CDZ Isn't smaller governance better?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'm not ignoring, I just don't feel the need to engage everyone who has an opinion.

Uh...those were the opinions of Danish citizens. You asked why they were happy. It is literally the topic of this thread. They answered. And you ignore them?

I think we know why you ignored them.

The topic of my thread is whether or not having smaller government is better than larger government. One reason I posited that places like Denmark and Sweden might be happier than those in other nations is that they are small nations with more of a "local" federalized government, unlike the U.S. or China or Russia, etc.

I see.

 

[Tehon]

I would think it depends largely on the tax base.

I believe it's a matter the state should address.

I agree, the states need to do better job.

 

[rightwinger]

We hear about how Denmark, Sweden, etc. are the happiest nations. I don't know if that's true or not but, they are smaller populations. Is it possible that they do well because they are smaller?

For that matter, the smaller and closer to home is our governance, is it not better?

From what I can gather, the left typically likes to consolidate huge swathes of people and govern them from one, centralized government. But, as far as I can tell, government is better when it's smaller and more localized.

What say you?

We have a population of 330 million, the largest economy in the history of mankind, the largest military

Why would we settle for small government ???

I didn't say we should have a "small" government, whatever that would entail.

I do believe that we would be better off if we did LESS governing at the federal level in as I believe there are some things that local government can do better, such as, for example, managing our public schools.

I think the level of government that is best suited should perform the function

I don’t want the federal government plowing the road in front of my house
I also don’t want my town chipping in to buy a Joint Strike Fighter

 

[oldsoul]

Hey, if you have a better system, I'm all ears.

Don't believe that for a second.

Well, then I guess we have nothing further to discuss.

BTW though, maybe you should test your theory, I just may surprise you.

 

[dblack]

I tend to see it as a failure of society at large to produce desirable results in the distribution of our material needs. There are many reasons people slip through the cracks, economically speaking. Neither of your ideas addresses that fact.

Well, I'm not a socialist. Government has no business 'addressing' the distribution of our material needs.

 

[Tehon]

I tend to see it as a failure of society at large to produce desirable results in the distribution of our material needs. There are many reasons people slip through the cracks, economically speaking. Neither of your ideas addresses that fact.

Well, I'm not a socialist. Government has no business 'addressing' the distribution of our material needs.

I am, and I agree with you.

 

[rightwinger]

I tend to see it as a failure of society at large to produce desirable results in the distribution of our material needs. There are many reasons people slip through the cracks, economically speaking. Neither of your ideas addresses that fact.

Well, I'm not a socialist. Government has no business 'addressing' the distribution of our material needs.

Government has a responsibility to help those who need help

 

[Tehon]

I tend to see it as a failure of society at large to produce desirable results in the distribution of our material needs. There are many reasons people slip through the cracks, economically speaking. Neither of your ideas addresses that fact.

Well, I'm not a socialist. Government has no business 'addressing' the distribution of our material needs.

Government has a responsibility to help those who need help

It really doesn't nor should you expect it to. There is a large population of people in this country who see it as theft (I'm not one) but seen from their perspective they aren't wrong.

 

[rightwinger]

I tend to see it as a failure of society at large to produce desirable results in the distribution of our material needs. There are many reasons people slip through the cracks, economically speaking. Neither of your ideas addresses that fact.

Well, I'm not a socialist. Government has no business 'addressing' the distribution of our material needs.

Government has a responsibility to help those who need help

It really doesn't nor should you expect it to. There is a large population of people in this country who see it as theft (I'm not one) but seen from their perspective they aren't wrong.

It is how societies function

 

[Tehon]

I tend to see it as a failure of society at large to produce desirable results in the distribution of our material needs. There are many reasons people slip through the cracks, economically speaking. Neither of your ideas addresses that fact.

Well, I'm not a socialist. Government has no business 'addressing' the distribution of our material needs.

Government has a responsibility to help those who need help

It really doesn't nor should you expect it to. There is a large population of people in this country who see it as theft (I'm not one) but seen from their perspective they aren't wrong.

It is how societies function

It is how dysfunctional societies function.

 

[rightwinger]

I tend to see it as a failure of society at large to produce desirable results in the distribution of our material needs. There are many reasons people slip through the cracks, economically speaking. Neither of your ideas addresses that fact.

Well, I'm not a socialist. Government has no business 'addressing' the distribution of our material needs.

Government has a responsibility to help those who need help

It really doesn't nor should you expect it to. There is a large population of people in this country who see it as theft (I'm not one) but seen from their perspective they aren't wrong.

It is how societies function

It is how dysfunctional societies function.

It is why we formed societies. The whole is stronger than the individual pieces. One of the benefits of a society is it will take care of its weakest members......unless it is a Nazi society

 

[Keroplatidae]

How you feel on this issue is based on which of these statements you believe is most true ...

1. Government causes more problems than it solves

Or

2. Government solves more problems than it creates.

What about the crazy people populating the earth like maggots? I mean a politician f**king a prostitute doesn't exactly make a government create a problem yet it is left for the government to solve.

 

[Keroplatidae]

Well, I'm not a socialist. Government has no business 'addressing' the distribution of our material needs.

Government has a responsibility to help those who need help

It really doesn't nor should you expect it to. There is a large population of people in this country who see it as theft (I'm not one) but seen from their perspective they aren't wrong.

It is how societies function

It is how dysfunctional societies function.

It is why we formed societies. The whole is stronger than the individual pieces. One of the benefits of a society is it will take care of its weakest members......unless it is a Nazi society

Please no more

When did that ever happen anywhere? The individual pieces build the whole. The whole is a strong and the pieces counted together.

 

[Tehon]

Well, I'm not a socialist. Government has no business 'addressing' the distribution of our material needs.

Government has a responsibility to help those who need help

It really doesn't nor should you expect it to. There is a large population of people in this country who see it as theft (I'm not one) but seen from their perspective they aren't wrong.

It is how societies function

It is how dysfunctional societies function.

It is why we formed societies. The whole is stronger than the individual pieces. One of the benefits of a society is it will take care of its weakest members......unless it is a Nazi society

I know why we form society. We have to organize it better. We need to seal the cracks that allow people to fall into need in the first place.

 

[rightwinger]

Government has a responsibility to help those who need help

It really doesn't nor should you expect it to. There is a large population of people in this country who see it as theft (I'm not one) but seen from their perspective they aren't wrong.

It is how societies function

It is how dysfunctional societies function.

It is why we formed societies. The whole is stronger than the individual pieces. One of the benefits of a society is it will take care of its weakest members......unless it is a Nazi society

Please no more

When did that ever happen anywhere? The individual pieces build the whole. The whole is a strong and the pieces counted together.

The whole is stronger than the individual pieces. It is how humans came to dominate the earth

 

[fncceo]

We need to seal the cracks that allow people to fall into need in the first place.

Many people, in my experience, don't fall into the crack. They fight tooth and nail to get into them. It's not a few bad decisions that get you to the bottom of society. It's a steady stream of deliberately bad decisions from early adulthood.

 

[rightwinger]

We need to seal the cracks that allow people to fall into need in the first place.

Many people, in my experience, don't fall into the crack. They fight tooth and nail to get into them. It's not a few bad decisions that get you to the bottom of society. It's a steady stream of deliberately bad decisions from early adulthood.

Blame the victim

 

[Keroplatidae]

It really doesn't nor should you expect it to. There is a large population of people in this country who see it as theft (I'm not one) but seen from their perspective they aren't wrong.

It is how societies function

It is how dysfunctional societies function.

It is why we formed societies. The whole is stronger than the individual pieces. One of the benefits of a society is it will take care of its weakest members......unless it is a Nazi society

Please no more

When did that ever happen anywhere? The individual pieces build the whole. The whole is a strong and the pieces counted together.

The whole is stronger than the individual pieces. It is how humans came to dominate the earth

That doesn't make any sense.. are you talking about the mammals, or societies? Whichever still dont make sense. The whole doesn't exist without the pieces. 1+1+1=3 three is the whole. However of the pieces are a mere half you have 1 and half.

 

[Keroplatidae]

We need to seal the cracks that allow people to fall into need in the first place.

Many people, in my experience, don't fall into the crack. They fight tooth and nail to get into them. It's not a few bad decisions that get you to the bottom of society. It's a steady stream of deliberately bad decisions from early adulthood.

Sometimes they have only bad options from early babyhood.

 

[rightwinger]

It is how societies function

It is how dysfunctional societies function.

It is why we formed societies. The whole is stronger than the individual pieces. One of the benefits of a society is it will take care of its weakest members......unless it is a Nazi society

Please no more

When did that ever happen anywhere? The individual pieces build the whole. The whole is a strong and the pieces counted together.

The whole is stronger than the individual pieces. It is how humans came to dominate the earth

That doesn't make any sense.. are you talking about the mammals, or societies? Whichever still dont make sense. The whole doesn't exist without the pieces. 1+1+1=3 three is the whole. However of the pieces are a mere half you have 1 and half.

Not true

The productivity of a whole society exceeds that of the individuals
It is what made Great societies so powerful