Islam is such a loving and peaceful religion....

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    Muslims torture Christian to death
    Seminary students tried to force him to convert to Islam

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    Muslim seminary students in Pakistan tortured a young Christian for five days and nights to force him to convert to Islam, according to a British human-rights monitor.

    The students in Toba Tek Singh, Punjab Province, accused 19-year-old Javaid Anjum of stealing their water pump when they found him drinking from an outside tap April 17, reported the Barnbas Fund.

    Anjum replied he merely was searching for a drink and said, as a Christian, they could be assured he would not steal anything.

    Upon learning of his faith, the students accosted Anjum and took him to a seminary run by Maulvi Ghulam Rasool, who along with others, tortured the Christian for five days.

    Anjum's tormentors ordered him to deny his Christian faith and embrace Islam. Finally they took him to a local police station April 22 and accused him of theft.

    Police recognized Anjum was dying and informed his family, allowing them to take him to a hospital.

    Anjum made a statement on video during his hospital treatment, which included dialysis on several occasions because both kidneys failed, Barnabas Fund said.

    He did not recover, however, and died in the hospital shortly after 2 a.m. on May 2.

    Barnabas Fund said Anjum was a university student studying commerce.

    He was returning to his grandfather's house after a visit to an aunt when he was abducted.

    The injuries, the British group said, were "horrific," caused by electric shocks repeatedly to various parts of his body, including his ears, which damaged his hearing.

    His right arm and fingers were fractured, and his nails were pulled out.

    Anjum's feet were swollen from beating, and he suffered contusions and lacerations all over his body.

    He also had many internal injuries along with the two failed kidneys, according to the doctor's report, which noted he passed blood or pus instead of urine.

    In many places his skin appeared blackened and oozed pus, and he could barely move.

    The head constable at the police station where Anjum was taken, however, said in a statement it was God's will that he had to die that way.

    The constable added the Muslims caught and punished Anjum without intending to kill him.

    The seminary head, Rasool, has been arrested, Barnabas Fund said.
     
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    Interesting. I wonder how many Christian organizations are out there torturing people to force them to believe in Christ. (Hint: the answer is ZERO.)
     
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    If you, unlike newguy, believe that Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity then you need only look to the inquisition to see that Christianity has tortured in an attempt to convert them.

    If you support newguy's position then you need only look to the thirty years war to see both Protestant and Catholics willing to kill each other over the number of the sacraments.

    If you look only a few centuries earlier then you will see that the most peaceful, religiously tolerant places in the world were controlled by the Muslims.

    So yes Islam has fallen from grace, it is using violence and torture to further its goals... but so has almost every major religion at one time or another.
     
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    So, Islam is non-peaceful religion based on one incident?

    By this theory, Christians must be rapists then, based on the Catholic church's priest scandal.
     
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    I posted an article.

    Did you read it?

    I think you must not have.

    Do I have to post all the incidents happening in the world today whereby Islamists are attacking Christians and Buddhists in the world? Or can do your own research.

    In the article the Police, of all people, say the man deserved what he got.

    I proffer that this incident just shows the extent of the hate of the Islamic world towards those that are not Muslim. I mean, the guy was just getting a drink of water.

    You must have major issues since you take exception to anything anybody says without, apparently, even reading the details.
     
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    Oh, you're right. I guess since Christians were bad, it is okay for Muslims to act the way they do today.

    That makes sense. Please forgive me for thinking that man has evolved.

    So, in 100 years if Christians go on a rampage killing non Christians the world over, are you going to say, it is okay?

    Your assertation that because something was done once by one group that it can be done by another makes no sense.
     
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    Well, I disagree with the position that Catholicism is not a Christian denomination. While I think some of their doctrines are extra-biblical, I have known many Catholics who try to follow Christ to the best of their ability.

    As far as the Inquisition, yes, it happened. It was Catholics trying to force Protestants back into Catholicism. It was wrong. However, the wars between the two are long since overwith, and were just as much political as they were religious. To equate that to the persecution of Christianity in Iraq, or in Sudan, or other Islamic countries is apples and oranges.
     
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    The 'NEW and IMPROVED' Islamicists are to the world today what the CONQUISTADORS were to Christianity in the Age of Exploration.

    They do not represent the majority opinion, yet that won't matter, they may kill millions. I for one have no desire to be the Incas or Aztecs of modern times.
     
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    You're going to go back about five hundred and fifty years to cite your example? That's really getting desperate, not to metion dated.
     
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    christianity did this,islam did that.if we truly wish to learn if any faith lends itself to violence is simple-read the text!read the new testament,what kinda life did jesus live,what did he preach.now look at the koran and hadiths,what kinda life did mohammad live and what did he preach.pretty simple huh.
     

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