ISIS still on a rampage as Trump kills civilians, thanks again Bremer

[JohnnyApplesack]

After nearly a year of air strikes led by the U.S. and ground attacks by the U.S.-trained Iraqi army, the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) is proving to be a far more cagey and cunning foe than the Pentagon ever expected. A big reason for its success is the George W. Bush Administration’s decision to disband the Iraqi army shortly after the 2003 invasion—without the knowledge or consent of either the Pentagon or President.It’s a jarring reminder of how a key decision made long ago is complicating U.S. efforts to fight ISIS and restore some semblance of stability to Iraq. Instead of giving Iraq a fresh start with a new army, it helped create a vacuum that ISIS has filled. Anthony Zinni, a retired Marine general and chief of U.S. Central Command from 1997 to 2000, said keeping the Iraqi army intact was always part of U.S. strategy. “The plan was that the army would be the foundation of rebuilding the Iraqi military,” he says. “Many of the Sunnis who were chased out ended up on the other side and are probably ISIS fighters and leaders now.” One expert estimates that more than 25 of ISIS’s top 40 leaders once served in the Iraqi military.

How Disbanding the Iraqi Army Fueled ISIS

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Was ISIS rampaging when Obummer killed civilians...and were you whining about it also?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Isis is dressed just like civilians. So, news of the killing of civilians is a big yawn.

 

[washamericom]

it's preposterous.

 

[washamericom]

Isis is dressed just like civilians. So, news of the killing of civilians is a big yawn.

it's how we won the revolutionary war.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

This report can't be true.

After all, the cheeto said he would destroy ISIL in the first 30 days.

 

[pwjohn]

Isis is dressed just like civilians. So, news of the killing of civilians is a big yawn.

Comments like yours makes you no better than a third world Arab Muslim terrorist.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

 

[pwjohn]

After nearly a year of air strikes led by the U.S. and ground attacks by the U.S.-trained Iraqi army, the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) is proving to be a far more cagey and cunning foe than the Pentagon ever expected. A big reason for its success is the George W. Bush Administration’s decision to disband the Iraqi army shortly after the 2003 invasion—without the knowledge or consent of either the Pentagon or President.It’s a jarring reminder of how a key decision made long ago is complicating U.S. efforts to fight ISIS and restore some semblance of stability to Iraq. Instead of giving Iraq a fresh start with a new army, it helped create a vacuum that ISIS has filled. Anthony Zinni, a retired Marine general and chief of U.S. Central Command from 1997 to 2000, said keeping the Iraqi army intact was always part of U.S. strategy. “The plan was that the army would be the foundation of rebuilding the Iraqi military,” he says. “Many of the Sunnis who were chased out ended up on the other side and are probably ISIS fighters and leaders now.” One expert estimates that more than 25 of ISIS’s top 40 leaders once served in the Iraqi military.

How Disbanding the Iraqi Army Fueled ISIS

No need to read about something so obvious. Saddams followers became Isis. And there's only one person to blame for that. Bush 43

 

[pwjohn]

I'm surprised trump didn't blame Obama for the deaths of this particular batch of civilians.

 

[Claudette]

Isis is dressed just like civilians. So, news of the killing of civilians is a big yawn.

Yup and they hide behind women and kids.

As far as I'm concerned our forces can mow them all down and let Allah sort em out.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Isis is dressed just like civilians. So, news of the killing of civilians is a big yawn.

Yup and they hide behind women and kids.

As far as I'm concerned our forces can mow them all down and let Allah sort em out.

Pooting and trump both agree with RWNJs -- kill kids but run away from the adults.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

It's called War. Civilians killed in war are called 'Collateral Damage'. It's all part of it!

 

[whitehall]

Bush disarmed Iraq's army because they were killing Americans. Granted the historical perspective of the left extends only as far as the last republican administration but Bush did the right thing and Obama abandoned the fight and the country. You almost gotta laugh that the left conveniently forgets that Harry Truman's ineptness back in 1951 is the reason NK is a power player today and Truman got a freaking tickertape parade courtesy of the liberal media.

 

[Rambunctious]

Pooting and trump both agree with RWNJs -- kill kids but run away from the adults

 

[Dschrute3]

The saddest thing about this is that top ranking Commanders in Iraq have already vowed that even if ISIS is defeated, we're not leaving Iraq. It's such a hopeless bleak situation. How long is this War supposed to drag on? I mean, 14yrs? Isn't that enough for Americans? Apparently not.

I guess Permanent War is all Americans know now. It really is so '1984.' I urge all Americans to read that book. Orwell was so brilliant. With the rampant surveillance and endless war, we are beginning to live '1984.'

 

[BlindBoo]

Bush disarmed Iraq's army because they were killing Americans.

Baloney. Most of them were housed in their barracks until they were fired and abandoned, left alone to fend for their families

Bush did the right thing and Obama abandoned the fight and the country.

The Civil war between the Sunnis and Shiite need never have happen. Not the right thing. Bush had an entire year, before he was kicked out, to get a SOFA with a residual force included but he failed and had to sign the one with a timetable for our withdrawal. Of course under that agreement President Obama could have left at any time too, but he understood the situation and tried also to get a residual force agreement with Iraq. I don't think the powers that be cared much about the Sunnis insurrection in Western Iraq, after all it was their home. It was when they threatened Erbil that the West had to step in....

 

[Lastamender]

After nearly a year of air strikes led by the U.S. and ground attacks by the U.S.-trained Iraqi army, the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) is proving to be a far more cagey and cunning foe than the Pentagon ever expected. A big reason for its success is the George W. Bush Administration’s decision to disband the Iraqi army shortly after the 2003 invasion—without the knowledge or consent of either the Pentagon or President.It’s a jarring reminder of how a key decision made long ago is complicating U.S. efforts to fight ISIS and restore some semblance of stability to Iraq. Instead of giving Iraq a fresh start with a new army, it helped create a vacuum that ISIS has filled. Anthony Zinni, a retired Marine general and chief of U.S. Central Command from 1997 to 2000, said keeping the Iraqi army intact was always part of U.S. strategy. “The plan was that the army would be the foundation of rebuilding the Iraqi military,” he says. “Many of the Sunnis who were chased out ended up on the other side and are probably ISIS fighters and leaders now.” One expert estimates that more than 25 of ISIS’s top 40 leaders once served in the Iraqi military.

How Disbanding the Iraqi Army Fueled ISIS

Do you want to destroy ISIS?

 

[Dschrute3]

Bush disarmed Iraq's army because they were killing Americans.

Baloney. Most of them were housed in their barracks until they were fired and abandoned, left alone to fend for their families

Bush did the right thing and Obama abandoned the fight and the country.

The Civil war between the Sunnis and Shiite need never have happen. Not the right thing. Bush had an entire year, before he was kicked out, to get a SOFA with a residual force included but he failed and had to sign the one with a timetable for our withdrawal. Of course under that agreement President Obama could have left at any time too, but he understood the situation and tried also to get a residual force agreement with Iraq. I don't think the powers that be cared much about the Sunnis insurrection in Western Iraq, after all it was their home. It was when they threatened Erbil that the West had to step in....

Good points. The Sunnis will never surrender. There will always be bloody chaos in Iraq. All we did was turn the country over to the Shiites who are aligned with Shiite Iran. A truly miserable blunder for sure.

So it is time for us to close the book on the Iraq War blunder. 14yrs is long enough. It's time for us come home. Period, end of story.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Isis will not be destroyed unless we are prepared for some massive amounts of dead bodies around the world.