CDZ Is Trump more like Grant, Sherman or Churchill?

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Is President Trump more like.....

  1. General Grant

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  2. General Sherman

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  3. Winston Churchill

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    As it was he got those hostages back --- again, without firing a shot. Is that not preferable?

    I made no mention of "black ops". I said POTUS. That means as official US policy.

    Now if we want to get into who the President of the Shadow Government is, that's a whole 'nother thread. And not an uninteresting one.
     
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    Teddy Roosevelt.
     
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    Actually he brought them all home. Literally went to meet the plane when it first touched down in Germany.

    Wars? If you don't start 'em ---- you don't need to win 'em. War is the ultimate human failure. It always has two losers.

    As far as oil, that's an international fungible commodity. Unless you want to nationalize oil companies and build your system sui generis, a POTUS can't control that. Nixon had the same problem.
     
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    Black ops IS official US policy, we just don't know about it.

    Well the Iranians got to humiliate us and have spent the next 4 decades thumbing their noses at us, so maybe some shots fired back then would have prevented all this.
     
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    By definition if we don't know about it ---- it can't be "official".

    Maybe not sending those same black ops in there in 1953 would have prevented all this. Ya think?
     
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    That's pretty funny. Tell that to the survivors of Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Norway, Belgium, The Netherlands, France, and Pearl Harbor.
     
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    I did deal with them. I explained how your characterization of them was completely false.


    YOu ignored that, because you know it is true, and simply repeated your original assertion.


    That is the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion used as political propaganda.


    Your point is invalid. You lose.


    My points stand.


    Trump was right, plenty of good people support keeping those historical statues.


    Your claim that he said something he did not say, was incorrect, and now that you have been corrected and you still holding to it,

    you are being actively and purposefully dishonest.

    YOu lose again.
     
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    What he said was that some good people support keeping the statues.


    Why did you lie about what he said?


    Are you that sure that you can't make a point without lying?
     
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    once again you are simply a liar
     
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    Nnnnnnnnnnnnope. He doesn't mention statues there --- he says "many fine people on both sides".

    Whelp --- guess who was on one of those sides.
     

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