Is Terrorism the central plank of US led Invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq ?

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    It's easy for the Western 'viewing public' of ongoing Imperialist wars to presume that terrorism is predominantly the weapon of choice employed by the fanatical religious Jihadist; desperate, disenfranchised, and filled with a burning rage which negates their basic humanity. However, lets take a brief look at the belligerent activities of plundering western Capitalists.

    Take for example the invasion of Fallujah in November 04 by American, and their allied troops in the guise of ‘liberators’, bravely collapsing houses on the heads of Iraqi civilians as they huddled in their cellars. This after the city was bombarded with chemical weapons, melting the flesh from women and children, exposing their bones; causing agonising death. Exhilarated Allied troops shooting anything and everything that moved supported by fearless American helicopter gun-ships in the background.

    Here is a single incident of US terrorism among many. Dutifully carried out by American foot-soldiers on the front line, employed by the representatives of US predatory Imperialists at home in order to secure continued access to depleting oil reserves, and cynically paraded as some form of 'welcomed liberation' by corrupted politicians through privately controlled mass-media outlets.

    Britain also. Its desperate and flustered squads of soldiers rushing back and forth in the great expanses of Afghanistan, firing at shadows on the horizon with the best equipment sterling can afford. Except those shadows are often non-combatants. Helpless elderly figures that don’t know what’s just hit them as they lay in a pool of their own blood and curious children that raise their head at the wrong time, and lose it. When confronted by any significant resistance on the ground the intrepid Tommy darts off, calling in an aerial bombardment of settlements which are bound to contain civilians.

    Just as the suicide bomber in a martyr's vest is willing to mow down unsuspecting souls indiscriminately; in its failure to defeat their ostensibly identified foe, the Allied crusader armed forces employ the same recourse of ‘blanket destruction’: An arbitrary massacre of anything and anyone that is near to, and therefore "probably fraternising with, the enemy".

    Watch on 'YouTube' the Italian documentary, viewed over 48,500 times - Type:
    Fallujah The Hidden Message
    and also:
    American soldier I killed innocent people
    to hear a Fallujah veteran speak out.

    Classic Terrorism?
     
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    nah classic terrorisim....is cutting the head off a journalist and posting the video on you tube....

    no wait.....it is cuting the clitorus off a young girl.....

    no wait....burying a woman up to her neck and then stoning her for not wearing a veil....

    no wait....oh i give up ...we are after the heroin and oil....you caught us...
     
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    In fact, if you’d taken the time to view the videos cited, just such atrocities and on a far worse scale are being performed on the frontline by American soldiers, and financed by the U.S. tax-payer.

    While the brutality of stoning women could be construed as a form of patriarchal terrorism, the circumcision of young girls represents cultural backwardness. Female repression through ritualised abuse.
     
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    Civilians are not our targets they are casualties of war. Stop trying to label Americans as terrorists just because you sympathise with idiocy.
     
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    Your claim that civilians are not targets in US aggression is amply contradicted by the statements of veteran and serving US military personnel in the links I don't suppose you even bothered to view; contradicted in the footage of piled up partially incinerated civilians, of women still clutching their babies, immortalized in mutual agonies of death from chemical weapons that brave American boys despatched into their homes. Contradicted in the lost generation from record infant mortality rates due to U.S. championed Iraqi sanctions, and the mounting side effects of U.S. manufactured radiological and other illegal ordnance, deployed both in its attacks on populated zones in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as by its Israeli collaborators on Gazan civilians.

    How apt that you've taken upon yourself the appellation of 'mr president'. This best describes your ability to consciously blinker away from the true, cold, harsh consequences of American Terrorism.
     
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    HAHA do you write for the national enquirer. I wouldn't blink away from american terrorism if it were so. However, you are claiming nothing that was not happening before we arrived. The fact is that bombs do not discriminate. If the citizens do not evacuate they are subject to be casualties of war. Knowing this they should have left. American soldiers are not terrorist they are indeed warriors. That is why war is best left to those who know what they are talking about. Your name reveals much about you as well. Im sure you know quartermass means bizzare. Proving to me that you are an outcast looking for attention and affection. That is understood and I am here to teach you from this day on your name is Luke and you can call me Obi Wan Kenobi
     
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    ‘mr president’

    My previous comparison of you with your President was fitting in that you appear to share the infamous Bush disregard for Human life. Here you shamelessly dismiss the atrocities carried out by U.S. Terrorist soldiers on the front line with the glib excuses:
    “nothing that was not happening before we arrived”
    “If the citizens do not evacuate they are subject to be casualties of war”
    “war is best left to those who know what they are talking about”
    What a poor excuse for a human being you exemplify ‘mr president’. And what a sad reflection if this, your clearly debased and bankrupt ideology is somehow widespread in America.

    You are wrong about my name, and I doubt from your contributions that you have much to teach anyone.
     
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    Im no longer amused with you Bizzare please read more than magazines with nessy and sasquatch on the front.
     
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    The second paragraph is every bit as propagandistic as the satirical first paragraph. Should we be in Iraq? Of course not. Are an excessive number of civilians being killed? Yes. Should the military be more discriminate in who it targets? Yes. The US military, however, isn't the mass of sadistic, battle-frenzied, civilian-massacring monsters that you seem to think it is.
     
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    The frenzy of American soldiers in raging battles against an invisible enemy at Fallujah is no mythical construct. News footage shows troops tossing grenades in peoples houses on the off-chance resistance may lurk in the dark. Whole tower Blocks were collapsed because gunfire was seen to emerge from one of the floors. A whole city raised to the ground despite the fact many civilians remained to protect their property from looters, as would happen in any country, including the U.S.A.

    What does it take to transform a 'regular guy' into a baby killing uniformed Terrorist? Not much it seems.

    Take into account the frustration encountered by the soldier who cannot identify an enemy he or she has been trained to engage. Take into account also the opportunity given in such a circumstance to vent that frustration; to take vengeance for fallen comrades on shadows in windows and buildings in the background. The scene is set. The weapons are loaded. Leaflets have been dropped, so an excuse is at hand. And the top brass have given their blessing.

    The rest is history. Those shadows were perhaps frightened people hiding in the only safe refuge they know. Those buildings in the background perhaps a sanctuary for a family group. That tower block which was demolished by artillery barrage because a sniper may have been on one of the floors perhaps a 'solid protection' for many residents.

    The death toll speaks for itself.

    There is no doubt of the Terrorist nature of the Fallujah massacre. It was a very clear message from the very top level of U.S. administration delivered by willing American soldiers, to the whole civilian populations of Iraq and Afghanistan, saying 'if you allow the insurgent forces to dwell amongst you, you to will feel the full effects of our military prowess.'
     

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