Islamists, Liberals Square Off In Egypt's Tahrir

Egyptian eyewitnesses have reported roof-top snipers targeting wounded civilians seeking medical treatment after Egypt's army cleared the camps of Muslim Brotherhood supporters in violence that is ongoing.

Who paid for the snipers' bullets?

"Similarly, Human Rights First argues that the U.S. should make its aid conditional on a transition to an elected government in Egypt, citing failed diplomatic efforts to move the country away from the interim government of the military.

"At Businessweek, Romesh Ratnesar said that the U.S.'s refusal to cut off aid means that the U.S. is effectively propping up a regime 'that openly disdains basic democratic principles and human rights.'

"Ali Gharib at The Daily Beast wrote that 'America funds an army that today carried out a massacre of its own citizens.'

The U.S. Still Isn't Ready To Cut Its Aid to Egypt - Abby Ohlheiser - The Atlantic Wire

force is the only way to suppress the Muslim Brotherhood...the Brotherhood never compromises....they do not believe in any form of democracy but only in backward Islamic Sharia theocratic rule......suppression of the Brotherhood is what worked in Egypt's past and which brought peace and prosperity...

the army isn't going to listen to Obama because he's donating 1.5 billion......other countries in the ME have already pledged way more help....like 12 billion....evidently the Brotherhood is not all that popular in many Arab states...Obama is only continuing the support probably because it's a drop in the bucket and he figures it's safer to play both sides.....considering the Egyptian people are not exactly going to lay down for his precious Hoodies....

U.S. aid to Egypt was formally put under review Thursday in the wake of last week’s military-backed power shift as Arab nations rushed to pledge $12 billion to the country's new government.

US reviews Egypt aid as Arab nations pour $12 billion into post-Morsi regime - World News

The collapsing global economy where the poor are given a choice between subjugation, starvation, or a sniper's bullet on the way to the emergency room is being previewed in Egypt today. The appointed Egyptian president, Adli Mansour, serves as a fig leaf for a military-led government presided over by a dictator named Gen. Abdul-Fattah el-Sisi whose curfew and state of emergency will not soon be lifted.

Chris Hedges:

"The lifeblood of radical movements is martyrdom. The Egyptian military has provided an ample supply. The faces and the names of the sanctified dead will be used by enraged clerics to call for holy vengeance.

"And as violence grows and the lists of martyrs expand, a war will be ignited that will tear Egypt apart. Police, Coptic Christians, secularists, Westerners, businesses, banks, the tourism industry and the military will become targets.

"Those radical Islamists who were persuaded by the Muslim Brotherhood that electoral politics could work and brought into the system will go back underground, and many of the rank and file of the Muslim Brotherhood will join them. Crude bombs will be set off.

"Random attacks and assassinations by gunmen will puncture daily life in Egypt as they did in the 1990s when I was in Cairo for The New York Times, although this time the attacks will be wider and more fierce, far harder to control or ultimately crush."

Chris Hedges: Murdering the Wretched of the Earth - Chris Hedges' Columns - Truthdig

Rich generals are the cause of Egypt's problems, just as they are in those Arab states who are pledging $12 billion to win the class war on the Nile.
 
I did laugh out loud at the idea that there are 2 voting blocs in Egypt - and one of them is "liberals".

Hilarious stuff!

And what is even more funny is that the liberals on this forum support the Islamist voting block.

I assume what you mean is that some very right wing posters might accuse liberals of supporting Islamists - and yes, I agree that is very funny. :lol:
 
I have to agree with you. The media certainly are a funny bunch:

Egyptian ‘Liberals’ Are Out for Blood
Out for Blood, Egypt's 'Liberals' Lose Moral High Ground | TIME.com

Egyptian Liberals Embrace the Military, Brooking No Dissent
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/world/middleeast/egypt-morsi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Egyptian liberals call for crackdown against pro-Morsi sit-ins
Egyptian liberals call for crackdown against pro-Morsi sit-ins - The Washington Post

The examples are seemingly endless. Every major media outlet refers to Egyptian liberals - go figure.

The minute the Egyptians could vote, they voted in a theocracy. There is a large contingent of Egyptians, call them liberals, call them moderate, all them whatever you want. They want the radical MB out of office because of the many human rights abuses perpetrated by the MB.
 
Big Brother backed the wrong horse once again. And he's still backing the wrong horse. Sometimes there is no right horse to back. We're seeing that in Syria and Libya as well. Time to end funding.
 
Big Brother backed the wrong horse once again. And he's still backing the wrong horse. Sometimes there is no right horse to back. We're seeing that in Syria and Libya as well. Time to end funding.
What if everyone contributing to this thread today had read the following on the front page of her newspaper around Thanksgiving of 2001?

"As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more.

"This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan."

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Big Brother backed the wrong horse once again. And he's still backing the wrong horse. Sometimes there is no right horse to back. We're seeing that in Syria and Libya as well. Time to end funding.
What if everyone contributing to this thread today had read the following on the front page of her newspaper around Thanksgiving of 2001?

"As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more.

"This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan."

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a sad vicious circle. More Intervention means a permanent state of War. And that's exactly what the very powerful NWO Global Elites want. There's big profit in War for some. We're always backing the wrong horse. But that doesn't matter to the power elite. It's other peoples' blood & treasure being spent on their follies. More Americans need to stand up and demand more say in Foreign Aid decisions. Right now, the People are excluded from the decision-making process. It's time to get involved and put an end to this permanent state of War.
 
We're always backing the wrong horse.

Then stop backing horses owned by Halliburton.

The US needs to act in the interests of the US people - not those of Dick Cheney.

Dick Cheney is just one NWO Global Elite asshole. There are many others. Dick Cheney is no longer in power, yet we're still in this permanent state of War. The whole decision-making process on Foreign Aid needs to be questioned and challenged. Sometimes there is no right horse to back.
 
Big Brother backed the wrong horse once again. And he's still backing the wrong horse. Sometimes there is no right horse to back. We're seeing that in Syria and Libya as well. Time to end funding.
What if everyone contributing to this thread today had read the following on the front page of her newspaper around Thanksgiving of 2001?

"As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more.

"This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan."

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a sad vicious circle. More Intervention means a permanent state of War. And that's exactly what the very powerful NWO Global Elites want. There's big profit in War for some. We're always backing the wrong horse. But that doesn't matter to the power elite. It's other peoples' blood & treasure being spent on their follies. More Americans need to stand up and demand more say in Foreign Aid decisions. Right now, the People are excluded from the decision-making process. It's time to get involved and put an end to this permanent state of War.

Libertarians never miss an opportunity to exercise their right to be selfish
 
What if everyone contributing to this thread today had read the following on the front page of her newspaper around Thanksgiving of 2001?

"As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more.

"This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan."

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a sad vicious circle. More Intervention means a permanent state of War. And that's exactly what the very powerful NWO Global Elites want. There's big profit in War for some. We're always backing the wrong horse. But that doesn't matter to the power elite. It's other peoples' blood & treasure being spent on their follies. More Americans need to stand up and demand more say in Foreign Aid decisions. Right now, the People are excluded from the decision-making process. It's time to get involved and put an end to this permanent state of War.

Libertarians never miss an opportunity to exercise their right to be selfish

To Hell with this permanent state of War. It's time for change.
 
Big Brother backed the wrong horse once again. And he's still backing the wrong horse. Sometimes there is no right horse to back. We're seeing that in Syria and Libya as well. Time to end funding.
What if everyone contributing to this thread today had read the following on the front page of her newspaper around Thanksgiving of 2001?

"As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more.

"This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan."

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a sad vicious circle. More Intervention means a permanent state of War. And that's exactly what the very powerful NWO Global Elites want. There's big profit in War for some. We're always backing the wrong horse. But that doesn't matter to the power elite. It's other peoples' blood & treasure being spent on their follies. More Americans need to stand up and demand more say in Foreign Aid decisions. Right now, the People are excluded from the decision-making process. It's time to get involved and put an end to this permanent state of War.
IMHO, that will require fundamental reform of the US Congress since virtually every incumbent depends on 1% of voters to fund their election campaigns and retirements. Huey Long saw it clearly three generations ago: DC functions like a restaurant with Republican waiters along one wall and Democrats lining the other; however, it makes no difference to 99% of voters which party delivers their order since "all the grub comes from Wall Street's kitchen."

We need a wall of separation between private wealth and public policy in this country that neither elected Republicans or Democrats have the slightest intention of providing; they will choose to vanish from US History first and the sooner the better.
 

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