Is the Senate Going to Vote with the House?

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Will 10 Senator Defect?

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    All the Senate Republicans and Liberman will vote against it (41), that mean 10 Democrats have to defect for the bill to die (a tie vote will go to the I believe the VP, meaning it will get approval)!

    So will the 10 Democrats vote against the President and Democrats?
     
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    I don't think the bluedogs have the courage to go against the Party, Obama, Reid and Pelosi on this one! I think it will get passed!
     
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    I dont understand that. It will take 60 votes to pass because of the threat of filibuster. There are 100 Senators so minus 41 GOP+Lieberman gives 59. If they vote like that then the bill is dead.
    And that assumes that "Sheets" Byrd from WV is available. He's over 90 and has been pretty sick recently.
     
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    Its only a majority meaning they need 51 votes! The 2/3 vote only comes into play to over-ride a Presidential veto. If there is a tie, I believe the Vice President votes to break the tie! Meaning Biden would get the chance to vote yes!
     
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    The Dems need 60 votes to overcome a filibuster which is what they will be facing.

    We can add civics to the list of things you are easily confused by.
     
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    Smokey,

    60 votes is needed to prevent a filibuster! Filibusters stall votes, but the majority can end a fillabuster by a closture! A vote will be harder to get, but it will come!
     
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    afaik, the only way it gets through the Senate with a simple majority is through reconciliation, but who knows how feasible that really is with this hc bill... and not to mention that it's got some nasty potential political side effects.
     
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    Cloture takes 60 votes. I think that is the point people are making. If Lieberman supports a GOP filibuster, there are not enough votes for cloture.
     
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    Cloture takes a vote? I thought cloture was a motioned by the Senate Majority Leader! Are you certain about that? If that is the case then a cloture is well useless.:eusa_eh:
     
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    cloture requires 60 votes!

    you're a fucking idiot!

    not surprised!

    :rofl:
     
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