Is Romny a real conservative?

[JakeStarkey]

Neither the left of center blot nor the libertarian trot or the far right reactionary rot are not what the GOP will accept. We are creating a right of center coalition with the independents and centrists to govern this country permanently. No more extremes.

 

[clevergirl]

Got it wrong, bright yes. We are GOP, you and me: all that remains, after Romney is elected, is to isolate the far right's influence in the Party, and that is happening now and will accelerate in January.

You got it wrong, Fakey. You have already proved yourself to be a poseur. Nobody buys your stupid routine.

And I am not a Republican either.

But unlike you, I am voting for the GOP candidate.

You will vote for the incumbent.

We all know it.

I don't think so. I think Starkey is doing libertarians and limited-government supporters a favor by making it clear just how they are being played. A Romney victory would do even more to advance the statist agenda than leaving Obama to flounder for another four years.

Cast a vote for real change. Don't waste it endorsing the status quo.

This is the thinking that will bring us down, not back up. 4 more years of Obama will have us in such a decline that coming back up will be near impossible-

Obama will not "flounder" in some theoretical vacuum. He will do so at the expense of our nation and her individual citizens. He is at this very time in history tying us to international treaties that will be impossible to break from. Bankrupting our future via unsustainable spending-

The trouble with ideological libertarians is that they see only domestically, as if this is still 1776-

 

[whitehall]

We know Romney is not a "real conservative" and maybe for that reason reasonable democrats will support him along with reasonable republicans.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Is Romny a real conservative?




Mittens isn't a "real" anything. He will say or do whatever it takes to please the audience or voters directly in front of him.

So, he's just like Obama.... and 99% of politicians. How very insightful you are.... not.

Great which in turn if you vote for either make you part of the problem, not the solution.

 

[elvis]

Is Romny a real conservative?




Mittens isn't a "real" anything. He will say or do whatever it takes to please the audience or voters directly in front of him.

So, he's just like Obama.... and 99% of politicians. How very insightful you are.... not.

Great which in turn if you vote for either make you part of the problem, not the solution.

maybe so, but if you vote for anyone else, you're wasting your time.

 

[elvis]

Great which in turn if you vote for either make you part of the problem, not the solution.

maybe so, but if you vote for anyone else, you're wasting your time.

Which is why I said is sad earlier in the thread. Its sad this is all we get and people are too lazy to change the situation. If you want to bicker about who would be better,then I think that's a waste of time. You are basically voting for the same person.

The guy I want can't and won't win.

 

[peach174]

Romney knows that Government does not create large enough numbers of jobs.
He knows that the private sector does, and Obama doesn't. Obama believes that Government can do it. They can't.

And yet you can't get around that government jobs has shrunk under obama...this meme you like to drag out has no weight behind it.

There is no need to lie in order to make a point about how bad obama is.

Lie?

Then where is his policies that would help businesses? Like getting rid of over bearing regulations, Roll backs on ridiculous expensive EPA rules, opening up oil, on government lands,giving back the oil permits in the gulf, making long term commitments for stability, instead of short term policies,balancing the budget with a plan to pay back our 16 trillion dollar debt.
Obama wants laws to create jobs, all that does, is for a small number. Private does it in large numbers.

 

[clevergirl]

I think not but the right will vote for him anyway.
Party first!

If he's not a "real conservative" then that means he's a liberal and you ought to love him...and vote for him...right? But you won't because YOU KNOW he's a conservative. He's not a libertarian it is true- but your beef is not his conservative or libertarian credentials- try being intellectually honest for a change~

He's a republican from Massachusetts for fucks sake. The most liberal state in the union. The idea he is conservative is laughable. This what makes you people such a joke. No sense of context just all blathering talking points to support your side.

What is laughable is that the fringe on both sides scream boogeyman~

 

[Dot Com]

he's a "severe"conservative.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Some liberals here are egging the far right and libertarians to throw their votes away on anybody but Romney in the name of 'integrity'?

How illiterate and immoral is that? Illiterate in that one does not know how our system works and Immoral in that somehow rejecting Romney is more immoral than re-electing Obama.

Elect Romney.

 

[Staidhup]

Romney is just another progressive compassionate conservative in the lines of the GHW Bush mold, adopted by the eastern conservative establishment out of fear for the mainstream media and message most conservatives outside the beltway believe in. The question for consideration, will four more years of the liberal progressive movement yield hope, opportunity, and address the financial dilemma we face, the answer to that question is clearly no, so its time to give someone else a chance to turn this mess around. One can only hope he can, regardless, it would be a dam site better then what we have witnessed over the past 40 months.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Staidhup wants Americans to vote Romney.

Thanks, guy. I know your are not immoral enough to vote for Obama yet illiterate enough to suggest throwing your vote away.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Romney a Conservative? A stint as the Governor of the state that's Ground Zero for anal fornication? The only thing you can say is Romney's not a Communist like the present occupant at 1600 is.

 

[JoeB131]

Romney knows that Government does not create large enough numbers of jobs.
He knows that the private sector does, and Obama doesn't. Obama believes that Government can do it. They can't.

Actually, as has been pointed out many time, the purpose of the private sector is to produce profits for investors, not jobs..

 

[clevergirl]

He's a republican from Massachusetts for fucks sake. The most liberal state in the union. The idea he is conservative is laughable. This what makes you people such a joke. No sense of context just all blathering talking points to support your side.

What is laughable is that the fringe on both sides scream boogeyman~

Well true, both obama and mittens are not boogeymen....

No they are not- One is a dedicated liberal the other is a conservative moderate.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Or a moderate conservative

 

[clevergirl]

Well true, both obama and mittens are not boogeymen....

No they are not- One is a dedicated liberal the other is a conservative moderate.

Lol oh god you are so ignorant its sad

Really? So Obama is not a dedicated liberal and Romney is not a moderate conservative?

Well let's here your certain to be genius articulation to the contrary?

 

[clevergirl]

Lol oh god you are so ignorant its sad

Really? So Obama is not a dedicated liberal and Romney is not a moderate conservative?

Well let's here your certain to be genius articulation to the contrary?

Sure ill get back to after work is over.

Some of the issues that support the notion Romney is a moderate conservative

• Taxes- reduce federal taxes
• Government- seeks to reduce the size of government
• Health care- Anti national health care- but believes it is a states’ right to create a healthcare system for its residents. He would support federal reforms to lower the cost of healthcare.
• Welfare-Supports federal safety nets
• Military- supports a robust military
• Gay marriage- against- but believes it is a states’ rights issue. For equal opportunities, but against changing DOMA
• Abortion- against- but believes it is a states’ rights issue.

 

[clevergirl]

Sure ill get back to after work is over.

Some of the issues that support the notion Romney is a moderate conservative

• Taxes- reduce federal taxes
• Government- seeks to reduce the size of government
• Health care- Anti national health care- but believes it is a states’ right to create a healthcare system for its residents. He would support federal reforms to lower the cost of healthcare.
• Welfare-Supports federal safety nets
• Military- supports a robust military
• Gay marriage- against- but believes it is a states’ rights issue. For equal opportunities, but against changing DOMA
• Abortion- against- but believes it is a states’ rights issue.

1) taxes...yes that would seem to be the case if you want to run these days. You must be for lowering taxes. Of course Obama hasnt really increased taxes has he? No he extended the Bush Tax cuts.
2) From a man who gave you a smaller version of the national healthcare bill. Right you keep on believing that meme. Again we can point to the fact that under Obama we have 500k jobs gone in the public sector, We have military budget cuts, but sadly not much in the way of other cuts that amount to much.
3)No he isn't anti- And is on record stating he would replace Obama's healthcare with his own version. You know Obamacare thats modeled after the one he made. At most he stated he would give the states waivers. Its amusing you think he would be any different in this area. Government really isnt the reason for high costs here in the states, but you keep on thinking that lie.
4) Yes they both do
5) yes, yes military, The rights sacred cow that no amount of money is enough. Thus what makes your argument worthless. The left wont cut entitlements and you wont cut the military, both of you are part of the problem.
6) its not a states issue, its a federal issue. the 14th covers that.Bigots need to be put down in there place, but Mittens is only playing you there. If it was publically wanted for gay rights he would be for it.
7) yes he was for it before he was against it...I have beach front property to sell you in Arizona if you believe that bullshit.

Most of these are simple wedge issues that won't see the light of day if mittens is elected. You morons fall for it everytime. DOMA will be removed and wont come back. DADT wont be coming back. So outside of wedge issues you will Have Mittens fall in line behind Clinton, Bush and Obama by caring out Wall Streets, bidding. He will be bought by special interest and lobbyists. ( which are same exact ones Obama was bought with)

You will have slight differences in policies, but an agreement in government power. The real power. Like NDAA and the Patriot act, but you will ignore the fact Mittens would have done the same as Obama because Gays being able to marry and abortion are more important to you.

Mittens is not a conservative, He is a conservative from Mass, which is basically a liberal anywhere else. Just like Scott Brown, who you morons championed as a tea party conservative, ended up being exactly what we all knew he was. A slightly right leaning liberal from Boston.

you've been played just like the left was played with Obama and this country is poorer for it.

LOL

You have failed to show in anyway that Romney is not a moderate conservative- if anything you have proven my point- though you did try really hard to make him a liberal.

He is not for national healthcare. His position on gay marriage is typical of a moderate conservative... He is for smaller government and lower taxes. He personally is against abortion. He believes in a robust military. He supports safety nets, but is opposed to expanding social welfare...

 

[dblack]

you've been played just like the left was played with Obama and this country is poorer for it.

That's pretty much the size of it. The corporatists ordain the 'viable' candidates and sheep slurp it up through a straw.