Debate Now Is the Cultural Paradigm Shifting Along with the Demographic Changes?

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    Wow! I say white americans discriminated against Blacks and your answer is that you thought Blacks were just as patriotic in spite of the racism? Whites think in a disjointed, off rhythm, fashion similar to how they dance.
     
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    Wow! I said:
    and your answer is that white americans discriminated against blacks?

    P.S. Rhythm is no replacement for ordered thinking.
     
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    Yes. I disagreed it had very little to do with race and spelled it out for you why you were wrong.

    No rhythm = no ordered thinking.
     
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    Well..this thread went a bit South..no pun intended...LOL!
    Asclepias...your monomaniacal focus on racism..as you see it..is well known--it is logically unsupportable..unless one accepts your premise--that racism was and is the underlying gestalt of the American experience. I do not..mostly because it is historically unsupportable. Racist statements like "Whites think in a disjointed, off rhythm, fashion similar to how they dance.", are as true as "Blacks can't hold a real job and they have no sense of family--they invented 'baby-mama'"--they don't help your case. The language of racism is always ugly..and I have never met, read nor listened to a racist that did not strike me as dumb as dirt within 5 minutes. I find it interesting that both sides of the argument focus of the 'left-behinds' of both cultures..while the successful people of all colors just keep on keepin' on.

    BTW..America was NEVER a penal colony--some convicts were transported to some colonies--mostly Georgia and points south. Unless you count Bond-servants--mostly white debtors..and transportees..who were not sent here to serve a sentence, but as a result of running afoul of the law..not hard to do..in England of the time. For a penal colony..see Australia..and see the effects of the colony on the indigenous Black culture.

    If I were in a baiting kind of mood..I might ask you just what do you think the future of the black race..that portion that was enslaved in America, would have been..had that never occurred? Do you posit a African utopia..in Africa? To bring it back to demographics...what place would African immigrants hold here..if any? Do you see any positives in the influence of white civilization of black culture...language..literacy...economic empowerment? I see many positives for the White culture..both economically and culturally. Do you admit that the reverse also holds true? There is a cogent argument..ugly, but cogent..that states that the enslavement of a portion of the African race was, in fact, its salvation--that coming through the fires and adapting to some of the cultural practices of the majority has resulted in a strong and vibrant people that would never have existed otherwise.

    If our country had ended up more homogeneous..would that have been a positive? For Black people/For White people?

    Well..anyway..here we are. An amalgam of cultures and races. To me, race is irrelevant..culture rules.
     

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