Is the constitution outdated?

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    The problem is the government doesn’t abide by the Constitution. This is clearly evident in the lack of privacy all Americans are now subject to. Not to state the numerous other violations by government.
     
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    Its the violations, through artistic leftist interpretation, that have weakened the Constitution. And the many laws on the books that violate our constitution.
     
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    Government by comittee would be a disaster. Congress itself is bad enough. In fact our form of government is increasingly dysfunctional. Mainly due to diversity/multiculturalism. We have so many different groups now with their own agendas and all pulling and pushing for their particular agenda....creates paralysis at the highest levels. Time to change our form of government. Democracy/republic requires a certain level of homogenity which we no longer have.
     
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    Well, the problem is the US govt is a disaster right now. It needs to change and couldn't be that much worse.

    So you don't want democracy. Then what?
     
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    It is not a question of not wanting democracy. It is a problem of our system of government democracy/republic becoming increasingly dysfunctional.
     
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    WTF is a living document?
     
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    An illusion that idealists are hung up on. Not admitting that the constitution is just a piece of paper of which(depending on the time of day) is sometimes abided by and sometimes not. Just depends on whether there are more liberals or more conservatives on the supreme court.

    Not to mention Presidents have routinely violated it.

    One of the most egregious cases of a violation of the constitution was the election of Obama who by the constitutional requirements for the presidency was unquallified...but no one stepped in to support the constitution. Not even the supreme ct. A matter crying out for a decision by the Supreme Court...but they were too cowardly to address it....so they washed their hands of it and declared it is a political matter.
     
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    Yes, but the fact remains that if you make the system functional, then it'll be a better system.

    Now, how do you make democracy more functional?
     
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    I do not think it can be made more functional, as I said it is becoming increasingly dysfunctional and it will do so till it gets so bad we will be forced to deal with it in a manner a great many people will not like. The bottom line we are in a huge, huge mess. A mess that will not go away of its own accord. As pointed out prviously our demographics are working against us. There has never been a society or nation in the history of the world that has been successful when composed of so many disparate factions.

    This nation in a most foolish manner let itself go down a path of diversity and multiculturalism that will lead to our being relegated to the dustbin of history unless we manage to somehow get off that path and to do so now will require a revolutionary change in the way we govern ourselves..
     
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    Looka, no Obama fan, but how was he unqualified?
     
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