Is the Red Cross full of Nazis

In other words, you have no confirmation of "atrocities". It's just something you assume is happening.

Nice.
 
Eye witness testimony by unbiased observers.

They are there only to help the wounded.

You do realize people are on death row due to eyewitness testimony right?
 
Eye witness testimony by unbiased observers.

They are there only to help the wounded.

You do realize people are on death row due to eyewitness testimony right?

unbiased being the key word there. Which is, of course, what's in dispute.
 
Moral Blindness on Gaza

By Robert Scheer

Why are we so indifferent to the death and destruction in Gaza?

Why is it that there is such widespread acceptance, beginning with the apologetic arguments of President Bush, that whatever Israel does is always justified as necessary to the survival of the Jewish state?

It is not.

While the Hamas rocket attacks are reprehensible, they are also an ineffectual challenge to Israel's enormous security apparatus, and the severity of Israel's response to them is counterproductive. Clearly, the very existence of Israel is not now, nor has it ever been, seriously challenged by anything the Palestinians did. Not back in 1948, when Israel was established as a state with insignificant Palestinian military resistance, nor at the time of the 1967 Six-Day War when Egypt, Syria and Jordan fought Israel.

The Palestinians were in no position to confront the Israeli army, because those whose lands were not already occupied by Israel were living under oppressive Egyptian control in Gaza and tough Jordanian rule in the West Bank. After the speedy Israeli victory, which demolished the myth of the new state's vulnerability, the Palestinians became imprisoned as a people by Israel for crimes they had not committed.

Even if we accept the harshest portrayal of the tactics and motives of the Palestinian movements against Israel after the Six-Day War, at what point did that terrorism represent a serious challenge to the survival of the Jewish people or the state that claims to speak in their name? Yet that survival is invoked to justify the vastly excessive use of force by the Israeli war machine, with frequent allusions to the Holocaust previously visited upon the Jewish people, a holocaust that had nothing to do with Palestinians or Muslims, and everything to do with Central Europeans claiming to be Christians. The high moral claim of the Israeli occupation rests not on the objective reality of a Palestinian threat to Israel's survival, but rather on the non sequitur cry that "never again" should harm come to Jews as it did in Central Europe seven decades ago.

The basic argument is that Palestinian terrorists represented by Hamas are given to an irrational hatred of Jews so profound that it invalidates their movement, even when they win elections. That was not the view of the Israeli security service when it earlier supported Hamas as the alternative to the then dreaded PLO. Also, history is replete with examples of terrorists becoming statesmen, even within the early ranks of Jews fighting to establish the state of Israel. One of those was Menachem Begin, who went on to be an elected leader of the new state. But before Begin attained that respectability, back in 1948 when he visited the United States, a group of prominent Jewish intellectuals including Albert Einstein, Sidney Hook and Hannah Arendt wrote a letter to The New York Times warning that Begin was a former leader of the "Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine." The letter urged Jews to shun Begin, arguing, "It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents."

Begin's new party was then participating in the Israeli election, and Einstein and his colleagues, many of whom like the physicist had been victims of German fascism, stated, "Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character."

Those actions were then detailed in the letter. They included the systematic terrorizing of innocent Palestinian men, women and children in an effort to force them to flee the territory that Begin's party claimed for the new state of Israel.

Clearly Begin and his political heirs, who include Benjamin Netanyahu, the most likely victor in the next Israeli election, evolved in their behavior. But I bring it up now to highlight the one-sided reporting of the current phase of this interminable conflict and to wonder: Where are the voices that reflect the uncompromising morality of Einstein's generation of Jewish intellectuals willing to acknowledge fault and humanity on both sides of the political equation?
Moral Blindness on Gaza
 
Wait? You mean when Arabs controlled Gaza they were oppressive too? I wonder why that is?

Let's make this simple NIMROD, what is Israel to do about a group that refuses to stop sending THOUSANDS of missiles, mortars and rockets into the Country aimed at CIVILIANS? A group that REFUSES a ceasefire while it is losing and is causing ( not the Israelis) the death of hundreds of civilians?

Tell ya what Black as Coal, Since you seem to be of the opinion that THOUSANDS of Rockets, missiles and mortars fired into Israel every year is no big deal, I suggest we set up a similar event on your town of residence. I mean if dodging income fire is no biggie, you won't mind right? And if you or people you know die from it, so what, right?
 
I can't believe you are actually blaming Israel for Hamas using their own children as human shields.

Using children as shields should never be condoned .. but it wasn't Hamas who blew them up.

Ask God how he/she/it feels about blowing up children .. oh wait .. God sends soldiers to murder children .. and men .. and babies .. and women unknown to Man .. thus the soldiers get to keep the virgins to themselves.

God as Pimp.

Never mind .. don't ask he/she/it.
 
What reason do you have to suspect the Red Cross of being Biased?

You can not be serious? They allow their vehicles to be used to run terrorist fighters around, they allow their vehicles to be used to transport arms and munitions.

The Red Crescent is MUSLIMS. The Red Crescent in Gaza is the SAME Arab Muslims that voted IN Hamas.
 
Eye witness testimony by unbiased observers.

They are there only to help the wounded.

You do realize people are on death row due to eyewitness testimony right?

Idiot. You have provided no eye witness testimony of atrocities by biased or unbiased observers.
 
You can not be serious? They allow their vehicles to be used to run terrorist fighters around, they allow their vehicles to be used to transport arms and munitions.

The Red Crescent is MUSLIMS. The Red Crescent in Gaza is the SAME Arab Muslims that voted IN Hamas.


This is from the red cross.
 
When did the Red Cross become so biased in your silly minds and why?
 
Moral Blindness on Gaza

By Robert Scheer

Why are we so indifferent to the death and destruction in Gaza?

Why is it that there is such widespread acceptance, beginning with the apologetic arguments of President Bush, that whatever Israel does is always justified as necessary to the survival of the Jewish state?

It is not.

While the Hamas rocket attacks are reprehensible, they are also an ineffectual challenge to Israel's enormous security apparatus, and the severity of Israel's response to them is counterproductive. Clearly, the very existence of Israel is not now, nor has it ever been, seriously challenged by anything the Palestinians did. Not back in 1948, when Israel was established as a state with insignificant Palestinian military resistance, nor at the time of the 1967 Six-Day War when Egypt, Syria and Jordan fought Israel.

The Palestinians were in no position to confront the Israeli army, because those whose lands were not already occupied by Israel were living under oppressive Egyptian control in Gaza and tough Jordanian rule in the West Bank. After the speedy Israeli victory, which demolished the myth of the new state's vulnerability, the Palestinians became imprisoned as a people by Israel for crimes they had not committed.

Even if we accept the harshest portrayal of the tactics and motives of the Palestinian movements against Israel after the Six-Day War, at what point did that terrorism represent a serious challenge to the survival of the Jewish people or the state that claims to speak in their name? Yet that survival is invoked to justify the vastly excessive use of force by the Israeli war machine, with frequent allusions to the Holocaust previously visited upon the Jewish people, a holocaust that had nothing to do with Palestinians or Muslims, and everything to do with Central Europeans claiming to be Christians. The high moral claim of the Israeli occupation rests not on the objective reality of a Palestinian threat to Israel's survival, but rather on the non sequitur cry that "never again" should harm come to Jews as it did in Central Europe seven decades ago.

The basic argument is that Palestinian terrorists represented by Hamas are given to an irrational hatred of Jews so profound that it invalidates their movement, even when they win elections. That was not the view of the Israeli security service when it earlier supported Hamas as the alternative to the then dreaded PLO. Also, history is replete with examples of terrorists becoming statesmen, even within the early ranks of Jews fighting to establish the state of Israel. One of those was Menachem Begin, who went on to be an elected leader of the new state. But before Begin attained that respectability, back in 1948 when he visited the United States, a group of prominent Jewish intellectuals including Albert Einstein, Sidney Hook and Hannah Arendt wrote a letter to The New York Times warning that Begin was a former leader of the "Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine." The letter urged Jews to shun Begin, arguing, "It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents."

Begin's new party was then participating in the Israeli election, and Einstein and his colleagues, many of whom like the physicist had been victims of German fascism, stated, "Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character."

Those actions were then detailed in the letter. They included the systematic terrorizing of innocent Palestinian men, women and children in an effort to force them to flee the territory that Begin's party claimed for the new state of Israel.

Clearly Begin and his political heirs, who include Benjamin Netanyahu, the most likely victor in the next Israeli election, evolved in their behavior. But I bring it up now to highlight the one-sided reporting of the current phase of this interminable conflict and to wonder: Where are the voices that reflect the uncompromising morality of Einstein's generation of Jewish intellectuals willing to acknowledge fault and humanity on both sides of the political equation?
Moral Blindness on Gaza

Look, My friends and I don't like you. It doesn't matter what our reason; the bottom line is we want you to move out of the neighborhood, so we've decided that we're going to throw eggs at your house every single day that we can. Now mind you, we're not a serious threat, and sometimes the eggs we throw won't even make it to your house. They'll just land on your grass.

If you have us arrested, in a court of law, then our family members will start throwing eggs at your house. If they're arrested, then we'll find other friends and supporters to throw eggs at your house. You're never going to get away from these eggs, and you'll be cleaning up the mess from here to eternity, no matter what legal measures you or the authorities might take.

Think you'll get pissed off enough to take action on your own? Or will you agree that the eggs my friends and I are throwing at your property are just a small ineffective nuisance?
 
Why do you believe the Israeli government over the red cross?
 
"The Israeli military must have been aware of the situation but did not assist the wounded," Pierre Wettach said in a statement. "Neither did they make it possible for us or the Palestine Red Crescent to assist the wounded."
 
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