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Uh. Hold on there Pilgrim. I'm somebody.Much ado about nothing, my friend. Will never happen in the U.S. This nation is still dominated by conservatives and we will never submit to being forced into embedded technology.
Pretribbers are dumb as shit comes. They expect a whole lot of things to unfold imminently, things that no one is even trying to start. We're all going to get literal marks on the forehead, which means chips implanted in the arm. And, it's going to happen very soon, even though the general public, including the politicians, would overwhelmingly resist mandatory implanting. I say "would resist" because no one has even floated the idea for anyone to resist.
Why do they believe in a pretrib rapture coming very soon? Because Jesus said his coming (judgement on the Jews in the first century) would be when it's not expected, so expect the rapture before the imminent tribulation.
Pretribbers have s-h-i-t for brains, and the Devil for a father.
Hello pretribbers, you reading this? You're going to Hell.
Well, you are certainly entitled to you opinion. I happen to disagree. Back in the day, I studied all the various end-time theories, and concluded that preterism made the most sense of the evidence.
and you are wrong.
It's not a mere opinion that those pretribbers are damn fools and enemies of Christ. They reject everything the Bible says about Christians going through the tribulation (ahem, and be beaten in the synagogues, before Jesus' generation passes away) in exchange for the pretrib rapture, which they know is pretrib because Jesus said his coming (not rapture) will be when it's not expected, so expected it before the tribulation.
I do agree that post-trib is more biblical than pre-trib.
100 or more years ago it was plausible that the "mark" was figurative.
However, now, in light of the scannable microchip
the claim of "figurative mark" is made only by lie lovers. Same as only a lie lover would claim "the mark of the beast is ancient history"
You understand so little. And I am a lover of truth, not lies. It is ancient history. Read my post here
I read your post and the one following it. Within the person you are responding to, the poster that responded to your other post and my response, there are three people who disagree with your position.
In I Thessalonians 5: 22 there is a Bible command:
"Abstain from all appearance of evil."
We got it. When any semblance of evil crosses your path, you will accept it. Let's review the applicable verses of Revelations 13:
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.
In the final days you literally will not be able to buy or sell without a "Mark of the Beast." If you don't have the "Mark," then you will have to know the number of his name. My grand-father worried that the Socialist Surveillance Number ... ooops, "Social Security Number" was the precursor to the Mark of the Beast despite that the original SSN had the words "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION" printed across the front of each card in all caps.
Today, many places won't accept cash and swiping a card is preferable for cash transactions in most places that do accept cash. And when you go to do business with a lot of people, they want your "Social."
At the end of the day, the entire mindset is about control. Microchip technology is about control. It is about the forfeiture of Liberty. In Galatians 5 : 1 we are admonished:
“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”
When any government or corporate entity can monitor you 24 / 7 / 365 and force you to do what they want, they have you in absolute bondage. The Mark of the Beast is about having people that have accepted something that forces them to do whatever those forces tell them to do. So, while you can play semantics all day long, NOBODY is required by the laws of God to forfeit their Liberty... and what does this new technology mandate a person do in order to buy and sell?
You are leading people down a dark path wherein they end up owing their souls to the powers that be of this world. When there is a one world religion, microchip technology will be used to keep you from rejecting the government's decree of that one world religion. Today, like the SSN was when first introduced, whether you use the technology or not is voluntary. But, if you do, it will ultimately be mandatory and it will be used as a tool of control.
Well, you are certainly entitled to you opinion. I happen to disagree. Back in the day, I studied all the various end-time theories, and concluded that preterism made the most sense of the evidence.
This is, most likely, the more likely path you should look at:
The Two Seeds Of Genesis 3 15 By Charles Lee Mange
Start at page 68 and read forward
Interesting I suppose, but there is no satan
Much ado about nothing, my friend. Will never happen in the U.S. This nation is still dominated by conservatives and we will never submit to being forced into embedded technology.This is interesting. A startup for a global identification system. If this ever became mandatory, it would be simple to then switch to a cashless society. Then no one would be able to buy or sell without this ID. This may be the precursor to the Mark of the Beast.
You understand so little. And I am a lover of truth, not lies. It is ancient history. Read my post here
I read your post and the one following it. Within the person you are responding to, the poster that responded to your other post and my response, there are three people who disagree with your position.
In I Thessalonians 5: 22 there is a Bible command:
"Abstain from all appearance of evil."
We got it. When any semblance of evil crosses your path, you will accept it. Let's review the applicable verses of Revelations 13:
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.
In the final days you literally will not be able to buy or sell without a "Mark of the Beast." If you don't have the "Mark," then you will have to know the number of his name. My grand-father worried that the Socialist Surveillance Number ... ooops, "Social Security Number" was the precursor to the Mark of the Beast despite that the original SSN had the words "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION" printed across the front of each card in all caps.
Today, many places won't accept cash and swiping a card is preferable for cash transactions in most places that do accept cash. And when you go to do business with a lot of people, they want your "Social."
At the end of the day, the entire mindset is about control. Microchip technology is about control. It is about the forfeiture of Liberty. In Galatians 5 : 1 we are admonished:
“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”
When any government or corporate entity can monitor you 24 / 7 / 365 and force you to do what they want, they have you in absolute bondage. The Mark of the Beast is about having people that have accepted something that forces them to do whatever those forces tell them to do. So, while you can play semantics all day long, NOBODY is required by the laws of God to forfeit their Liberty... and what does this new technology mandate a person do in order to buy and sell?
You are leading people down a dark path wherein they end up owing their souls to the powers that be of this world. When there is a one world religion, microchip technology will be used to keep you from rejecting the government's decree of that one world religion. Today, like the SSN was when first introduced, whether you use the technology or not is voluntary. But, if you do, it will ultimately be mandatory and it will be used as a tool of control.
Well, you are certainly entitled to you opinion. I happen to disagree. Back in the day, I studied all the various end-time theories, and concluded that preterism made the most sense of the evidence.
This is, most likely, the more likely path you should look at:
The Two Seeds Of Genesis 3 15 By Charles Lee Mange
Start at page 68 and read forward
Interesting I suppose, but there is no satan
ROTF LMAO
That's funny. Same thing he said to Eve.
G) The Bible Teaches About a Rapture
1 Thessalonians 4:17 speaks of an event called “the Rapture”, Latin “rapio,” Greek “harpazo,” which means “to catch up, to snatch away, or to take out.” “After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.” Paul states that the concept of the Rapture is meant to encourage believers during this Age (1 Thes. 4:18). Other New Testament references on the Rapture are Jn. 14:1-4; I Cor. 15:51-58; and 1 Thes. 4:13-18.
Why I Believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture | Rapture | Lamb and Lion Ministries
I read your post and the one following it. Within the person you are responding to, the poster that responded to your other post and my response, there are three people who disagree with your position.
In I Thessalonians 5: 22 there is a Bible command:
"Abstain from all appearance of evil."
We got it. When any semblance of evil crosses your path, you will accept it. Let's review the applicable verses of Revelations 13:
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.
In the final days you literally will not be able to buy or sell without a "Mark of the Beast." If you don't have the "Mark," then you will have to know the number of his name. My grand-father worried that the Socialist Surveillance Number ... ooops, "Social Security Number" was the precursor to the Mark of the Beast despite that the original SSN had the words "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION" printed across the front of each card in all caps.
Today, many places won't accept cash and swiping a card is preferable for cash transactions in most places that do accept cash. And when you go to do business with a lot of people, they want your "Social."
At the end of the day, the entire mindset is about control. Microchip technology is about control. It is about the forfeiture of Liberty. In Galatians 5 : 1 we are admonished:
“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”
When any government or corporate entity can monitor you 24 / 7 / 365 and force you to do what they want, they have you in absolute bondage. The Mark of the Beast is about having people that have accepted something that forces them to do whatever those forces tell them to do. So, while you can play semantics all day long, NOBODY is required by the laws of God to forfeit their Liberty... and what does this new technology mandate a person do in order to buy and sell?
You are leading people down a dark path wherein they end up owing their souls to the powers that be of this world. When there is a one world religion, microchip technology will be used to keep you from rejecting the government's decree of that one world religion. Today, like the SSN was when first introduced, whether you use the technology or not is voluntary. But, if you do, it will ultimately be mandatory and it will be used as a tool of control.
Well, you are certainly entitled to you opinion. I happen to disagree. Back in the day, I studied all the various end-time theories, and concluded that preterism made the most sense of the evidence.
This is, most likely, the more likely path you should look at:
The Two Seeds Of Genesis 3 15 By Charles Lee Mange
Start at page 68 and read forward
Interesting I suppose, but there is no satan
ROTF LMAO
That's funny. Same thing he said to Eve.
No, satan never spoke to Eve. That was a snake. The idea that it was satan is a Christian overlay upon the OT text. It's a re-interpretation, but there is nothing in that Genesis text to support that.
G) The Bible Teaches About a Rapture
1 Thessalonians 4:17 speaks of an event called “the Rapture”, Latin “rapio,” Greek “harpazo,” which means “to catch up, to snatch away, or to take out.” “After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.” Paul states that the concept of the Rapture is meant to encourage believers during this Age (1 Thes. 4:18). Other New Testament references on the Rapture are Jn. 14:1-4; I Cor. 15:51-58; and 1 Thes. 4:13-18.
Why I Believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture | Rapture | Lamb and Lion Ministries
Well, you are certainly entitled to you opinion. I happen to disagree. Back in the day, I studied all the various end-time theories, and concluded that preterism made the most sense of the evidence.
This is, most likely, the more likely path you should look at:
The Two Seeds Of Genesis 3 15 By Charles Lee Mange
Start at page 68 and read forward
Interesting I suppose, but there is no satan
ROTF LMAO
That's funny. Same thing he said to Eve.
No, satan never spoke to Eve. That was a snake. The idea that it was satan is a Christian overlay upon the OT text. It's a re-interpretation, but there is nothing in that Genesis text to support that.
Well, you are no Bible scholar.
"1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years..." Revelations 20
Between the encounter in Genesis and going all through the Bible is a record that proves you are 100 percent wrong.
This is interesting. A startup for a global identification system. If this ever became mandatory, it would be simple to then switch to a cashless society. Then no one would be able to buy or sell without this ID. This may be the precursor to the Mark of the Beast. It will use a smartphone, for now. But the technology already exist for RFID chips, as well as RFID tattoos, placed on the hand or the forehead.
Yoti aims to provide everyone with a biometric digital identity that works via a smartphone app
Yoti, a British start-up, is trying to establish a global identity system that protects users from both identity theft and having their data collected and exploited. All personal data remains within the Yoti ecosystem, where different elements – name, gender, date of birth etc – are encrypted and stored separately. Only the individual user can tie it all together.Yoti – derived from Your Own Trusted Identity – requires a smartphone, and there are apps for both Apple iOS and Android. The potential audience is in the billions.Yoti requires each user to create a digital identity. This involves providing biometric identifiers such as video and speech, plus an image of a government-backed identification document, such as a passport or a driving licence. Yoti discards these after the ID has been created. Yoti’s co-founder and CEO Robin Tombs says passport images are deleted after seven days.Users who have Android phones with NFC can read the chip in their digital passport. Tombs says Apple doesn’t allow this at the moment.If a company wants to verify a user, it presents them with a QR code that they can read with the Yoti app. They can verify their Yoti ID by entering a 5-digit pin or their biometrics: that is, by videoing themselves and by speaking random words displayed on the smartphone screen. If you’re holding your smartphone in the usual way, the video is easily captured: the app just turns on the front-facing camera.
This is interesting. A startup for a global identification system. If this ever became mandatory, it would be simple to then switch to a cashless society. Then no one would be able to buy or sell without this ID. This may be the precursor to the Mark of the Beast. It will use a smartphone, for now. But the technology already exist for RFID chips, as well as RFID tattoos, placed on the hand or the forehead.
Yoti aims to provide everyone with a biometric digital identity that works via a smartphone app
Yoti, a British start-up, is trying to establish a global identity system that protects users from both identity theft and having their data collected and exploited. All personal data remains within the Yoti ecosystem, where different elements – name, gender, date of birth etc – are encrypted and stored separately. Only the individual user can tie it all together.Yoti – derived from Your Own Trusted Identity – requires a smartphone, and there are apps for both Apple iOS and Android. The potential audience is in the billions.Yoti requires each user to create a digital identity. This involves providing biometric identifiers such as video and speech, plus an image of a government-backed identification document, such as a passport or a driving licence. Yoti discards these after the ID has been created. Yoti’s co-founder and CEO Robin Tombs says passport images are deleted after seven days.Users who have Android phones with NFC can read the chip in their digital passport. Tombs says Apple doesn’t allow this at the moment.If a company wants to verify a user, it presents them with a QR code that they can read with the Yoti app. They can verify their Yoti ID by entering a 5-digit pin or their biometrics: that is, by videoing themselves and by speaking random words displayed on the smartphone screen. If you’re holding your smartphone in the usual way, the video is easily captured: the app just turns on the front-facing camera.
You lost me when you called it the "mark of the beast". No rational conversation should start with that.
