Is religious liberty an absolute right?

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    Seems to be what the politically motivated Rightwing believes, on this contraceptive issue.

    Anyone?
     
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    Yes. It is. Kinda what the country was founded on.
     
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    Of course not. There are no absolute rights. Rights exist only with the proviso that they not be exercised so as to infringe the rights of others.
     
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    Like all rights, free exercise of religious belief is limited by the essential rights of others. This is why it is not a violation of the First Amendment to ban practices like female genital mutilation, or to prosecute dangerous exorcisms.

    Aside from concerns about public safety and infringement upon other people's rights, yes. The rights protected by the US Constitution are, by definition, absolute.


    And no, no one is infringing on anyone's rights by refusing to buy them birth control. There is no right whatsoever to have birth control purchased for you by other people.
     
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    Omg, are you trying to compete with tm's thread on highschool level knowledge?

    The clown avatar fits perfectly.
     
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    The politically motivated left wing hacks (like the idiot author of the OP) seem to imagine that there is no issue or thing on which the commands of the Constitution might be absolute.

    We all know that there ARE some things which a person cannot do -- even for true reasons of religious faith. Like, if your religious belief says you must kill a Jew, fuck yourself. You are properly and validly denied that "right" by the government.

    On the other hand, there ARE some things which the GOVERNMENT may not do at all, on the ground that the First Amendment flatly and unequivocally DENIES them ANY authority to do so.

    Thus, the government is TOTALLY lacking in ANY authority (that means "none whatsoever," as in "absolute") to tell me what religion I may have or to deny me the ability to be a member of the religion I choose.

    That is pretty fucking absolute. In fact it is absolute. Period.

    I am quite sure this does away with SimplyAssholic's current disingenuous quibble.
     
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    When it comes to acting in ways contrary to the national mores like Peyote or polyandry, no. You don't have first amendment right to human sacrifice.


    However, the government can't compel you to go to a church you don't want to. Nor can they force you to do something fundamentally wrong. The government has no right to make Sunni Man eat that nice ham smothered in cheese sauce or give up his right to drive or vote or whatever.

    Nor does the government have the right to make him sell bacon and ribs at his grocery store even if he takes food stamps and his customers want it.
     
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    Is religious liberty an absolute right?

    Not if Obama gets reelected
     
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    What right does not providing birth control infringe on?

    BTW, I congratulate you on getting the question on the limits of rights correct.
     
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    Some people are quick to see the infringement on their rights. Sadly, they are less concerned when the rights of others are infringed.

    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.

    Pastor Martin Niemöller
     

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