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Discussion in 'Clean Debate Zone' started by Mac1958, Nov 27, 2018.

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    Yeah call us when one of them plows their car into some Trump supporters
     
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    So you believe that Michael Cohen just ponied up $130K of his own money in some sort of slush fund scandal?
     
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    Then I'll be on point on higher ground taking shots at both sides in the trenches. Fish in a barrel.
     
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    It's almost too easy. But the only way we really progress is if our wingers on each end are somehow marginalized. They're in the way, and they appear to be pretty proud of it.
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    Then we as a nation will continue to marginalize and steamroll over extremism. If extremists can't communicate their grievances in a cogent manner and must resort to hostility, violence and hate speech, then they will be extricated from the situation using said tools. No compromises. We used to have a reputation for not suffering fools. Nothing's really changed.
     
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    Of course Cohen didn't pony up his own money. He ponied up Trump's money , and you can donate however much of your own money to your own campaign as you would like, so no campaign finance violation.
     
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    Excellent point. Then you completely discredit yourself...
     
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    Are you saying, then, that we do not need to protect out borders, language, and culture? Or is this just another of your attacks?
     
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    It would seem that you have fallen into what I call "the tribalism trap". You seem to see things through a prism of us v. them, where "us" is those who see things your way, and "them" is anyone who disagrees. That's the problem right there. It's not an us v. them situation. We are ALL Americans. We have disagreements, but at the end of the day this country IS A WE. That is the point, I think, that Mac is making. The "we" in "we the people" has become so divided and tribal, that "we" cannot seem to even discuss things calmly and rationally. Forget about compromise, "we"(as a nation) need to sit down like a bunch of kindergarteners, and just try to get along for a bit first. The first thing YOU can do, is STOP POINTING THE FINGER AT "THEM". Whoever "them" is to you. It serves no purpose other than furthering the divide. Sure, call Schumer out on things. Great, he should be held to account for his actions. Stop looking at him as a adversary for a moment, though, and try to see if what he is doing is what he sees as best for the country. Maybe he is trying to be partisan, maybe he doesn't really want to work with Trump. Maybe, new information came to his attention, and he changed his mind.
     
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