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Indeed. UNWRA is for aid only and has a different definition for people eligible for aid. It has no authority to resolve the problem.Resolution 194 was passed in 1948 to defined refugees and established UNCCP to provide a solution based on resolution 194. UNWRA was established in 1949, with a different definition of refugees based on the need for aid. The UNWRA does not have the authority to resolve the refugee problem.
This is more or less correct.
A couple of interesting things to note:
If the definition of refugees is solely based on need for aide (and I'm not at all convinced that it operates this way) through UNWRA, which has no authority to solve the issue, then that definition would only apply to need for aide and not for the resolution.
I believe that to be correct, however, I believe this is disputed.Based on Article 1D of the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, should assistance through UNWRA cease, Palestinian refugees would be considered under UNHCR -- just like all other refugees in the world.
More correctly, they have a Mandate to facilitate a resolution between the Governments involved.The UNCCP was created by resolution 194 and uses that definition. It has the Mandate to resolve the problem.
Disputed by whom? It seems fairly apparent based on the actual language in the Article. But it brings up an interesting dilemma for the Arab Palestinians who wish to destroy Israel with a flood of "refugees" in that there are very, very few Arabs who would fit the proper, universal definition of refugee. I can't see any reason why the definition of "refugee" used by UNWRA, as you correctly claim for determination of aide, should be the definition used for "right of return". Can you?I believe that to be correct, however, I believe this is disputed.
Indeed. UNWRA is for aid only and has a different definition for people eligible for aid. It has no authority to resolve the problem.Resolution 194 was passed in 1948 to defined refugees and established UNCCP to provide a solution based on resolution 194. UNWRA was established in 1949, with a different definition of refugees based on the need for aid. The UNWRA does not have the authority to resolve the refugee problem.
This is more or less correct.
A couple of interesting things to note:
If the definition of refugees is solely based on need for aide (and I'm not at all convinced that it operates this way) through UNWRA, which has no authority to solve the issue, then that definition would only apply to need for aide and not for the resolution.
The UNCCP was created by resolution 194 and uses that definition. It has the Mandate to resolve the problem.
I believe that to be correct, however, I believe this is disputed.Based on Article 1D of the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, should assistance through UNWRA cease, Palestinian refugees would be considered under UNHCR -- just like all other refugees in the world.
- Other alternatives that must be considered include transferring protection to an existing or new international agency.
During its early years of operation, the UNCCP attempted to intervene with state parties to promote and protect the internationally-recognized rights of the refugees; promote measures to improve the situation of refugees; preserve and promote the restitution of refugee properties, and; promote durable solutions for refugees, including repatriation, resettlement, restitution, and compensation based on the unconditional principle of refugee choice.Indeed. UNWRA is for aid only and has a different definition for people eligible for aid. It has no authority to resolve the problem.Resolution 194 was passed in 1948 to defined refugees and established UNCCP to provide a solution based on resolution 194. UNWRA was established in 1949, with a different definition of refugees based on the need for aid. The UNWRA does not have the authority to resolve the refugee problem.
This is more or less correct.
A couple of interesting things to note:
If the definition of refugees is solely based on need for aide (and I'm not at all convinced that it operates this way) through UNWRA, which has no authority to solve the issue, then that definition would only apply to need for aide and not for the resolution.
The UNCCP was created by resolution 194 and uses that definition. It has the Mandate to resolve the problem.
I believe that to be correct, however, I believe this is disputed.Based on Article 1D of the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, should assistance through UNWRA cease, Palestinian refugees would be considered under UNHCR -- just like all other refugees in the world.
Smoke and mirrors, both non-functional, point is all other refugees in the world are serviced by UNHCR, and get results with half the budget.
This is even the opinion of the Palestinian Center for Refugee Rights:
- "The experience of the UNCCP raises the question about what kind of international agency should be responsible for the protection of Palestinian refugees. Clearly, an unreformed UNCCP would be unable to provide the full range of protection afforded to all other refugees. Reform of the Commission's mandate, on the other hand, would require political and financial support from the international community. It must also be considered whether the UNCCP is the appropriate body functionally, given the fact that the Commission has little practical experience related to the implementation of durable solutions.
https://www.badil.org/phocadownload/Badil_docs/bulletins-and-briefs/Brief-No.5.pdf
- Other alternatives that must be considered include transferring protection to an existing or new international agency. While Palestinian refugees have been regarded as outside the provisions of the 1951 Refugee Convention and the international protection provided by the UNHCR, a reinterpretation of the status of Palestinian refugees under Article 1D of the Convention indicates that Palestinian refugees should, in fact, be afforded protection by the UNHCR, due to the cessation of protection under the UNCCP.(36) The political, functional, and financial implications of UNHCR involvement must also be addressed before a decision is taken with regard to the most appropriate address for international protection of Palestinian refugees."
Link?Yep. All of the actual refugees -- that is, those who were born before 1948 and who resided in the Mandate Palestine territory and remain outside their country of nationality or are stateless -- should be transferred to UNHRC and treated according to their standards.
- Other alternatives that must be considered include transferring protection to an existing or new international agency.
Any country which has intentionally withheld citizenship from Stateless descendants of refugees, in contravention to several international laws, should be immediately required to grant citizenship.
All those refugees and descendants with citizenship in another State are already protected citizens of that State and need no further assistance.
Those people wishing to return home to the Arab-controlled areas of "Palestine" should be expedited immediately.
Since ALL refugees under UNGA 194 require compensation, I suggest the Arab countries who expelled their Jews, or incited conditions which required their Jews to leave, be required to provide that compensation and I suggest further that those Jews, having already been re-established in Israel, pass that compensation along to Arab welfare agencies for the re-establishment of descendants in Palestine.
If Palestine, Gaza and other States impacted by the changes require additional funding to improve infrastructure to accommodate these changes (building of schools, medical facilities, etc which seems to be the majority of UNWRA expenditures) that funding be given on that basis, with the understanding of a gradual withdrawal of funds as infrastructure is put in place and authority transfers away from the funding agencies into the States.
Solves all of the humanitarian problems. Prevents the deliberate destruction of Israel. Sound solution.
Link?Yep. All of the actual refugees -- that is, those who were born before 1948 and who resided in the Mandate Palestine territory and remain outside their country of nationality or are stateless -- should be transferred to UNHRC and treated according to their standards.
- Other alternatives that must be considered include transferring protection to an existing or new international agency.
Any country which has intentionally withheld citizenship from Stateless descendants of refugees, in contravention to several international laws, should be immediately required to grant citizenship.
All those refugees and descendants with citizenship in another State are already protected citizens of that State and need no further assistance.
Those people wishing to return home to the Arab-controlled areas of "Palestine" should be expedited immediately.
Since ALL refugees under UNGA 194 require compensation, I suggest the Arab countries who expelled their Jews, or incited conditions which required their Jews to leave, be required to provide that compensation and I suggest further that those Jews, having already been re-established in Israel, pass that compensation along to Arab welfare agencies for the re-establishment of descendants in Palestine.
If Palestine, Gaza and other States impacted by the changes require additional funding to improve infrastructure to accommodate these changes (building of schools, medical facilities, etc which seems to be the majority of UNWRA expenditures) that funding be given on that basis, with the understanding of a gradual withdrawal of funds as infrastructure is put in place and authority transfers away from the funding agencies into the States.
Solves all of the humanitarian problems. Prevents the deliberate destruction of Israel. Sound solution.
That whole group in the UN are a bunch or Racist and in most cases the Nation they are from are racist from the get go. Also they hate the US and I would support us leaving the UN and having them vacate the building they are in. And pay the parking tickets they owe New York.Rumor has it Israel is going to make a push at the UN to have UNRWA defunded and dissolved, and hopes the US will support her by withdrawing funding from the organization. Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely meets with US administration and members of Congress this week to discuss.
She claims the return of refugees (and all their descendants) is a key obstacle to peace, and if that option was removed from the Palestinian mindset, peace would be more likely achievable. She claims (and I agree wholeheartedly) that the return of the refugees descendants is intended primarily to reverse Jewish self-determination and destroy the nation of Israel.
I'll also point out that the idea of refugee status being a hereditary condition is unprecedented in history and in international law.
Much larger than it is now. Check the maps of history...much much larger land mass.Is that why Israel expelled 750,000 Palestinians in 1948 and continues to expel them today?
Did the surrounding ME countries expel their Jews because they WANTED the Jews on Jewish land and not on their land?
What land is Jewish land?
It all goes down to providing a single political group with special privileges and money on behalf of all other refugees in the world.
There's no point in funding any Palestinian specialized organization that is aimed at keeping refugees perpetually in that status while spending 4 times the budget of UNHCR
Yep. All of the actual refugees -- that is, those who were born before 1948 and who resided in the Mandate Palestine territory and remain outside their country of nationality or are stateless -- should be transferred to UNHRC and treated according to their standards.
- Other alternatives that must be considered include transferring protection to an existing or new international agency.
Any country which has intentionally withheld citizenship from Stateless descendants of refugees, in contravention to several international laws, should be immediately required to grant citizenship.
All those refugees and descendants with citizenship in another State are already protected citizens of that State and need no further assistance.
Those people wishing to return home to the Arab-controlled areas of "Palestine" should be expedited immediately.
Since ALL refugees under UNGA 194 require compensation, I suggest the Arab countries who expelled their Jews, or incited conditions which required their Jews to leave, be required to provide that compensation and I suggest further that those Jews, having already been re-established in Israel, pass that compensation along to Arab welfare agencies for the re-establishment of descendants in Palestine.
If Palestine, Gaza and other States impacted by the changes require additional funding to improve infrastructure to accommodate these changes (building of schools, medical facilities, etc which seems to be the majority of UNWRA expenditures) that funding be given on that basis, with the understanding of a gradual withdrawal of funds as infrastructure is put in place and authority transfers away from the funding agencies into the States.
Solves all of the humanitarian problems. Prevents the deliberate destruction of Israel. Sound solution.
It all goes down to providing a single political group with special privileges and money on behalf of all other refugees in the world.
There's no point in funding any Palestinian specialized organization that is aimed at keeping refugees perpetually in that status while spending 4 times the budget of UNHCR
It is the obligation of the Parties involved (all of them) and the international community to create conditions in which refugees cease to be refugees. That is the point of all international law with respect to refugees.
The idea that descendants of refugees are still considered refugees despite having met conditions which end refugee-status is ridiculous.
It all goes down to providing a single political group with special privileges and money on behalf of all other refugees in the world.
There's no point in funding any Palestinian specialized organization that is aimed at keeping refugees perpetually in that status while spending 4 times the budget of UNHCR
It is the obligation of the Parties involved (all of them) and the international community to create conditions in which refugees cease to be refugees. That is the point of all international law with respect to refugees.
The idea that descendants of refugees are still considered refugees despite having met conditions which end refugee-status is ridiculous.
It is certainly ridiculous when American born super models are considered refugees.
According to that logic at least 55% of Israeli Jews are eligible for the same status as Palestinians refugees.
