Is the Supreme Court wrong?

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    Jillian keeps claiming that the Supreme Court was wrong for authorizing Military tribunals for the Gitmo detainees, INCLUDING KSM and the others recently granted a trial in Federal Court by THIS administration.

    She and those that support the trials ignore the fact that KSM was already tried in a Military Tribunal and PLEAD GUILTY. And that Obama stopped the Court.

    She and others have stated these men could not get a fair trial anywhere but in a civilian court, which says they disagree with the Supreme Court. She and the others have stated that KSM was never brought to trial, totally ignoring the fact he WAS tried and he pleaded GUILTY.

    She and the others insist that the left made no effort to stop the military tribunals ever since the Bush administration announced they would be held.

    So is the Supreme Court guilty of a perversion of Justice?

    And if so then WHY is Obama and Holder going to allow some of the Gitmo people BE tried by Military Tribunal?

    And how does one try a man in Federal Court if he was never given Miranda rights, never given access to lawyers for most of his incarceration, held by the military for years? Those all VIOLATE the rights of people that CAN be tried in Federal Court. The interrogations of these prisoners violate the rights of anyone that is brought before the Court in a Federal Court. How does the Government sweep these violations under the rug?
     
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    was it a unanimous decision, RGS?

    I do so wish you'd stop pretending you have the *right* answers... when even the justices don't agree on everything.

    now go have a bloody mary or something and get a grip.
     
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    So shall I assume you think the right to an abortion is wrong too? After all that decision was 5 to 4 as I recall. Or is it just the decisions you do not like that are wrong? Partisan hack applies so well to you.

    By the way Jillian, you do realize that your buddy Obama is going to let Holder have some of the terrorists actually tried by military Tribunals right?
     
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    Gee, I hate to burst your bubble, I really do. But the Dred Scott decision was overturned by the 14th Amendment. Nowadays , If an individual is within the federal court jurisdiction then he has the right to access the court.

    He also confessed to murdering President Carter and to blowing up the Panama Canal. Guys say funny things when their nuts are being squeezed.
     
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    Provide evidence he said either of those things. And once again DUMB ASS, they are NOT in the federal COURT SYSTEM UNTIL OBAMA ALLOWS THEM TO BE MOVED THERE. The Supreme COURT ruled that Military Tribunals are legal and proper for the detainees at Gitmo and anyone else we capture in a similar manner OUTSIDE the United States.

    Holder made a claim that Bush never tried them when in fact he did as soon as the Supreme Court cleared all the bogus challenges made on Military tribunals.
     
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    How'd that abortion vote go? Were there 5 small government libertarians on the court who voted for abortion rights? ;)
     
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    HUH?

    So federal courts have no jurisdiction in Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico? Geography has nothing to do with LEGAL JURISDICTION.

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    The first confession released by the Bush regime’s Military Tribunals – that of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed – has discredited the entire process. Writing in Jurist, Northwestern University law professor Anthony D’Amato likens Mohammed’s confession to those that emerged in Stalin’s show trials of Bolshevik leaders in the 1930s.

    Mohammed’s confession admits to 31 planned and actual attacks all over the world, including blowing up the Panama Canal and assassinating presidents Carter and Clinton and the Pope. Having taken responsibility for the whole ball of wax along with everything else that he could imagine, he was the entire show. No other terrorists needed.

    .:eek:
     
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    Good god you are fucking stupid. Alaska and Hawaii are part of the United STATES and Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States. NONE of the Gitmo detainees where captured in side the US. they were all captured in foreign Countries. And until they are moved to New York KSM and his buddies will never have been in the US or under its Courts Jurisdiction.

    Once again you dumb fuck the Supreme Court RULED they can be tried by Military tribunals.
     
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    Well , that point is moot.

    They were brought into Guantanamo which is US soil. Those folks are Human Beings , they deserve the right not to be deprived of life or liberty without due process of law.

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    WRONG, they are not civilian criminals. They rate no time in a civilian court at all. They are illegal armed combatants. Gitmo is not US soil, it is Cuban soil.
     

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