Islam's racism against Blacks

[Unkotare]

Islam came to Africa as early at the 8th century, and was adopted throughout the Gold Coast as well as the Swahili Coast. The first place Islam spread via merchants rather than armies. Racism is a sickness of weak, cowardly humans everywhere and everywhen but not specific to any particular faith (whatever else may be said about this or that faith).

The people cited in the link are Muslim SCHOLARS (SCHOLARS of Islam,) friend.



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And that changes nothing about my post, buffoon.

 

[Roudy]

Adam & Eve were white. Therefore, God was white. Thread closed.

The Big Guy's race wouldn't matter to me, but I'll bet He married a White woman haha.



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Well isn't that the first thing that blacks do when they become famous or rich? Find themselves a nice piece of white ass. Ha ha ha.

 

[Iron Head]

Excellent topic. We need to get these two groups hating and fighting one another. Then we only have to get rid of one of them - the winner of their race war!

 

[Anonymous1977]

And that changes nothing about my post, buffoon.

Medication good my man (haha)



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[Anonymous1977]

Well isn't that the first thing that blacks do when they become famous or rich? Find themselves a nice piece of white ass. Ha ha ha.

I wouldn't know about that but judging from Blacks preferring to live in majority White countries and not majority Black countries, I would say that everyone can agree that the White woman tends to be superior to the Black woman.



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[Anonymous1977]

Excellent topic. We need to get these two groups hating and fighting one another. Then we only have to get rid of one of them - the winner of their race war!

As a Black (but not a Negro) myself hopefully physical war will not take place but the Mosh High God's Will be done...



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[Unkotare]

And that changes nothing about my post, buffoon.

Medication good my man (haha)



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Good luck with that.

 

[Anonymous1977]

Good luck with that.

Lol



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[Asclepias]

Bullshit. Show me where it says god cant have a race. If man was created in gods image then god is Black. He is even described as having hair like wool. Sorry white boy.

Here is a description of god.

Dan 7:9
I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

Everyone that has hair like wool isn't Black:

Your brain LOLOL:

LOLOLOL



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Everyone that has hair like wool is Black.

 

[Asclepias]

Adam & Eve were white. Therefore, God was white. Thread closed.

Adman and Eve were Black. Therefore god is Black. Thread reopened.

 

[Asclepias]

So you wrote all that but cant provide anything that says god does not have a race? Yes "in the image" of god. The first humans were Black and they look like god. Sorry white guy.

The New Testament says that God does not have a race, you jack-*ss LOLOL:

1 John 4:8
King James Version (KJV)
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.



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Where does it say that? I hope that verse is not your evidence.

 

[Unkotare]

Good luck with that.

Lol



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You've never even heard of the Gold Coast or Great Zimbabwe, have you? The Indus Valley means nothing to you, does it?

 

[Asclepias]

Actually anybody who attributes and emphasizes a "race" for God would be a person of extremely low intellect, and defeating the whole purpose and meaning of God and religion in the first place.

"God" would have absolutely no need of a body, let alone a race, let alone a gender, let alone an age that gives "him" a long white beard. All of these anthropomorphisms underscore his origins in human imagination. Hard to believe the whole world doesn't immediately see right through this ruse.


-- If "God" is male, who's "Mrs. God" that makes him male? Who did he date before? How did they meet? Who performed their wedding? If no one, are they "living in sin"?
-- If "God" has a body -- what doctor does "he" go to when it breaks down? What if "he" breaks an arm?
-- If "God" is an old man -- what did "he" do when he was younger? Is all this just a retirement hobby?

etc etc etc.....

Therein lies the clue that christianity is the result of someone not completely understanding what they were taught or the principles of life. Christianity is simply based on a religion practiced by the ancient Black Egyptians and based on the cult of Horus or as the Greeks called him Apollo.

Actually Christianity is the closest to Mithraism from ancient Persia, (mixed with Judaism, of course), which was one of the dominant religions in Rome at the time. And it is not the first time a ruler or religious leader is deemed "son of God."

Mithraism or Christianity?

This religion, cloaked in mystery and secrecy, has captivated the imaginations of scholars for generations. Many facts discovered sheds vital light on the cultural dynamics that led to the rise of Christianity. The National Geographic Society’s book “Great Religions of the World,” page 309 writes; “By Jesus’ time, East and West had mingled here for three centuries. Down columns of boulevards walked Roman soldiers loyal to the Persian god Mithras.” Mithras was a Persian deity. He was also the most widely venerated god in the Roman Empire at the time of Jesus. The Catholic Encyclopedia as well as the early Church Fathers found this religion of Mithras very disturbing, as there are so many similarities between the two religions, as follows:


1) Hundreds of years before Jesus, according to the Mithraic religion, three Wise Men of Persia came to visit the baby savior-god Mithra, bring him gifts of gold, myrrh and frankincense.

2) Mithra was born on December 25 as told in the “Great Religions of the World”, page 330; “…it was the winter solstice celebrated by ancients as the birthday of Mithraism’s sun god”.

3) According to Mithraism, before Mithra died on a cross, he celebrated a “Last Supper with his twelve disciples, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac.

4) After the death of Mithra, his body was laid to rest in a rock tomb.

5) Mithra had a celibate priesthood.

6) Mithra ascended into heaven during the spring (Passover) equinox (the time when the sun crosses the equator making night and day of equal length).


As you can now see, Christianity derived many of its essential elements from the ancient religion of Mithraism. Mithraism became intertwined with the cult of Jesus to form what is known today as “Christianity.” Although literary sources on this religion are sparse, an abundance of material evidence exists in the many Mithraic temples and artifacts that archaeologists have found scattered throughout the Roman Empire, from England in the north and west to Palestine in the south and east. The temples were usually built underground in caves, which are filled with an extremely elaborate iconography (illustrating by pictures, figures and images). There were many hundreds of Mithraic temples in the Roman Empire, the greatest concentrations have been found in the city of Rome itself.


We often hear about how many of the traditions, rites and symbols of modern day "Christian" holidays have their roots in paganism. Have you ever wondered why December 25th was chosen to celebrate the birth of Jesus? Could it only be a consequence that ancient paganism and the story of Mithras' birth coincides with the Yule/Christmas season? If the accounts in the Bible are correct, the time of Jesus birth would have been closer to mid-summer, for this is when shepherds would have been "tending their flocks in the field " and the new lambs were born. Strange enough, the ancient pagan religion, Mithraism, which dates back over 4,000 years, also celebrated the birth of their "saviour" on December 25th. Franz Cumont, who is consider by many to be the leading research authority on Roman Paganism, explained the ancient religion called Mithraism.


Then Mithras returned to the earth to teach humanity His commandments and begin Mysteries and Rites which would help humans remember His acts on our behalf. Because of His actions, we can choose good without the overwhelming power of evil, even though evil's influence can still seem powerful because our minds believe it is. Because of His teachings, we know that the purpose of our lives is to serve others in the name of Mithras. The followers refer to Him as the "Light of the World" a phrase often used also in Christian faith when referring to Jesus.


This son of a god born of a virgin, was so commonly spread in those days that Philo of Alexandria (30 BCE - 45 CE), warned against this widespread superstitious belief in unions between male gods and human females. The offspring’s are known as demigods.


Tammuz, who was incorporated also into Attis and Mithras, and they stood model for the story in the NT, because they were deities who all are supposed to have died and resurrected. Tammuz was always called Adon, meaning Lord. (the Greek Adonis, was based on him). Actually all these deities were based on the first deity to have died and resurrected, the Egyptian deity Osiris. So there is absolutely nothing unique about Jesus. In fact he is copyright due to Osiris.


Of the following (semi) deities, legends went around that they were born of a virgin:


Augustus (his father was the god Apollo) Agdistis Attis
Adonis Buddha Dionysus
Korybas Krishna Mithras
Osirus Perseus Romulus and Remus
Tammuz Zoroaster Jesus


So basically, all the pagan religions were alike, including Christianity. It just happens that one of them got the ascendancy, and became the most powerful, and did its best to wipe out all the others. In addition to a lack of historical support, many characteristics of Jesus, which Christians today believe in, are undeniably similar or identical to religious trends and beliefs that preceded Christianity. There are tens of accounts of pagan gods of many different cultures who were said to have the same attributes as those that Christians claim Jesus had. A brief review of some of these may lead to some interesting questions concerning the originality of the Christian claim:


ATTIS - Phrygia: Born of the virgin Nana on December 25. He was both the Father and the Divine Son. He was a savior crucified on a tree for the salvation of mankind. He was buried but on the third day the priests found the tomb empty -- He had arisen from the dead (on March 25th). He followers were baptized in blood, thereby washing away their sins -- after which they declared themselves "born again." His followers ate a sacred meal of bread, which they believed became the body of the savoir.


BUDDIAH – INDIA: Born of the Virgin Maya on December 25th. He was announced by a star and attended by wise men presenting costly gifts. At birth angles sing heavenly songs. He taught in temple at age 12. Tempted by Mara, the Evil One (Satan), while fasting. He was baptized in water with the Spirit of God present. Buddiah healed the sick and fed 500 from a small basket of cakes and even walked on water. He came to fulfill the law and preached the establishment of a kingdom of righteousness and obliged followers to poverty and to renounce the world. He transfigured on a mount. Died (on a cross, in some traditions), buried but arose again after tomb opened by supernatural powers. Ascended into heaven (Nirvana). Will return in later days to judge the dead. Buddiah was called: "Good Shepherd," "Carpenter," "Alpha and Omega," "Sin Bearer," "Master," "Light of the World," "Redeemer," etc.


DIONYSUS - GREECE: Born of a Virgin on December 25th, placed in a manger. He was a traveling teacher who performed many miracles. Turned water into wine. Followers ate sacred meal that became the body of the god. He rose from the dead March 25th. Identified with the ram and lamb's and was called "King of Kings," "Only Begotten Son," "Savior," "Redeemer," "Sin bearer," "Anointed One," the "Alpha and Omega."


HERACLES – GREECE: Born at the winter equinox of a virgin who refrained from sex with her until her god-begotten child was born and was sacrificed at the spring equinox. He too, was called "Savior," "Only begotten," "Prince of Peace," "Son of Righteousness."


KRISHNA - INDIA: Krishna was born while his foster-father Nanda was in the city to pay his tax to the king. His nativity heralded by a star, Krishna was born of the virgin Devaki in a cave, which at the time of his birth was miraculously illuminated. The cow-herds adored his birth. King Kansa sought the life of the Indian Christ by ordering the massacre of all male children born during the same night at He. Krishna traveled widely, performing miracles -- raising the dead, healing lepers, the deaf and the blind. The crucified Krishna is pictured on the cross with arms extended. Pierced by an arrow while hanging on the cross, Krishna died, but descended into Hell from which He rose again on the third day and ascended into Heaven. (The Gospel of Nicodemus tell of Jesus' descent into Hell.) He will return on the last day to judge the quick and the dead. Krishna is the second person of the Hindu trinity.


OSIRIS – EGYPT: He came to fulfill the law. Called "KRST," the "Anointed One." Born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave / manger, with his birth announced by a star and attended by three wise men. Earthly father named "Seb" (translates to "Joseph.") At age 12 he was a child teacher in the Temple and at 30 he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years. Osiris was baptized in the river Iarutana -- the river Jordan -- by "Anup the Baptizer," who was beheaded. (Anup translates to John.) He performed miracles, exorcised demons, raised El-Osiris from the dead. Walked on water and was betrayed by Typhon, crucified between two thieves on the 17th day of the month of Athyr. Buried in a tomb from which he arose on the third day (19th Athyr) and was resurrected. His suffering, death, and resurrection celebrated each year by His disciples on the Vernal Equinox -- Easter. Called "The Way, the Truth, the Light," "Messiah," "god's Anointed Son,' the "Son of Man," the "Word made Flesh," the "word of truth." Expected to reign a thousand years.



NOTE 1: Persian legends of Mithras says that He was born of the Sun God and a virgin mother, called "the Mother of God", on December 25th. They saw him as a symbol of justice, truth, and loyalty. He was considered the saviour of humankind, and stories abound of His healing the sick, raising the dead, and performing miracles (making the blind see and the lame walk). Throughout His lifetime, He was seen as a protector of human souls, a mediator between "heaven" and "earth" and was even associated with a "holy trinity". He remained celibate, until the ripe old age of 64, throughout his life and preached the virtues of ethics, moral behavior, and good will. Does this sound familiar? Sure sounds like Jesus.


NOTE 2: Ancient Persians believed in a "celestial heaven" and hell. They believed that they would be judged by their god and granted justice of" eternal salvation. On judgement day, the faithful dead would be resurrected and light would triumph over darkness.


NOTE 3: They took part in ritual purification or baptism, held Sundays sacred, drank wine and ate bread as a symbol of the body and blood and even took part in ritualistic purging (purification rites such as flagellation).


NOTE 4: In their legends, Mithras had an "earthly mission' to accomplish. He then was put to death on a cross and buried in a cave (some legends have Him held in a cave to be reborn once a year).


NOTE 5: He then "rose from the dead" and took part in a last supper with his 12 disciples (often associated with the 12 signs of the zodiac) and then ascended to the heavens to watch over His "flock" from above.


As a footnote to all this: The World Book Encyclopedia tells that Mithras was an angel of light who fought on the side against the forces of evil. In the Zoroastrian religion of ancient Persia Mithras was called “the Heavenly Light.” This belief carried to Assyria and Asia Minor where many people identified him with the sun. Mithraism came into the ancient Roman world about 75 BCE., and ranked as a principal competitor of Christianity for 200 years. In addition to a lack of historical support, many characteristics of Jesus, which Christians today believe in, are undeniably similar or identical to religious trends and beliefs that preceded Christianity. There are tens of accounts of pagan gods of many different cultures who were said to have the same attributes as those that Christians claim Jesus had.


Trinity―Trinities were popular in pagan sects before Christianity was introduced to the world. Some of the more well known trinity gods included Mithra-Vohu Mana-Rashnu, Amen-Mut-Khonsu, and Osiris-Isis-Horus.

Virgin Birth―Among the pagan cultures that preceded Christianity, virgin birth stories abounded. The long list of pagan gods born of virgins includes: Romulus and Remus, Zoroaster, Buddha, Mithras, Chrishna, Osiris-Aion, Agdistis, Attis, Tammuz, Adonis, Korybas, Perseus, and Dionysus.

Disciples―In the following 'saviors' cases, a grouping of disciples was present, just as they were present in Jesus' story: Horus, Buddha, Chrishna, Dionysus, Mithra. Interestingly enough, in the case of Dionysus, his disciple Acoetes was a boatman, just as Jesus' disciple Peter. And just as Peter was freed from jail when the doors miraculously flew open, so was Dionysus' disciple Acoetes. In Budda's case, he, like Jesus, demanded that his disciples renounce all worldly possessions. Yet another instance of similarity is that the disciples of both Jesus and Buddha were said to have been arrested for preaching, as well as witnessed to have "walked on water."

Miracles―Among those 'saviors' who, like Jesus, performed countless miracles include: Horus, Chrishna, Buddha, Dionysus, Mithra, Osirus, and Adonis. Horus was said to have walked on water, just as Jesus did. In addition, Horus raised one man, El-Azarus, from the dead in front of countless witnesses. In the case of Buddha, it was told that he fed five hundred men with one loaf of bread, that he cured lepers, and that he caused the blind to see. Dionysus rescued a person from dying when the person was utterly desolate and placed them among the stars. And he gave food and drink, herbs and berries, to the starving people -- not to mention turning water into wine.

The Sun―Here is another common theory, quoted from S. Acharya's "The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus:" "The reason why all these pagan narratives are so similar to a "god-man" is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.

You never seem to have your facts in order. There were 2 forms of Mithraism. One existed prior to the Greeks invading Persia which had died out long before the Romans and then there was a more recent form started up by the Romans. Neither forms of Mithraism. are even close to predating the cult of Horus. All of todays religions have their roots in Egypt or India.

Ancient Egyptian religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Weird how you typed all of that but still cant give me proof god is not a specific race.

My facts are in order. Even Christians do not believe God the Father is a being that exists in flesh. You're just trying to make anybody who ever did anything important be a person of black ancestry because that's how all racists think.

Your facts have never been in order. Thats why you cant provide any.

 

[Asclepias]

Adam & Eve were white. Therefore, God was white. Thread closed.

The Big Guy's race wouldn't matter to me, but I'll bet He married a White woman haha.



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Well isn't that the first thing that blacks do when they become famous or rich? Find themselves a nice piece of white ass. Ha ha ha.

You dont have to find a nice piece of white ass. Typically it hunts you down if you are a Black male and can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

 

[Asclepias]

Excellent topic. We need to get these two groups hating and fighting one another. Then we only have to get rid of one of them - the winner of their race war!

As a Black (but not a Negro) myself hopefully physical war will not take place but the Mosh High God's Will be done...



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You wish you were Black. I understand why though.

 

[Pogo]

Adam & Eve were white. Therefore, God was white. Thread closed.

Adman and Eve were Black. Therefore god is Black. Thread reopened.

Adam and Eve didn't exist. Therefore race doesn't exist. Thread rendered irrelevant.

 

[Asclepias]

Adam & Eve were white. Therefore, God was white. Thread closed.

Adman and Eve were Black. Therefore god is Black. Thread reopened.

Adam and Eve didn't exist. Therefore race doesn't exist. Thread rendered irrelevant.

Of course they existed. Check out Mitochondrial Eve.

Age Confirmed for 'Eve,' Mother of All Humans

 

[Unkotare]

Adam & Eve were white. Therefore, God was white. Thread closed.

Adman and Eve were Black. Therefore god is Black. Thread reopened.

Adam and Eve didn't exist. Therefore race doesn't exist. Thread rendered irrelevant.

And YOU try to pretend at amateur logician? YOU try to play at understanding language?

 

[Roudy]

Adam & Eve were white. Therefore, God was white. Thread closed.

The Big Guy's race wouldn't matter to me, but I'll bet He married a White woman haha.



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Well isn't that the first thing that blacks do when they become famous or rich? Find themselves a nice piece of white ass. Ha ha ha.

You dont have to find a nice piece of white ass. Typically it hunts you down if you are a Black male and can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

Bzzzzz wrong. You are again avoiding the inconvenient truth.

 

[Roudy]

Adam & Eve were white. Therefore, God was white. Thread closed.

Adman and Eve were Black. Therefore god is Black. Thread reopened.

How about you take your Afrocentrism bullshit to one of these black racist boards?

The ideology of black supremacy, of course, is the mirror image of white supremacy. While different groups put their own spin on things, black supremacy often involves the racialist pseudoscience called "melanin theory" and the pseudohistory called "Afrocentrism". The basic idea behind melanin theory is that black is the "natural" skin color because humans originated in Africa, so lighter skin tones are aberrations. Various melanin theorists build on top of this, positing all sorts of biologically unsupportable claims about melanin increasing muscle tone, brain activity, physical ability, etc. Some theories get into really batshit territory, claiming that melanin can grant paranormal powers like ESP.

Afrocentrism and melanin theory often cross-pollinate, but Afrocentrism as a separate concept has a historical rather than biological focus. It's important to separate legitimate historical revisionism from the kind Afrocentrists engage in. The early histories and ethnographies of African cultures were written largely by European historians and anthropologists from an imperialist perspective. Thus, these works are often skewed by racism and filled with factual inaccuracies, and are outdated due to new findings in archaeological and historical scholarship. There have been many revisionist works throughout the 20th and 21st centuries that attempt to look at this history from an African perspective, but remain factual. This is simply an attempt to "correct the record." Afrocentrism, on the other hand, engages in distortion and fabrications of its own. One of the central claims of Afrocentrists is that Egypt was ruled by a black race. They use this to claim that Greco-Roman civilization, and by extension, Western civilization, is actually based on black culture. Working from this point, they rewrite many historical figures like Socrates as having been black and shoehorn various events into the ideology. When called on their bullshit, they tend to justify their factual inaccuracies by claiming that critics are using a Eurocentric methodology that is unable to ascertain a true understanding of history and that only those using the Afrocentric methodology can do so. And just for the record, Ramesses II was a ginger.[1]

Similar crank claims point toward India (implying that the existence of the "Negrito" people, mean that Indian culture comes from black Africans, and the Dravidians are so dark that they must be Africans), China (depictions of people in dark materials, imply they were black, for example, Terracota Army), Japaneses (Jomons would have been black, and so did the Ainu, as they used black bronze in their sculptures, and were painted in light-brown, which is clearly white washing from the Japaneses bigots) and the Mongols ("black khans"), in America, rewriting Central America, Aztecs, Mayas, and particularly, the Olmecs, since they had wide noses in their statues, something that maya-quiché completely lack nowdays, no matter the look of Rigoberta Menchú[2].

Oddly, some black supremacist groups have formed friendly relations with white supremacist groups. Part of it may be that both ideologies tend to promote anti-Semitism and homophobia. The other part is that both are extreme nationalists, and have the (ostensible) end goal of a series of seperate states for each "race". Thus if White Nationalists want to move all the white people to, say, Montana and kick out all the black people, and Black Nationalists want to move all the black people to, say, not-Montana and kick out the white people, they both have the same goal. Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam invited the neo-Nazi Tom Metzger to NOI meetings. Metzger remarked:

“”They speak out against the Jews and the oppressors in Washington. . . . They are the black counterpart to us.[3]
Support for racial separatism also tends to unite both ideologies.
The black supremacist sect that probably most promotes anti-Semitism ironically identifies as "Black Hebrew Israelites."[4] This ideology has its roots in post-bellum Pentecostalism, which transmuted into "Black Judaism." According to Black Judaism and Black Hebrew Israelism, the newly freed slaves of America's South were the true Hebrews and descendants of the tribes of Israel (an assertion that mirrors the Christian Identity theology held by some white supremacists, which claims Aryans as the true Hebrew race). F.S. Cherry, a late 19th century proponent of Black Judaism's more hateful elements, also preached about a race war with apocalyptic overtones that would supposedly occur in the year 2000 and refashion society into one where blacks were the superior race. The belief that blacks are the "true" Hebrews also leads many in the Black Hebrew Israelite movement to espouse anti-Semitic pseudohistory such as the Khazar myth and Holocaust denial.[5]