addition to being a HAMAS supporter, also pro-Assad?

Code --- decode --- possible --- valid account --- this article is just a bunch of nothing.

Let's wait until the facts come-out before you start your condemnation. Then you can start the rhetoric.

Most Respectfully,
R

Well, illegal war by the Americans added to by illegal acts of war by Israel.

And you ask "What's my beef?" !!

Its like you expect everyone to automatically support those two criminal organisations.

 

[aris2chat]

Did Israel help US by downing Syrian jet?
23 SEPTEMBER 2014

Today the US – backed by “moderate” Arab states like Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and Jordan – started bombing territory in another sovereign state, Syria, without a UN Security Council resolution or a plausible argument that it is acting in self-defence. That makes it a crime of aggression, defined at Nuremberg as “the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”

In a sign that Obama’s war on ISIS in Syria could quickly be extended into a war against Syrian president Bashar Assad, Israel downed a Syrian jet inside Syria this morning with a US-funded Patriot missile. According to Israel, the Syrian plane had passed 800 metres into its territory before heading back into Syria, during what the Israeli media say was a sortie against “rebels” operating close to the Israeli border (that’s right – the people Obama is currently bombing but whose injuries are being mended in Israeli hospitals).

Of course, we only have Israel’s word for it that the plane briefly crossed into Israeli territory, but watch to see how completely the western media will assume Israel’s story to be the only valid account.

Let’s assume for a second that Israel’s claim is true. Even the Israeli media, presumably echoing the Israeli military, believe the plane was not threatening to attack Israel in any way, and it must have been over Israeli territory for seconds, or maybe fractions of a second. But the plane was shot down in Syria because Israeli military “policy stipulates that any plane that breaches its territorial authority must be downed to avoid security risk”. Decoded, that means Syria has to be taught a lesson about who is boss. Israel, remember, has flown over Syrian and Lebanese territory on a regular basis.

The other, strong possibility is that Israel has been told by the US to help keep Syrian skies free of Syrian planes while the US goes about its business breaking international law. See how much play that gets in western media reporting.

- See more at: Did Israel help US by downing Syrian jet Jonathan Cook s Blog

So a non-attack on Israel, with a few seconds into the Golan Heights - technically Syrian territory - and Israel has to have the aircraft pursued into Syria, and destroy it, probably killing the crew.

So in the spirit of reciprocity and universalism, what should nations do when Israel overflies their territory with unwelcome military aircraft?

Israel shot it down over the golan.
Israel also shot two hamas that were involved in the kidnapping of the teens. Hamas admitted their involvement

 

[Beelzebub]

Yep.
Israel shot it down in Syrian territory. Not even in Occupied Golan.

Shoot to kill. No talking, no legal process. That is Israel all over.

 

[RoccoR]

Beelzebub, et al,

OK be specific.

Well, illegal war by the Americans added to by illegal acts of war by Israel.

And you ask "What's my beef?" !!

Its like you expect everyone to automatically support those two criminal organisations.

(COMMENT)

What did the US do, specifically, that is illegal?

What did Israel do, specifically, that is illegal?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

Yep.
Israel shot it down in Syrian territory. Not even in Occupied Golan.

Shoot to kill. No talking, no legal process. That is Israel all over.

That is what ISLAMONAZI TERRORISTS deserve. Now what was the Fighter doing in Israeli air space to begin with ? And when did Syria rescind the declaration of war it issued on Israel ?

 

[Beelzebub]

Beelzebub, et al,

OK be specific.

Well, illegal war by the Americans added to by illegal acts of war by Israel.

And you ask "What's my beef?" !!

Its like you expect everyone to automatically support those two criminal organisations.

(COMMENT)

What did the US do, specifically, that is illegal?

What did Israel do, specifically, that is illegal?

Most Respectfully,
R

Err, did you actually read the article Rocco? Which bit of attacking into a sovereign state without agreement of that state and without the excuse of self defence, do you not get?

 

[RoccoR]

Beelzebub, et al,

Answer the question.

Beelzebub, et al,

OK be specific.

Well, illegal war by the Americans added to by illegal acts of war by Israel.

And you ask "What's my beef?" !!

Its like you expect everyone to automatically support those two criminal organisations.

(COMMENT)

What did the US do, specifically, that is illegal?

What did Israel do, specifically, that is illegal?

Most Respectfully,
R

Err, did you actually read the article Rocco? Which bit of attacking into a sovereign state without agreement of that state and without the excuse of self defence, do you not get?

(COMMENT)

I read the article.

My understanding is a Syrian penetrated an Israeli controlled restricted airspace and was shot down. (C'est la vie) You pay quarter and you take your chance.

So, what was it that the US did you are complaining about?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Humanity]

“We cannot tolerate any penetration of the Israeli airspace, so we had to shut him down even though we understand that his intention was not to attack us,” General Shmueli told reporters

Wow... So not even a hostile aircraft...

Nice one Israel... Another show of your blind aggression

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/world/middleeast/israel-syria.html?_r=0

 

[Beelzebub]

Beelzebub, et al,

Answer the question.

Beelzebub, et al,

OK be specific.

Well, illegal war by the Americans added to by illegal acts of war by Israel.

And you ask "What's my beef?" !!

Its like you expect everyone to automatically support those two criminal organisations.

(COMMENT)

What did the US do, specifically, that is illegal?

What did Israel do, specifically, that is illegal?

Most Respectfully,
R

Err, did you actually read the article Rocco? Which bit of attacking into a sovereign state without agreement of that state and without the excuse of self defence, do you not get?

(COMMENT)

I read the article.

My understanding is a Syrian penetrated an Israeli controlled restricted airspace and was shot down. (C'est la vie) You pay quarter and you take your chance.

So, what was it that the US did you are complaining about?

Most Respectfully,
R

Sorry Rocco, You are clearly too thick to follow what the US is doing. I shan't try to rub your nose in it if you wish to stay in denial.

But you are still asking questions without answering mine.
I'll give you one more go:

"So in the spirit of reciprocity and universalism, what should nations do when Israel overflies their territory with unwelcome military aircraft?"

 

[Penelope]

False flag, expecting it to happen.

 

[RoccoR]

Beelzebub, et al,

If you noticed, I asked the questions you ignored.

Sorry Rocco, You are clearly too thick to follow what the US is doing. I shan't try to rub your nose in it if you wish to stay in denial.

But you are still asking questions without answering mine.
I'll give you one more go:

"So in the spirit of reciprocity and universalism, what should nations do when Israel overflies their territory with unwelcome military aircraft?"

(COMMENT)

Each country has its own air defense protocols. Some, like Israel, Russia (eg KAL-902 and KAL-007), etc, have an auto-actuation --- that is --- once the penetrator passes the demarkation line it is subject to interception. Others have interrogation 'n' reply protocols.

I have no doubt that most Middle East countries will take any opportunity to shoot-down an Israeli penetrator. This has nothing to do with "reciprocity and universalism" --- but rather, the rules of engagement established by the leadership.

It should be noted that the US has entertained a number of defector flown aircraft that were allowed to pass through the air defense perimeter. Intercept protocols change over time. There is no standard "reciprocity and universalism" in this regard. Each nation acts in its own best interest. In the case of the US, it is threat driven. Just last week a couple of Russian flights (Two Mig-31 fighter and two Bear bombers) were intercepted inside the US air defense identification zone off Alaska.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Beelzebub]

Israelis being savage and doing the most violent thing they can, as usual then.

I see your 'principles are back to "Might is Right" Rocco. Bit of a savage yourself, aren't you, despite your verbose ways.

 

[Daniyel]

800 Meters inside Israel territorial air space, anyway the Syrian Jets have nothing to do flying south to Israel's direction.

 

[Humanity]

“We cannot tolerate any penetration of the Israeli airspace, so we had to shut him down even though we understand that his intention was not to attack us,” General Shmueli told reporters

 

[toastman]

Israelis being savage and doing the most violent thing they can, as usual then.

I see your 'principles are back to "Might is Right" Rocco. Bit of a savage yourself, aren't you, despite your verbose ways.

Israel being Savage by shooting a Jet that entered the Israeli controlled Golan?
This thread is a perfect example of the deluded mindset of pro Palestinians. You are one sick fuck Beezle.
This is one of the most pathetic pro Palestinian threads I have read in a while.

 

[Daniyel]

“We cannot tolerate any penetration of the Israeli airspace, so we had to shut him down even though we understand that his intention was not to attack us,” General Shmueli told reporters

in a conference call, saying the aircraft had flown half a mile into Israeli airspace. “We are not involved in the war in Syria, and we don’t have any intention to be involved. We have to keep our borders safe on one side but we have to make sure we are not part of this war.”
There, the whole quote.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/world/middleeast/israel-syria.html?_r=0