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Yes, President Trump has a CCW permit allowing him to carry a concealed weapon. I do too. And yes, Trump is a lifelong member of the NRA. And yes, Trump has advocated making CCW permits valid nationwide.
But what do these things have to do with shooting attacks like that in Parkland, FL ? I'd say they strongly help to STOP such attacks, by providing both a deterrent to would-be shooter-attackers, and a cure, by allowing people (teachers, administrators, etc) to stop mass shooters, before they can kill people.
As for gun control, Trump may be getting a bad rap. In his 2015 book, Crippled America (page 110-111), Trump stated >> "The Second Amendment hq beenunder attack for a long time.Throughout the years, state governments have chipped away at it, adding restrictions...Some of these restrictions obviously make sense. For example, felons and mentally ill people should not have access to guns."
Again on page 114, Trump says "We have to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues. The fact that people with mental health problems can obtain guns is not right. We all agree abut that, and we have to stop it, but there are som big hurdles."
Further on in the page, Trump clarifies these "hurdles" >> "Most people with mental health problems aren't violent; they just need help..But there are people who are violent."
Here Turmp has made an important distinction that his critics on gun control may be overlooking. It's not enoug to say that mentally ill people shouldn't get guns. This is not always correct. Most mentally ill people, as Trump said, are not violent. They may be on computers 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. A mental disorder, but not violent. No reason to deny them a gun.
They may have fear of heights, or water, or spiders. All mental disorders, but not harmful and not reason to deny them their 2nd Amendment rights to defend themselves (and others).
One of the students of MSDHS spoke out against Trump very forcefully, citing Trump having vetoed an Obama gun control bill. But does this kid (or his treachers) know the specifics of that bill ? Or why it was nullified ? Maybe the nullification was to protect law-abiding citizens, and their right to bear arms, while not creating any danger to anyone.
Gun control is a tricky issue. It needs a lot of care to spek correcly about it. I say to all these students, teachers, anybody >> Look before you leap.
As for Trump, I'd suggest thoroughly examining any legislation he has worked with, and reading Chapter 11 (only 8 pages) of the book Crippled America.
They may find that Trump is a very careful supporter of gun control (in its proper way) , as is the NRA such as the support they both gave to "Project Exile" in Richmond, VA. The NRA also supported gun control bills proposed by Republican senators Grassley and Cornyn, both which were voted down by Democrats.
Examine Baby! Examine!
But what do these things have to do with shooting attacks like that in Parkland, FL ? I'd say they strongly help to STOP such attacks, by providing both a deterrent to would-be shooter-attackers, and a cure, by allowing people (teachers, administrators, etc) to stop mass shooters, before they can kill people.
As for gun control, Trump may be getting a bad rap. In his 2015 book, Crippled America (page 110-111), Trump stated >> "The Second Amendment hq beenunder attack for a long time.Throughout the years, state governments have chipped away at it, adding restrictions...Some of these restrictions obviously make sense. For example, felons and mentally ill people should not have access to guns."
Again on page 114, Trump says "We have to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues. The fact that people with mental health problems can obtain guns is not right. We all agree abut that, and we have to stop it, but there are som big hurdles."
Further on in the page, Trump clarifies these "hurdles" >> "Most people with mental health problems aren't violent; they just need help..But there are people who are violent."
Here Turmp has made an important distinction that his critics on gun control may be overlooking. It's not enoug to say that mentally ill people shouldn't get guns. This is not always correct. Most mentally ill people, as Trump said, are not violent. They may be on computers 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. A mental disorder, but not violent. No reason to deny them a gun.
They may have fear of heights, or water, or spiders. All mental disorders, but not harmful and not reason to deny them their 2nd Amendment rights to defend themselves (and others).
One of the students of MSDHS spoke out against Trump very forcefully, citing Trump having vetoed an Obama gun control bill. But does this kid (or his treachers) know the specifics of that bill ? Or why it was nullified ? Maybe the nullification was to protect law-abiding citizens, and their right to bear arms, while not creating any danger to anyone.
Gun control is a tricky issue. It needs a lot of care to spek correcly about it. I say to all these students, teachers, anybody >> Look before you leap.
As for Trump, I'd suggest thoroughly examining any legislation he has worked with, and reading Chapter 11 (only 8 pages) of the book Crippled America.
They may find that Trump is a very careful supporter of gun control (in its proper way) , as is the NRA such as the support they both gave to "Project Exile" in Richmond, VA. The NRA also supported gun control bills proposed by Republican senators Grassley and Cornyn, both which were voted down by Democrats.
Examine Baby! Examine!
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