Is the constitution outdated?

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    Well, of course to begin with what we have is a republic but I get what you say.

    One man one vote would be good if we had an homogenous population...people with similar values, goals, aspirations, etc. In a few short years the people that founded and built this nation will be a minority in our own country if the current demographic trends continue.

    Thus all these different groups and nationalities of people we now have here as citizens have different agendas, goals, aspirations etc. and each pulling in a different direction hence the paralyslis in Washington and not even to mention the majority pop. as of now....being caucasians are also split between liberals and conservatives...net result a huge mess tht is not going to get any better unless we make some radical or extremist type changes.
     
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    That is one view and there are others and that is why the Supreme Ct. should have stepped in and clarified what a natural born citizen is . But they were too cowardly to do so --as in they were unwilling to take the heat or blowback that would have occurred if they had declared Obama not to be a natural born citizen and thus unqualified. There would likely have been riots in black communities all across America. So they passed the buck. Refused to deal with it....claiming it was not their responsibilty...that it was a political matter. Unfriggin believable...the supreme ct. saying that interpeting what the constitution means by natural born citizen does not fall under their authority???
     
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    Nobody said the words change. The interpretation does.
     
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    Well, the US could have a homogeneous population, but the problem with democracy is that people find it easier to stand on a platform of division and hate than on actually doing the best for the country.

    But when people are forced to cooperate, then it is better.

    The Swiss have a nice system. Not sure how it'd translate up to a large population like the US.

    The executive is made up of people who have gained bi-partisan support, there are 7 members and one holds the status of head of state for like a year and it rotates.

    So, you have to have gone through the legislature and proven yourself to both sides in order to get to be a part of the executive. This stops people like Trump who come from nowhere.

    Obama wouldn't have had anywhere near enough experience. Dubya neither. It'd lead to cooperation, as it does in Switzerland.

    Also they have referenda and some other stuff which I never figured out the difference between the two (or three).

    But there are things that can be done.
     
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    Especially when the things around the words change.

    Before the internet and after the internet, the first amendment interpretation is going to change, because everything is different.
     
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    That doesnt make it a "living document" that means new people come in with their own agenda.
    If the Constitution was the agenda, it would never change.
    Thats why people like me always call them political activists.
     
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    How? Wouldnt it just be trying to decide if the internet is "speech" or not?
     
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    Wrong as usual, it was never ruled on, there is NO body of law that EVER said the 2nd was a collective right controlled by the Government.
     
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    Right....
     

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