Is Trump's lack of response in Puerto Rico really just "political payback"?

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    Why isn’t Trump rushing to help Puerto Rico’s U.S. citizens? Political payback

    Yes, Maria is Trump’s Katrina.

    He’s shown the same level of ineffectiveness as George W. Bush in responding to the devastation of black and poor New Orleans.

    Nine months into his presidency, President Trump doesn’t get it: He now represents everyone — and that includes Puerto Ricans, on the mainland and on the island.

    Perhaps, in the aftermath of Irma and Maria, Puerto Ricans will become climate-change refugees. They’d do well to move to Florida — and exercise their right to vote in a swing state.

    Perhaps that’s the only way for Puerto Rico to obtain all that it deserves, instead of the second-class citizen status that comes with being an American colony under Trump.

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    His golf course went belly up in Puerto Rico.

    72% voted for Hillary Clinton.

    We already know how thin skinned he is.

    He said Puerto Ricans are lazy and not pulling their own weight.

    FEMA Administrator Disagrees With Trump: ‘I Believe the Puerto Ricans Are Pulling Their Weight’

    Lt. General Russel Honore outlined a plan to help Puerto Rico and even Republicans right here on the USMB laughed at it. And he was the guy who saved New Orleans after the Katrina debacle.

    I wonder how many more Puerto Rican's will die before this is over?
     
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    Things are very slowly, incrementally, finally getting better and I hope no one else will die. Maria was not Trump's fault. Everyone over there, from FEMA to the General are saying it is the worst situation they've ever had to deal with. How to you drive anything over washed out roads and bridges that are no longer there? How do you find out who needs help when there are no phones or radios working to the outlying areas? Maybe they could have done better getting fuel into the island to keep the hospitals running, get more of the gas stations up, banks, etc. But that's for a later time to analyze. Trump sent the regular amount of aid one would send to a disaster area and it wasn't enough. He couldn't know that when this started. The Trump haters are circling and taking bites out of his hide, per usual. His tweets sucked. I'll give you that. But the rest? He didn't ignore them.
     
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    Actually Puerto Ricans are not allowed to vote in the general, only primaries. The citizens of Puerto Rico do not have any voting representation in the US govt., they are not represented in the electoral college and are unable to vote in US presidential elections. Even though the population is greater than 21 of the 50 states and and Puerto Ricans are over represented in the US military. But such is life in the colonies of the empire. Those born in Ameican Samoa are not even citizens at all.
     
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    Deanie boy lives in an alternate mental reality. .... :cuckoo: .. :lol:
     
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    Last time I heard about it, the Puerto Rican people voted DOWN becoming a state. It's been awhile, that may have changed.
     
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    Trump's response in Puerto Rico has been phenomenal. Lying about it political.
     
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    Good point. Everyone better vote for Republicans from now on or else you'll find a horse head in your bed.
     
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    SAN JUAN MAYOR: Puerto Rican Statehood Like ‘A Slave Becoming a Slave Owner.’
     
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    Puerto Rico could have become a state if its citizens had wanted it.
    They voted against statehood every time.

    One can take the horse to the the trough but can't make it drink.
     
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    And have they also voted for the economic exploitation?

    The United States acquired the islands of Puerto Rico in 1898 after the Spanish–American War. In 1950, Congress enacted legislation (P.L. 81-600) authorizing Puerto Rico to hold a constitutional convention and in 1952, the people of Puerto Rico ratified a constitution establishing a republican form of government for the island. After being approved by Congress and the President in July 1952 and thus given force under federal law (P.L. 82-447), the new constitution went into effect on July 25, 1952.

    Puerto Rico has been under U.S. sovereignty for over a century and
    Puerto Ricans have been U.S. citizens since 1917.[11][12][13] Since the promulgation of the current Commonwealth constitution in 1952, further local attempts to change the island's political status took place in 1967, 1993, and 1998. An additional referendum held in 1991 sought to amend the relationship through an amendment to the Puerto Rican constitution. Each time, the results favored retaining the current status over the possible independence of Puerto Rico and statehood alternatives.

    As a result of Puerto Rico's status as a
    U.S. territory, the citizens of Puerto Rico do not have any voting representation in the U.S. Federal government. Instead of outright representation through Senators and House Representatives, Puerto Rico has one non-voting Resident Commissioner in the House of Representatives. Furthermore, Puerto Rico is not represented in the Electoral College, and thus U.S. citizens resident there are unable to vote in U.S. presidential elections. Citizens of Puerto Rico can vote in the Republican and Democratic primary elections.

    Although Puerto Rico presently has a certain amount of local autonomy, according to the
    U.S. Constitution ultimate governance of the island is retained by both the U.S. Congress and President.[14][15][16] Thus, results of plebiscites, whether or not authorized by Congress, while they reflect public sentiment, and thus bear some impact, can be ignored by Congress. Ultimately, the results of Puerto Rican plebiscites are opinions, although congressional resolutions have expressed support for following the will of the Puerto Rican people.
    Political status of Puerto Rico - Wikipedia

    Is that how a US "territory" becomes a state? They just vote amongst themselves and they're in? I'm a bit surprised you play this off, but ok.
     

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