Israel attacks Gaza strip after Hamas armed wing parade

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The undeclared territory in 1948 (after the termination of the Mandate) was technically under the administration of the UN Trustee System; NOT Palestinian.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, now you're close.

Palestine was recognized by five other states. But, as Montevideo said, recognition is not necessary.

(COMMENT)

The community will allow the entity to exist in name, but you will notice that the All-Palestine Government was ignored, and many time denied an opportunity to participate on the Question of Palestine.

Eventually, the Egyptian Government dissolved the All-Palestine Government (APG). It never was able to get off the ground.

I noticed that the APG sent several times complained that they were not invited to key meetings.

Most Respectfully,
R

but you will notice that the All-Palestine Government was ignored,​

Probably because they were occupied. A country does not cease to exist just because it is occupied.

But it wasnt a country as the land was already claimed by another nation under existing international laws. The APG tried to ignore those laws because they worked for the Jews and failed. Could I claim your property was mine in the same way the APG did with Israel ?

The Palestinians claimed independence in Palestine.

Foreigners claimed Israel's independence in Palestine. The land was not up for grabs. Even Rocco said that the land was not up for grabs. And, even the UN said that the land was Palestine in 1949 after the Palestinian's declaration.

(COMMENT)

1. Acknowledges the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the
Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988;

2. Affirms the need to enable the Palestinian people to exercise their
sovereignty over their territory occupied since 1967;

3. Decides that, effective as of 15 December 1988, the designation
"Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation
Organization" in the United Nations system, without prejudice to the observer
status and functions of the Palestine Liberation Organization within the
United Nations system, in conformity with relevant United Nations resolutions
and practice;
SOURCE: A/RES/43/177

Actually no, that was for political purposes to get the Armistice signed. The Arab League refused to recognize Israel. But it was not "Palestine." If there had been a "Palestine" then there would have been an Armistice with Palestine.

In the announcement for the Successor Government, absent the Israeli Declaration, Palestine was a legal entity formerly under the Mandate for Palestine.

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• "After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing.

However, as this was written before the 15 May Declaration of Independence, it did not discuss independence other than to say: "will not be immediately self-governing."

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, now you're close.

(COMMENT)

The community will allow the entity to exist in name, but you will notice that the All-Palestine Government was ignored, and many time denied an opportunity to participate on the Question of Palestine.

Eventually, the Egyptian Government dissolved the All-Palestine Government (APG). It never was able to get off the ground.

I noticed that the APG sent several times complained that they were not invited to key meetings.

Most Respectfully,
R

but you will notice that the All-Palestine Government was ignored,​

Probably because they were occupied. A country does not cease to exist just because it is occupied.

But it wasnt a country as the land was already claimed by another nation under existing international laws. The APG tried to ignore those laws because they worked for the Jews and failed. Could I claim your property was mine in the same way the APG did with Israel ?

The Palestinians claimed independence in Palestine.

Foreigners claimed Israel's independence in Palestine. The land was not up for grabs. Even Rocco said that the land was not up for grabs. And, even the UN said that the land was Palestine in 1949 after the Palestinian's declaration.

The APG were foreingers from the arab league and had refused the UN resolution.The Jews had accepted UN resolution 181 and had already declared independence 6 month prior to the arab league attempt at stealing Jewish land. The land was not up for grabs as it had already been grabbed by the Jews under existing International laws. The used the term as the LoN used it, a truncated version of the MANDATE OF PALESTINE as you have been shown thousands of times in the past. Why is it when you dont like the truth you try to ignore it exists and keep asking for the same links to prove you wrong.




Again could I claim your property as mine in the same way the APG tried to claim Israel in 1948 ? And the Un followed tradition in 1945 to the present day by calling it palestine as a short version of MANDATE OF PALESTINE as detailed in UN resolutions.

The land was not up for grabs as it had already been grabbed by the Jews under existing International laws.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpo...tion of establishment of state of israel.aspx



THE DECLARATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL
May 14, 1948

On May 14, 1948, on the day in which the British Mandate over a Palestine expired, the Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum, and approved the following proclamation, declaring the establishment of the State of Israel. The new state was recognized that night by the United States and three days later by the USSR.

Text:

ERETZ-ISRAEL [(Hebrew) - the Land of Israel, Palestine] was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood, created cultural values of national and universal significance and gave to the world the eternal Book of Books.
After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people kept faith with it throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom.

Impelled by this historic and traditional attachment, Jews strove in every successive generation to re-establish themselves in their ancient homeland. In recent decades they returned in their masses. Pioneers, ma'pilim [(Hebrew) - immigrants coming to Eretz-Israel in defiance of restrictive legislation] and defenders, they made deserts bloom, revived the Hebrew language, built villages and towns, and created a thriving community controlling its own economy and culture, loving peace but knowing how to defend itself, bringing the blessings of progress to all the country's inhabitants, and aspiring towards independent nationhood.

In the year 5657 (1897), at the summons of the spiritual father of the Jewish State, Theodore Herzl, the First Zionist Congress convened and proclaimed the right of the Jewish people to national rebirth in its own country.

This right was recognized in the Balfour Declaration of the 2nd November, 1917, and re-affirmed in the Mandate of the League of Nations which, in particular, gave international sanction to the historic connection between the Jewish people and Eretz-Israel and to the right of the Jewish people to rebuild its National Home.

The catastrophe which recently befell the Jewish people - the massacre of millions of Jews in Europe - was another clear demonstration of the urgency of solving the problem of its homelessness by re-establishing in Eretz-Israel the Jewish State, which would open the gates of the homeland wide to every Jew and confer upon the Jewish people the status of a fully privileged member of the comity of nations.

Survivors of the Nazi holocaust in Europe, as well as Jews from other parts of the world, continued to migrate to Eretz-Israel, undaunted by difficulties, restrictions and dangers, and never ceased to assert their right to a life of dignity, freedom and honest toil in their national homeland.

In the Second World War, the Jewish community of this country contributed its full share to the struggle of the freedom- and peace-loving nations against the forces of Nazi wickedness and, by the blood of its soldiers and its war effort, gained the right to be reckoned among the peoples who founded the United Nations.

On the 29th November, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish State in Eretz-Israel; the General Assembly required the inhabitants of Eretz-Israel to take such steps as were necessary on their part for the implementation of that resolution. This recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish people to establish their State is irrevocable.

This right is the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own fate, like all other nations, in their own sovereign State.

ACCORDINGLY WE, MEMBERS OF THE PEOPLE'S COUNCIL, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OF ERETZ-ISRAEL AND OF THE ZIONIST MOVEMENT, ARE HERE ASSEMBLED ON THE DAY OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER ERETZ-ISRAEL AND, BY VIRTUE OF OUR NATURAL AND HISTORIC RIGHT AND ON THE STRENGTH OF THE RESOLUTION OF THE UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY, HEREBY DECLARE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH STATE IN ERETZ-ISRAEL, TO BE KNOWN AS THE STATE OF ISRAEL.

WE DECLARE that, with effect from the moment of the termination of the Mandate being tonight, the eve of Sabbath, the 6th Iyar, 5708 (15th May, 1948), until the establishment of the elected, regular authorities of the State in accordance with the Constitution which shall be adopted by the Elected Constituent Assembly not later than the 1st October 1948, the People's Council shall act as a Provisional Council of State, and its executive organ, the People's Administration, shall be the Provisional Government of the Jewish State, to be called "Israel".

THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

THE STATE OF ISRAEL is prepared to cooperate with the agencies and representatives of the United Nations in implementing the resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947, and will take steps to bring about the economic union of the whole of Eretz-Israel.

WE APPEAL to the United Nations to assist the Jewish people in the building-up of its State and to receive the State of Israel into the comity of nations.

WE APPEAL - in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.

WE EXTEND our hand to all neighbouring states and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighbourliness, and appeal to them to establish bonds of cooperation and mutual help with the sovereign Jewish people settled in its own land. The State of Israel is prepared to do its share in a common effort for the advancement of the entire Middle East.

WE APPEAL to the Jewish people throughout the Diaspora to rally round the Jews of Eretz-Israel in the tasks of immigration and upbuilding and to stand by them in the great struggle for the realization of the age-old dream - the redemption of Israel.

PLACING OUR TRUST IN THE "ROCK OF ISRAEL", WE AFFIX OUR SIGNATURES TO THIS PROCLAMATION AT THIS SESSION OF THE PROVISIONAL COUNCIL OF STATE, ON THE SOIL OF THE HOMELAND, IN THE CITY OF TEL-AVIV, ON THIS SABBATH EVE, THE 5TH DAY OF IYAR, 5708 (14TH MAY,1948).

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The undeclared territory in 1948 (after the termination of the Mandate) was technically under the administration of the UN Trustee System; NOT Palestinian.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, now you're close.

Palestine was recognized by five other states. But, as Montevideo said, recognition is not necessary.

(COMMENT)

The community will allow the entity to exist in name, but you will notice that the All-Palestine Government was ignored, and many time denied an opportunity to participate on the Question of Palestine.

Eventually, the Egyptian Government dissolved the All-Palestine Government (APG). It never was able to get off the ground.

I noticed that the APG sent several times complained that they were not invited to key meetings.

Most Respectfully,
R

but you will notice that the All-Palestine Government was ignored,​

Probably because they were occupied. A country does not cease to exist just because it is occupied.

But it wasnt a country as the land was already claimed by another nation under existing international laws. The APG tried to ignore those laws because they worked for the Jews and failed. Could I claim your property was mine in the same way the APG did with Israel ?

The Palestinians claimed independence in Palestine.

Foreigners claimed Israel's independence in Palestine. The land was not up for grabs. Even Rocco said that the land was not up for grabs. And, even the UN said that the land was Palestine in 1949 after the Palestinian's declaration.

(COMMENT)

1. Acknowledges the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the
Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988;

2. Affirms the need to enable the Palestinian people to exercise their
sovereignty over their territory occupied since 1967;

3. Decides that, effective as of 15 December 1988, the designation
"Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation
Organization" in the United Nations system, without prejudice to the observer
status and functions of the Palestine Liberation Organization within the
United Nations system, in conformity with relevant United Nations resolutions
and practice;
SOURCE: A/RES/43/177

Actually no, that was for political purposes to get the Armistice signed. The Arab League refused to recognize Israel. But it was not "Palestine." If there had been a "Palestine" then there would have been an Armistice with Palestine.

In the announcement for the Successor Government, absent the Israeli Declaration, Palestine was a legal entity formerly under the Mandate for Palestine.

{center] View attachment 87082 [/center]
• "After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing.

However, as this was written before the 15 May Declaration of Independence, it did not discuss independence other than to say: "will not be immediately self-governing."

Most Respectfully,
R

Trusteeship Council, one of the principal organs of the United Nations (UN), designed to supervise the government of trust territories and to lead them to self-government or independence.

The international supervision of colonial territories was introduced in 1919 by U.S. Pres. Woodrow Wilson at the Paris Peace Conference, which created the mandate system of the League of Nations. The trusteeship system, like the mandate system, was established on the premise that colonial territories taken from countries defeated in war should not be annexed by the victorious powers but should be administered by a trust country under international supervision until their future status was determined. Unlike the mandate system, the trusteeship system invited petitions from trust territories on their independence and required periodic international missions to the territories.

In 1945 only 12 League of Nations mandates remained: Nauru, New Guinea, Ruanda-Urundi, Togoland and Cameroon (French administered), Togoland and Cameroon (British administered), the Pacific Islands (Carolines, Marshalls, and Marianas), Western Samoa, South West Africa, Tanganyika, and Palestine. All these mandates became trust territories except South West Africa (now Namibia), which South Africa refused to enter into the trusteeship system.

Trusteeship Council | UN

 

[ForeverYoung436]

but you will notice that the All-Palestine Government was ignored,​

Probably because they were occupied. A country does not cease to exist just because it is occupied.

But it wasnt a country as the land was already claimed by another nation under existing international laws. The APG tried to ignore those laws because they worked for the Jews and failed. Could I claim your property was mine in the same way the APG did with Israel ?

The Palestinians claimed independence in Palestine.

Foreigners claimed Israel's independence in Palestine. The land was not up for grabs. Even Rocco said that the land was not up for grabs. And, even the UN said that the land was Palestine in 1949 after the Palestinian's declaration.

The APG were foreingers from the arab league and had refused the UN resolution.The Jews had accepted UN resolution 181 and had already declared independence 6 month prior to the arab league attempt at stealing Jewish land. The land was not up for grabs as it had already been grabbed by the Jews under existing International laws. The used the term as the LoN used it, a truncated version of the MANDATE OF PALESTINE as you have been shown thousands of times in the past. Why is it when you dont like the truth you try to ignore it exists and keep asking for the same links to prove you wrong.




Again could I claim your property as mine in the same way the APG tried to claim Israel in 1948 ? And the Un followed tradition in 1945 to the present day by calling it palestine as a short version of MANDATE OF PALESTINE as detailed in UN resolutions.

The land was not up for grabs as it had already been grabbed by the Jews under existing International laws.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/guide/pages/declaration of establishment of state of israel.aspx



THE DECLARATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL
May 14, 1948

On May 14, 1948, on the day in which the British Mandate over a Palestine expired, the Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum, and approved the following proclamation, declaring the establishment of the State of Israel. The new state was recognized that night by the United States and three days later by the USSR.

Text:

ERETZ-ISRAEL [(Hebrew) - the Land of Israel, Palestine] was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood, created cultural values of national and universal significance and gave to the world the eternal Book of Books.
After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people kept faith with it throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom.

Impelled by this historic and traditional attachment, Jews strove in every successive generation to re-establish themselves in their ancient homeland. In recent decades they returned in their masses. Pioneers, ma'pilim [(Hebrew) - immigrants coming to Eretz-Israel in defiance of restrictive legislation] and defenders, they made deserts bloom, revived the Hebrew language, built villages and towns, and created a thriving community controlling its own economy and culture, loving peace but knowing how to defend itself, bringing the blessings of progress to all the country's inhabitants, and aspiring towards independent nationhood.

In the year 5657 (1897), at the summons of the spiritual father of the Jewish State, Theodore Herzl, the First Zionist Congress convened and proclaimed the right of the Jewish people to national rebirth in its own country.

This right was recognized in the Balfour Declaration of the 2nd November, 1917, and re-affirmed in the Mandate of the League of Nations which, in particular, gave international sanction to the historic connection between the Jewish people and Eretz-Israel and to the right of the Jewish people to rebuild its National Home.

The catastrophe which recently befell the Jewish people - the massacre of millions of Jews in Europe - was another clear demonstration of the urgency of solving the problem of its homelessness by re-establishing in Eretz-Israel the Jewish State, which would open the gates of the homeland wide to every Jew and confer upon the Jewish people the status of a fully privileged member of the comity of nations.

Survivors of the Nazi holocaust in Europe, as well as Jews from other parts of the world, continued to migrate to Eretz-Israel, undaunted by difficulties, restrictions and dangers, and never ceased to assert their right to a life of dignity, freedom and honest toil in their national homeland.

In the Second World War, the Jewish community of this country contributed its full share to the struggle of the freedom- and peace-loving nations against the forces of Nazi wickedness and, by the blood of its soldiers and its war effort, gained the right to be reckoned among the peoples who founded the United Nations.

On the 29th November, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish State in Eretz-Israel; the General Assembly required the inhabitants of Eretz-Israel to take such steps as were necessary on their part for the implementation of that resolution. This recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish people to establish their State is irrevocable.

This right is the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own fate, like all other nations, in their own sovereign State.

ACCORDINGLY WE, MEMBERS OF THE PEOPLE'S COUNCIL, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OF ERETZ-ISRAEL AND OF THE ZIONIST MOVEMENT, ARE HERE ASSEMBLED ON THE DAY OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER ERETZ-ISRAEL AND, BY VIRTUE OF OUR NATURAL AND HISTORIC RIGHT AND ON THE STRENGTH OF THE RESOLUTION OF THE UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY, HEREBY DECLARE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH STATE IN ERETZ-ISRAEL, TO BE KNOWN AS THE STATE OF ISRAEL.

WE DECLARE that, with effect from the moment of the termination of the Mandate being tonight, the eve of Sabbath, the 6th Iyar, 5708 (15th May, 1948), until the establishment of the elected, regular authorities of the State in accordance with the Constitution which shall be adopted by the Elected Constituent Assembly not later than the 1st October 1948, the People's Council shall act as a Provisional Council of State, and its executive organ, the People's Administration, shall be the Provisional Government of the Jewish State, to be called "Israel".

THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

THE STATE OF ISRAEL is prepared to cooperate with the agencies and representatives of the United Nations in implementing the resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947, and will take steps to bring about the economic union of the whole of Eretz-Israel.

WE APPEAL to the United Nations to assist the Jewish people in the building-up of its State and to receive the State of Israel into the comity of nations.

WE APPEAL - in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.

WE EXTEND our hand to all neighbouring states and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighbourliness, and appeal to them to establish bonds of cooperation and mutual help with the sovereign Jewish people settled in its own land. The State of Israel is prepared to do its share in a common effort for the advancement of the entire Middle East.

WE APPEAL to the Jewish people throughout the Diaspora to rally round the Jews of Eretz-Israel in the tasks of immigration and upbuilding and to stand by them in the great struggle for the realization of the age-old dream - the redemption of Israel.

PLACING OUR TRUST IN THE "ROCK OF ISRAEL", WE AFFIX OUR SIGNATURES TO THIS PROCLAMATION AT THIS SESSION OF THE PROVISIONAL COUNCIL OF STATE, ON THE SOIL OF THE HOMELAND, IN THE CITY OF TEL-AVIV, ON THIS SABBATH EVE, THE 5TH DAY OF IYAR, 5708 (14TH MAY,1948).

Beautiful.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

The undeclared territory in 1948 (after the termination of the Mandate) was technically under the administration of the UN Trustee System; NOT Palestinian.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, now you're close.

(COMMENT)

The community will allow the entity to exist in name, but you will notice that the All-Palestine Government was ignored, and many time denied an opportunity to participate on the Question of Palestine.

Eventually, the Egyptian Government dissolved the All-Palestine Government (APG). It never was able to get off the ground.

I noticed that the APG sent several times complained that they were not invited to key meetings.

Most Respectfully,
R

but you will notice that the All-Palestine Government was ignored,​

Probably because they were occupied. A country does not cease to exist just because it is occupied.

But it wasnt a country as the land was already claimed by another nation under existing international laws. The APG tried to ignore those laws because they worked for the Jews and failed. Could I claim your property was mine in the same way the APG did with Israel ?

The Palestinians claimed independence in Palestine.

Foreigners claimed Israel's independence in Palestine. The land was not up for grabs. Even Rocco said that the land was not up for grabs. And, even the UN said that the land was Palestine in 1949 after the Palestinian's declaration.

(COMMENT)

1. Acknowledges the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the
Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988;

2. Affirms the need to enable the Palestinian people to exercise their
sovereignty over their territory occupied since 1967;

3. Decides that, effective as of 15 December 1988, the designation
"Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation
Organization" in the United Nations system, without prejudice to the observer
status and functions of the Palestine Liberation Organization within the
United Nations system, in conformity with relevant United Nations resolutions
and practice;
SOURCE: A/RES/43/177

Actually no, that was for political purposes to get the Armistice signed. The Arab League refused to recognize Israel. But it was not "Palestine." If there had been a "Palestine" then there would have been an Armistice with Palestine.

In the announcement for the Successor Government, absent the Israeli Declaration, Palestine was a legal entity formerly under the Mandate for Palestine.

{center] View attachment 87082 [/center]
• "After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing.

However, as this was written before the 15 May Declaration of Independence, it did not discuss independence other than to say: "will not be immediately self-governing."

Most Respectfully,
R

Trusteeship Council, one of the principal organs of the United Nations (UN), designed to supervise the government of trust territories and to lead them to self-government or independence.

The international supervision of colonial territories was introduced in 1919 by U.S. Pres. Woodrow Wilson at the Paris Peace Conference, which created the mandate system of the League of Nations. The trusteeship system, like the mandate system, was established on the premise that colonial territories taken from countries defeated in war should not be annexed by the victorious powers but should be administered by a trust country under international supervision until their future status was determined. Unlike the mandate system, the trusteeship system invited petitions from trust territories on their independence and required periodic international missions to the territories.

In 1945 only 12 League of Nations mandates remained: Nauru, New Guinea, Ruanda-Urundi, Togoland and Cameroon (French administered), Togoland and Cameroon (British administered), the Pacific Islands (Carolines, Marshalls, and Marianas), Western Samoa, South West Africa, Tanganyika, and Palestine. All these mandates became trust territories except South West Africa (now Namibia), which South Africa refused to enter into the trusteeship system.

Trusteeship Council | UN

And what has this to do with Israel responding to illegal weapons being fired at them ?

 

[Phoenall]

But it wasnt a country as the land was already claimed by another nation under existing international laws. The APG tried to ignore those laws because they worked for the Jews and failed. Could I claim your property was mine in the same way the APG did with Israel ?

The Palestinians claimed independence in Palestine.

Foreigners claimed Israel's independence in Palestine. The land was not up for grabs. Even Rocco said that the land was not up for grabs. And, even the UN said that the land was Palestine in 1949 after the Palestinian's declaration.

The APG were foreingers from the arab league and had refused the UN resolution.The Jews had accepted UN resolution 181 and had already declared independence 6 month prior to the arab league attempt at stealing Jewish land. The land was not up for grabs as it had already been grabbed by the Jews under existing International laws. The used the term as the LoN used it, a truncated version of the MANDATE OF PALESTINE as you have been shown thousands of times in the past. Why is it when you dont like the truth you try to ignore it exists and keep asking for the same links to prove you wrong.




Again could I claim your property as mine in the same way the APG tried to claim Israel in 1948 ? And the Un followed tradition in 1945 to the present day by calling it palestine as a short version of MANDATE OF PALESTINE as detailed in UN resolutions.

The land was not up for grabs as it had already been grabbed by the Jews under existing International laws.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/guide/pages/declaration of establishment of state of israel.aspx



THE DECLARATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL
May 14, 1948

On May 14, 1948, on the day in which the British Mandate over a Palestine expired, the Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum, and approved the following proclamation, declaring the establishment of the State of Israel. The new state was recognized that night by the United States and three days later by the USSR.

Text:

ERETZ-ISRAEL [(Hebrew) - the Land of Israel, Palestine] was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood, created cultural values of national and universal significance and gave to the world the eternal Book of Books.
After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people kept faith with it throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom.

Impelled by this historic and traditional attachment, Jews strove in every successive generation to re-establish themselves in their ancient homeland. In recent decades they returned in their masses. Pioneers, ma'pilim [(Hebrew) - immigrants coming to Eretz-Israel in defiance of restrictive legislation] and defenders, they made deserts bloom, revived the Hebrew language, built villages and towns, and created a thriving community controlling its own economy and culture, loving peace but knowing how to defend itself, bringing the blessings of progress to all the country's inhabitants, and aspiring towards independent nationhood.

In the year 5657 (1897), at the summons of the spiritual father of the Jewish State, Theodore Herzl, the First Zionist Congress convened and proclaimed the right of the Jewish people to national rebirth in its own country.

This right was recognized in the Balfour Declaration of the 2nd November, 1917, and re-affirmed in the Mandate of the League of Nations which, in particular, gave international sanction to the historic connection between the Jewish people and Eretz-Israel and to the right of the Jewish people to rebuild its National Home.

The catastrophe which recently befell the Jewish people - the massacre of millions of Jews in Europe - was another clear demonstration of the urgency of solving the problem of its homelessness by re-establishing in Eretz-Israel the Jewish State, which would open the gates of the homeland wide to every Jew and confer upon the Jewish people the status of a fully privileged member of the comity of nations.

Survivors of the Nazi holocaust in Europe, as well as Jews from other parts of the world, continued to migrate to Eretz-Israel, undaunted by difficulties, restrictions and dangers, and never ceased to assert their right to a life of dignity, freedom and honest toil in their national homeland.

In the Second World War, the Jewish community of this country contributed its full share to the struggle of the freedom- and peace-loving nations against the forces of Nazi wickedness and, by the blood of its soldiers and its war effort, gained the right to be reckoned among the peoples who founded the United Nations.

On the 29th November, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish State in Eretz-Israel; the General Assembly required the inhabitants of Eretz-Israel to take such steps as were necessary on their part for the implementation of that resolution. This recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish people to establish their State is irrevocable.

This right is the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own fate, like all other nations, in their own sovereign State.

ACCORDINGLY WE, MEMBERS OF THE PEOPLE'S COUNCIL, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OF ERETZ-ISRAEL AND OF THE ZIONIST MOVEMENT, ARE HERE ASSEMBLED ON THE DAY OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER ERETZ-ISRAEL AND, BY VIRTUE OF OUR NATURAL AND HISTORIC RIGHT AND ON THE STRENGTH OF THE RESOLUTION OF THE UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY, HEREBY DECLARE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH STATE IN ERETZ-ISRAEL, TO BE KNOWN AS THE STATE OF ISRAEL.

WE DECLARE that, with effect from the moment of the termination of the Mandate being tonight, the eve of Sabbath, the 6th Iyar, 5708 (15th May, 1948), until the establishment of the elected, regular authorities of the State in accordance with the Constitution which shall be adopted by the Elected Constituent Assembly not later than the 1st October 1948, the People's Council shall act as a Provisional Council of State, and its executive organ, the People's Administration, shall be the Provisional Government of the Jewish State, to be called "Israel".

THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.

THE STATE OF ISRAEL is prepared to cooperate with the agencies and representatives of the United Nations in implementing the resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947, and will take steps to bring about the economic union of the whole of Eretz-Israel.

WE APPEAL to the United Nations to assist the Jewish people in the building-up of its State and to receive the State of Israel into the comity of nations.

WE APPEAL - in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.

WE EXTEND our hand to all neighbouring states and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighbourliness, and appeal to them to establish bonds of cooperation and mutual help with the sovereign Jewish people settled in its own land. The State of Israel is prepared to do its share in a common effort for the advancement of the entire Middle East.

WE APPEAL to the Jewish people throughout the Diaspora to rally round the Jews of Eretz-Israel in the tasks of immigration and upbuilding and to stand by them in the great struggle for the realization of the age-old dream - the redemption of Israel.

PLACING OUR TRUST IN THE "ROCK OF ISRAEL", WE AFFIX OUR SIGNATURES TO THIS PROCLAMATION AT THIS SESSION OF THE PROVISIONAL COUNCIL OF STATE, ON THE SOIL OF THE HOMELAND, IN THE CITY OF TEL-AVIV, ON THIS SABBATH EVE, THE 5TH DAY OF IYAR, 5708 (14TH MAY,1948).

Beautiful.

Yes an oppressed people coming together as one and declaring to their oppressors NO MORE. And lasting 69 years against far superior forces, defeating the bullies every time they try and take what is not theirs.
The part where they hold out the hand of peace and declare to the world that they want to live in peace and prosperity for ever more should have been accepted in 1948 and we would not have the conflicts we do today