Is there a tradeoff between freedom and prosperity?

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    [​IMG]Lots of folks justify such pest holes as Cuba and North Korea as improvements on what had gone on before. (In Cuba's case, codswallop)

    Even if tyranny were the way to prosperity, or just limited freedom made things a little better for you if not for those around you, is that a path that anyone should take?
     
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    I have a greater concern about people who believe Cats speak English with weird accents.
     
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    I think the best answer/example to your question is Korea itself. See: collectivist North verses the Individualist South.

    I'd say no to the path of limited freedom every time. Yes to some rule of law with very limited regulations that apply equaly to all. The purpose of government is to protect individual rights and nothing more.

    /2 cents
     
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    Never worked before so I'd say no. However government being involved heavily in economic activity of the nation proved to be very successful in Europe and North America.

    P.S. For crowd who identifies freedom based on tax burden go fuck yourself and do not comment on what I just said, thanks.
     
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    South Korea has universal healthcare system. That god damn commie influence!
     
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    Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

    I'd be pretty disappointed if any didn't know who that quote is from.
     
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    The nice thing about South Korea is that if someone got really sick they could always hop a plane to Hawaii in case they needed real great care.

    Anyway, the OP brought it up and if you can make a case that South Korea is more collectivist than North Korea I'd love to hear it. (also your plans for a perpetual motion machine while your at it)

    :lol:
     
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    Wait, North Korea is the standard now? Right wing sure knows how to dive deep.
     
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    Standard for what?

    What Korea is, is a stark and handy example of one culture and how the question of freedom and prosperity was anwered in that divided place. That is the point of this thread after all.
     
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    Yes, the less freedom you have, the less prosperity you get.
     

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