Islamist parties made dramatic advances in Egypt's parliamentary elections !~

and when we force them to confront how dreadful Islam is, they will...over time...leave the religion.

Dream world.

There’s been a large exodus from Christianity and Christianity is a lot more reasonable that Islam. It's the violence and intimidation that is prison bars of Islam, but if enough people stand up to it, the fear evaporates.
 
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There’s been a large exodus from Christianity and Christianity is a lot more reasonable that Islam. It the violence and intimidation that is prison bars of Islam, but if enough people stand up to it, the fear evaporates.

You interpret and term Islam the way you like. Who says, that other people see it the way you do?
 
There’s been a large exodus from Christianity and Christianity is a lot more reasonable that Islam. It the violence and intimidation that is prison bars of Islam, but if enough people stand up to it, the fear evaporates.

You interpret and term Islam the way you like. Who says, that other people see it the way you do?

Mohammed taught his followers how to wipe their butt; he promised forgiveness of sin for killing lizards; he warned against farting during prayer; he forced his daughter-in-law to leave her husband to marry him, and he also married a six year old girl.

Mohammed plagiarized the Bible, but had nothing original to say, and you want to tell me that God selected him to be a messenger? What was the message? Seriously, why would God send someone to tell us what we already knew? Islam is based on Mohammed being selected or sent by God as a messenger, but for this to be true, Mohammed MUST HAVE A MESSAGE, a REAL message, not merely his claim to being a messenger.
 
Mohammed taught his followers how to wipe their butt; he promised forgiveness of sin for killing lizards; he warned against farting during prayer; he forced his daughter-in-law to leave her husband to marry him, and he also married a six year old girl.

Mohammed plagiarized the Bible, but had nothing original to say, and you want to tell me that God selected him to be a messenger? What was the message? Seriously, why would God send someone to tell us what we already knew? Islam is based on Mohammed being selected or sent by God as a messenger, but for this to be true, Mohammed MUST HAVE A MESSAGE, a REAL message, not merely his claim to being a messenger.

Nothing more than your own personal views.
So you think "teaching" those "Muslims" the right view on Islam, as displayed above, will lead them to leave Islam?
 
Mohammed taught his followers how to wipe their butt; he promised forgiveness of sin for killing lizards; he warned against farting during prayer; he forced his daughter-in-law to leave her husband to marry him, and he also married a six year old girl.

These are not personal views, but come from Islamic texts.

And what was Mohammed's message from God?
 
And what was Mohammed's message from God?

Independent from the message, the Muslims aren't running into your door for you to "teach" them that message.
You are very naive, and an educated Imam would destroy you in a TV-show meant to "teach Muslims" about Islam.
 
And what was Mohammed's message from God?

Independent from the message, the Muslims aren't running into your door for you to "teach" them that message.
You are very naive, and an educated Imam would destroy you in a TV-show meant to "teach Muslims" about Islam.

You offer no messages…no understanding…no spirituality or enlightenment…only the promise of destruction from an Imam. It's not about winning or about control. Religion and spirituality should be about trying to understand who we are and why we are here. We should be able to speak freely about it. What was the message of Mohammed?
 
You offer no messages…no understanding…no spirituality or enlightenment…only the promise of destruction from an Imam. It's not about winning or about control. Religion and spirituality should be about trying to understand who we are and why we are here. We should be able to speak freely about it. What was the message of Mohammed?

I didn't come into this thread to offer any interpretation about what the message of Mohammed was.
I came to this thread to show you how silly you and your conviction to be able to "teach" Muslims about right view on Islam with messages like "Mohammed taught his followers how to wipe their butt" are.
 
You offer no messages…no understanding…no spirituality or enlightenment…only the promise of destruction from an Imam. It's not about winning or about control. Religion and spirituality should be about trying to understand who we are and why we are here. We should be able to speak freely about it. What was the message of Mohammed?

I didn't come into this thread to offer any interpretation about what the message of Mohammed was.
I came to this thread to show you how silly you and your conviction to be able to "teach" Muslims about right view on Islam with messages like "Mohammed taught his followers how to wipe their butt" are.

Doesn't the Qu'ran define the method in which true believers are supposed to clean themselves after defecation ekrem?
 
According to Mohammed a person should wipe their butt with an odd number of stones after defecating (Bukhari 4:162)

Allah's Apostle said, "If anyone of you performs ablution he should put water in his nose and then blow it out and whoever cleans his private parts with stones should do so with odd numbers. And whoever wakes up from his sleep should wash his hands before putting them in the water for ablution, because nobody knows where his hands were during sleep."
In another place Mohommed warned against using bones.
 
According to Mohammed a person should wipe their butt with an odd number of stones after defecating (Bukhari 4:162)

Allah's Apostle said, "If anyone of you performs ablution he should put water in his nose and then blow it out and whoever cleans his private parts with stones should do so with odd numbers. And whoever wakes up from his sleep should wash his hands before putting them in the water for ablution, because nobody knows where his hands were during sleep."
In another place Mohommed warned against using bones.

So your strategy to make Muslims leave Islam is by telling them, that Mohammed said they should clean their butts?
 
Then so be it. They can and will govern themselves. We cannot nor should we try and do it for them. Empire building is never a good thing.

They will eventually govern you. Denial is more than just a river in Egypt. I've seen them both.

Are you telling me... Americans that have been trying for decades or more to get a third party into our two party system and couldn't will be shown how to get a third party by Islamists? Do they know our system better than we do?
 
Senator John Kerry Meets With Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo

Sen. John Kerry has met in Cairo with members of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist group that's set to dominate the new parliament.

In a statement, the Muslim Brotherhood says three of its top officials attended the meeting with the Massachusetts Democrat, who was accompanied by U.S. Ambassador Anne Patterson.

Brotherhood officials vowed to respect civil rights and international treaties that have been signed in the past. That assurance could be an attempt to calm fears that the group may try to re-examine Egypt's peace treaty with Israel.

The group says Kerry told the Brotherhood's members that he's not surprised by their success in parliamentary elections.

The elections were the first since President Hosni Mubarak was ousted.

Kerry, who is also chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was among the first U.S. politicians to call on Mubarak to step down earlier this year.

What happened to all the posters who claimed the Muslim Brotherhood had next to no chance of gaining anything in the new Egyptian government?
 
Then so be it. They can and will govern themselves. We cannot nor should we try and do it for them. Empire building is never a good thing.

They will eventually govern you. Denial is more than just a river in Egypt. I've seen them both.

Are you telling me... Americans that have been trying for decades or more to get a third party into our two party system and couldn't will be shown how to get a third party by Islamists? Do they know our system better than we do?

A third party isn't needed. All that is needed is the numbers to get themselves entrenched in the two we already have, and enough to vote them in. Granted, it will take some time, but they will gain power in this country.
 
Senator John Kerry Meets With Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo

Sen. John Kerry has met in Cairo with members of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist group that's set to dominate the new parliament.

In a statement, the Muslim Brotherhood says three of its top officials attended the meeting with the Massachusetts Democrat, who was accompanied by U.S. Ambassador Anne Patterson.

Brotherhood officials vowed to respect civil rights and international treaties that have been signed in the past. That assurance could be an attempt to calm fears that the group may try to re-examine Egypt's peace treaty with Israel.

The group says Kerry told the Brotherhood's members that he's not surprised by their success in parliamentary elections.

The elections were the first since President Hosni Mubarak was ousted.

Kerry, who is also chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was among the first U.S. politicians to call on Mubarak to step down earlier this year.

What happened to all the posters who claimed the Muslim Brotherhood had next to no chance of gaining anything in the new Egyptian government?

I knew when Americans were cheering them on that they didn't want a democracy like ours. They were and are rebelling against the US, all of those countries, and when they all get th MB in they will take us on. You wait. I wasn't born yesterday.
 
They will eventually govern you. Denial is more than just a river in Egypt. I've seen them both.

Are you telling me... Americans that have been trying for decades or more to get a third party into our two party system and couldn't will be shown how to get a third party by Islamists? Do they know our system better than we do?

A third party isn't needed. All that is needed is the numbers to get themselves entrenched in the two we already have, and enough to vote them in. Granted, it will take some time, but they will gain power in this country.

As evidenced by....
 
According to Mohammed a person should wipe their butt with an odd number of stones after defecating (Bukhari 4:162)

Allah's Apostle said, "If anyone of you performs ablution he should put water in his nose and then blow it out and whoever cleans his private parts with stones should do so with odd numbers. And whoever wakes up from his sleep should wash his hands before putting them in the water for ablution, because nobody knows where his hands were during sleep."
In another place Mohommed warned against using bones.
You do realize that TP hadn't been invented back in the 6th century? :cool:
 
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According to Mohammed a person should wipe their butt with an odd number of stones after defecating (Bukhari 4:162)

Allah's Apostle said, "If anyone of you performs ablution he should put water in his nose and then blow it out and whoever cleans his private parts with stones should do so with odd numbers. And whoever wakes up from his sleep should wash his hands before putting them in the water for ablution, because nobody knows where his hands were during sleep."
In another place Mohommed warned against using bones.
So what is the problem with washing your hands?

You do realize that TP hadn't been invented back in the 6th century? :cool:

Well, TP HAS been invented and they still don't use it in Egypt.
 
According to Mohammed a person should wipe their butt with an odd number of stones after defecating (Bukhari 4:162)


In another place Mohommed warned against using bones.
So what is the problem with washing your hands?

You do realize that TP hadn't been invented back in the 6th century? :cool:

Well, TP HAS been invented and they still don't use it in Egypt.
And you know this first hand? :doubt:
 

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