Is the GOP base proud of what their leaders have done for them and the country?

I just want to know.

And while we are at it, what is it the Republican leadership has done to make them so proud?

So far so good.

They've stopped additional Obama damage to the country.
Typical....detail-free....Teabagger-response.

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you probably need directions to wipe your own ass!!..........OK libb here's how to wipe your ass.....step #1. pic up your tooth brush and then.........:lol::lol:
 
This Norquist fellow, was he voted in? And if not, how did he obtain so much power?


legit questions, no?

He is a man who would like to make the government small enough to "drown in a bathtub". In other words, a man who wishes to destroy the government.

He makes candidates sign pledges to him that they will never, ever, ever...under any circumstances (like two unpaid for wars) raise taxes EVER for any reason. He tells them that he will use his political influence and clout to Primary them if they don't sign his pledge.

You saw how that turned out during the Debt Ceiling hostage taking and the subsequent downgrading of our credit rating.
 
What happened to "Elections have consequences, Eric. We won"

Did Obama lose in 08?
 
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And yet every time the Tea Baggers held the country hostage for budget cuts, the bloat of the military was never talked about. Nobody talked about stopping the waste, fraud and abuse being carried out by military contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan. (as detailed in post #17 of this thread)

Please explain the collation between the unemployment rate in this country and the drop out rate...where? High School? College? There are currently something like 5 applicants for every 1 job.

Our jobs problem has to do with jobs moving overseas for cheap labor...any ideas how to fix that beyond what the Republican candidates want to do which is to lower OUR standard of living to match these cheap labor countries?

Another problem is that we don't MAKE anything that other countries want to buy...except war (which leads us back to the problem in the first paragraph). Any ideas what we could make here that other countries want to buy?

Finally, we have a demand problem. Small Businesses aren't expanding because people aren't buying. People aren't buying because they are seeing more and more companies laying employees off and just sitting on their piles and piles of cash. They aren't spending 'cause they are afraid they'll be next. Any ideas on how to spur investment into expansion of their companies? We tried 10 years of historically low taxes and THAT didn't work. Any other ideas?

Our asses are getting kicked in education, manufacturing and technology. I'd like to be number one in something besides making war...

...although I hear the American auto companies have been on the tail of the Japanese for the #1 spot! What a comeback eh?

1. the Defense Budget is on the cutting block if the Debt Commission can't agree on spending cuts. So your first point is wrong
2. Collation?? How about correlation? If you can't spell it you wouldn't understand the answer regarding matching currently available jobs with the skill sets of drop-outs.
3. You say 5 applicants for every job?! The jobs we need to get back are the hi-tech manufacturing jobs. Than requires very smart workers, not drop-outs.
US high-tech manufacturing base erosion breaks ‘chain of experience’ | SmartPlanet
Obama launches $500M U.S. high-tech manufacturing initiative - Mass High Tech Business News
4. Cheap overseas labor is a BIG problem, especially when the government is fighting companies like Boeing for example, who built a $1b plant in SC and now can't run it. Total stupidity.
5. Ideas? How about "fair trade" tariffs? Other than that, the only other idea I have is to prohibit derivatives and short-selling of US companies. That will raise capital and allow capital to grow and hire. Part of the problem now is that companies are losing money due to the massive short-selling. We also need cheap energy, whether its nuclear, wind, or CNG.
 
Is the GOP base proud of what their leaders have done for them and the country?

Yes.

Their leaders have only done good things, the dems did all the bad stuff.
 
Is the GOP base proud of what their leaders have done for them and the country?

Yes.

Their leaders have only done good things, the dems did all the bad stuff.

I dont know about all that.

But they have stopped Obama from implementing a lot of his garbage. That alone will get my vote this next presidential election. Obama has screwed the pooch so well my third party vote now turns into a repub vote.

I am going to use the same spirit the dems used, anybody but!!!!!
 
And yet every time the Tea Baggers held the country hostage for budget cuts, the bloat of the military was never talked about. Nobody talked about stopping the waste, fraud and abuse being carried out by military contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan. (as detailed in post #17 of this thread)

Please explain the collation between the unemployment rate in this country and the drop out rate...where? High School? College? There are currently something like 5 applicants for every 1 job.

Our jobs problem has to do with jobs moving overseas for cheap labor...any ideas how to fix that beyond what the Republican candidates want to do which is to lower OUR standard of living to match these cheap labor countries?

Another problem is that we don't MAKE anything that other countries want to buy...except war (which leads us back to the problem in the first paragraph). Any ideas what we could make here that other countries want to buy?

Finally, we have a demand problem. Small Businesses aren't expanding because people aren't buying. People aren't buying because they are seeing more and more companies laying employees off and just sitting on their piles and piles of cash. They aren't spending 'cause they are afraid they'll be next. Any ideas on how to spur investment into expansion of their companies? We tried 10 years of historically low taxes and THAT didn't work. Any other ideas?

Our asses are getting kicked in education, manufacturing and technology. I'd like to be number one in something besides making war...

...although I hear the American auto companies have been on the tail of the Japanese for the #1 spot! What a comeback eh?

1. the Defense Budget is on the cutting block if the Debt Commission can't agree on spending cuts. So your first point is wrong
2. Collation?? How about correlation? If you can't spell it you wouldn't understand the answer regarding matching currently available jobs with the skill sets of drop-outs.
3. You say 5 applicants for every job?! The jobs we need to get back are the hi-tech manufacturing jobs. Than requires very smart workers, not drop-outs.
US high-tech manufacturing base erosion breaks ‘chain of experience’ | SmartPlanet
Obama launches $500M U.S. high-tech manufacturing initiative - Mass High Tech Business News
4. Cheap overseas labor is a BIG problem, especially when the government is fighting companies like Boeing for example, who built a $1b plant in SC and now can't run it. Total stupidity.
5. Ideas? How about "fair trade" tariffs? Other than that, the only other idea I have is to prohibit derivatives and short-selling of US companies. That will raise capital and allow capital to grow and hire. Part of the problem now is that companies are losing money due to the massive short-selling. We also need cheap energy, whether its nuclear, wind, or CNG.

1. The military cuts were only on the table AFTER the original hostage taking. It was NEVER proposed as part of the Budget Munster Ryan's plan and it wasn't in any of the hostage negotiations until the "last minute" Super Congress was formed. That it is a trigger has nothing to do with GnOP or their budget plans (which seem to ONLY include social safety nets)

2&3. Really, that's your response...pinging on my spelling error? Odds are that 1 of those 5 DO have the skills needed...they just want more money for their skills than they are paying in India. As for the drop out rate in this country, what are the proposed solutions by the GnOP? Do they have any? This is what I found from a report on the US dropout rate...

"absence of new funding at the federal and state level since the 1980s has led to decades of disinvestment in re-enrollment programs across the country."

How is the GnOP plan to cut education funding going to combat this problem?

4. The answer to overseas cheap labor isn't making labor cheaper over here. Is it really just coincidence that as union membership decreases, so does the middle class share of income? I know...let's try and experiment and try giving people a fair wage, a good pension and health benefits. Let's see what happens.

5. I certainly agree that we need "cheap" energy. Actually, what we need is FREE energy. The cost of our energy should be in the appliance used to collect and store it, not the energy itself. Without government investment in R & D, how is that going to happen?

Businesses aren't hiring because people aren't spending. People aren't spending because business aren't hiring. A small handful of people are sitting on mounds and mounds of cash. They aren't lending it, they aren't spending it and they aren't investing it. Tax breaks didn't do dick. Something has got to give. Personally, I think raising taxes will spur these people to invest their money instead of sitting on it. Let's try it and see. If it doesn't, we can always try "trickle down...again". :rolleyes:

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The #1 problem here in the US, as noted by the military Chiefs is the National Debt and Deficit.

How? How is the national debt the #1 problem? Just because people say it is? Over and over. Why does no one even attempt to SHOW why the debt is a problem? Oh that's right. Because it's not. Interest rates are at historic lows. We could borrow and dump money into the economy and come out ahead right now, but no, that's bad. That's evil. That's socialism. Must not do that.

The #1 problem in this country right now is jobs, as in, people need them. The GOP has done exactly nothing to address the #1 problem. All they've done is try to make you think there is a different #1 problem.
 
The #1 problem here in the US, as noted by the military Chiefs is the National Debt and Deficit.

How? How is the national debt the #1 problem? Just because people say it is? Over and over. Why does no one even attempt to SHOW why the debt is a problem? Oh that's right. Because it's not. Interest rates are at historic lows. We could borrow and dump money into the economy and come out ahead right now, but no, that's bad. That's evil. That's socialism. Must not do that.

The #1 problem in this country right now is jobs, as in, people need them. The GOP has done exactly nothing to address the #1 problem. All they've done is try to make you think there is a different #1 problem.

And actually, if people had jobs and were SPENDING their money...we wouldn't have as much of a debt or deficit problem. So, how do we get there? What can we build that people are buying?


Jobs in the clean technology industry are growing twice as fast as the national average
 
The #1 problem here in the US, as noted by the military Chiefs is the National Debt and Deficit.

How? How is the national debt the #1 problem? Just because people say it is? Over and over. Why does no one even attempt to SHOW why the debt is a problem? Oh that's right. Because it's not. Interest rates are at historic lows. We could borrow and dump money into the economy and come out ahead right now, but no, that's bad. That's evil. That's socialism. Must not do that.

The #1 problem in this country right now is jobs, as in, people need them. The GOP has done exactly nothing to address the #1 problem. All they've done is try to make you think there is a different #1 problem.

Wake up dufus!!!

Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding

It will become the number one expense next year.
 
The #1 problem here in the US, as noted by the military Chiefs is the National Debt and Deficit.

How? How is the national debt the #1 problem? Just because people say it is? Over and over. Why does no one even attempt to SHOW why the debt is a problem? Oh that's right. Because it's not. Interest rates are at historic lows. We could borrow and dump money into the economy and come out ahead right now, but no, that's bad. That's evil. That's socialism. Must not do that.

The #1 problem in this country right now is jobs, as in, people need them. The GOP has done exactly nothing to address the #1 problem. All they've done is try to make you think there is a different #1 problem.

Read and learn, then post your opinions.
Mullen: Debt is top national security threat - CNN

After the DC whores move 14,000 factories overseas, and 3,000,000 US jobs with them is NOT the time to whine about "jobs". They were bought by Lobbyists, and STILL ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO GET COMPANIES LIKE GE, APPLE, to build and hire here...then again, Boeing built a new $1,000,000,000 plant in SC and can't run it due to unions and the NLRB. Re-think the #1 problems facing job creation.
 
The #1 problem here in the US, as noted by the military Chiefs is the National Debt and Deficit.

How? How is the national debt the #1 problem? Just because people say it is? Over and over. Why does no one even attempt to SHOW why the debt is a problem? Oh that's right. Because it's not. Interest rates are at historic lows. We could borrow and dump money into the economy and come out ahead right now, but no, that's bad. That's evil. That's socialism. Must not do that.

The #1 problem in this country right now is jobs, as in, people need them. The GOP has done exactly nothing to address the #1 problem. All they've done is try to make you think there is a different #1 problem.

Read and learn, then post your opinions.
Mullen: Debt is top national security threat - CNN

After the DC whores move 14,000 factories overseas, and 3,000,000 US jobs with them is NOT the time to whine about "jobs". They were bought by Lobbyists, and STILL ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO GET COMPANIES LIKE GE, APPLE, to build and hire here...then again, Boeing built a new $1,000,000,000 plant in SC and can't run it due to unions and the NLRB. Re-think the #1 problems facing job creation.

So we're to take economic advice from Generals now? You did read the link, right? You did see where he is basically just worried about financing the military. Our total debt has nothing to do with that. We've had debt for decades, and had much higher debt in the past (by percentage of GDP) and through it all we were able to finance the military.

I did like this gem though:
Mullen has been telling his audiences that interest on the debt will nearly equal the defense budget in two years, but Congressional Budget Office numbers, in a report released in January, show the interest payment approaching the Pentagon's 2000 budget in 2012 and reaching its 2010 budget in 2019.
Shhh. Don't tell Full-Auto.
 
For the most part, yes I'm good with what the repubs have done. Considering that a democrat is in the WH and the democrats control the Senate, it's hard to expect more than what they've done so far. I'm not a member of the GOP or any of the TPs either, but on fiscal issues I am more conservative and I do think the liberal policies Obama put in place have failed. Whether the repubs can do better remians to be seen, but they're going to have to regain the WH and the Senate to do anything significant.
 
So we're to take economic advice from Generals now? You did read the link, right? You did see where he is basically just worried about financing the military. Our total debt has nothing to do with that. We've had debt for decades, and had much higher debt in the past (by percentage of GDP) and through it all we were able to finance the military.

I did like this gem though:
Mullen has been telling his audiences that interest on the debt will nearly equal the defense budget in two years, but Congressional Budget Office numbers, in a report released in January, show the interest payment approaching the Pentagon's 2000 budget in 2012 and reaching its 2010 budget in 2019.
Shhh. Don't tell Full-Auto.

1. You do know that if the Debt Commission guys can't agree on spending cuts then the military automatically gets cut? When interest rates start going up, and/or boomers need Medicare, the military gets squeezed. We will never vote to cut SS/Medicare before cutting Defense. Point being the US military is getting CUT and the Chinese military fully funded. The Joint Chiefs are just sayin...
2. Based on assumed interest rates, blah blah blah. Medicare goes insolvent in 2017, so Defense gets hacked wayyyy before 2017.
 
Medicare goes insolvent in 2017, so Defense gets hacked wayyyy before 2017.

Stop listening to Paul Ryan. He's lying to you.

Ryan’s Muddy Medicare Claims | FactCheck.org

Read the article it says:
"The fund’s exhaustion date was 2017 under a "high-cost," or more pessimistic scenario."
Its realistic w/o Congressional action, and we all know how likely that is.

The Trustees
Trustees Report Summary
The projected date of HI Trust Fund exhaustion is 2024, five years earlier than estimated in last year’s report, at which time dedicated revenues would be sufficient to pay 90 percent of HI costs."
 
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