Is Reality Beginning To Seep In Yet?

[AsheedMidrarwz]

Because all our other "dear leaders" won't allow it. They're all accountable, but we allow it to continue, because God Forbid it might effect ME.

Besides, if he REALLY wanted to cut defense, the Right would start screaming that he's "threatening our safety" to make political points.

9/11, as horrible as it was, was an abberation. A sucker punch, if you will. The TSA and all its associated spending was a gross overreaction. It could have been encompassed into the DOJ, and I'll wager it would have been done much more cheaply. Now you've got the "body scanners", which I'll bet are expensive. But will we see a benefit? Probably not.

But just let someone TRY to get rid of it. They will be labeled as conspiring with terrorists.

Anyone even SUGGESTING that SSA or Medicare be dealt with is always portrayed as "wanting to kill/harm Grandma".

The DOE? Biggest waste of money ever. It encourages passing kids along who shouldn't be. No Child Left Behind? When I was a kid, being "left back" had SUCH a stigma that no kid or parent allowed it to happen. Now a lot of people view their kid's school as state-sponsored day care.

"But it's for the CHILDREN ..............", people would scream.

I stopped at this....."Because all our other "dear leaders" won't allow it."

Now tell me what Obama was going to cut and tell me the name of the person or persons who stopped it.

You stopped reading because you have an irrational hatred of Barack Obama. Everything is "his" fault. When specific options were laid out to you by me, and the rationale for their continued existance was presented to you, you covered your ears and closed your eyes. Because you couldn't pin it on your arch-enemy.

Why do you THINK he doesn't want to cut defense? The Homeland Security Department?

Tried to explain it to you. The far right will paint him as "soft".

He doesn't seem interested with getting Medicare payouts under control. And the doctors say they'll stop taking Medicare patients. So he'll get labeled as a "Grandma Killer".

Tell us what Obama was prevented from cutting and who stopped him.

 

[JKVegas]

I stopped at this....."Because all our other "dear leaders" won't allow it."

Now tell me what Obama was going to cut and tell me the name of the person or persons who stopped it.

You stopped reading because you have an irrational hatred of Barack Obama. Everything is "his" fault. When specific options were laid out to you by me, and the rationale for their continued existance was presented to you, you covered your ears and closed your eyes. Because you couldn't pin it on your arch-enemy.

Why do you THINK he doesn't want to cut defense? The Homeland Security Department?

Tried to explain it to you. The far right will paint him as "soft".

He doesn't seem interested with getting Medicare payouts under control. And the doctors say they'll stop taking Medicare patients. So he'll get labeled as a "Grandma Killer".

Tell us what Obama was prevented from cutting and who stopped him.

Re-read the post. Perhaps the edit I put in hadn't made it there yet.

He WANTED to cut re-imbursements to Medicare providers. It was shot down. Part of ObamaCare (which is a bribe to the insurers, and that's ALL it is) deals with this. The $716 million thing, which is portrayed by the right as "cutting Medicare".

Sure, it is. It cuts re-imburesments for care, not care itself. Doctors threaten to stop taking the patients. Love to see where exactly they are going to make up the lost business, since the government pays half the doctor bills in this country right now, and that will only get bigger.

There you go. The Right hates ObamaCare, and as far as I'm concerned, for good reason. The problem with it is that it doesn't go far enough.

We need nationalized, single-payer catastrophic care, or we will all go bankrupt trying to stay healthy, so that a very few can continue getting richer and richer.

 

[AsheedMidrarwz]

You stopped reading because you have an irrational hatred of Barack Obama. Everything is "his" fault. When specific options were laid out to you by me, and the rationale for their continued existance was presented to you, you covered your ears and closed your eyes. Because you couldn't pin it on your arch-enemy.

Why do you THINK he doesn't want to cut defense? The Homeland Security Department?

Tried to explain it to you. The far right will paint him as "soft".

He doesn't seem interested with getting Medicare payouts under control. And the doctors say they'll stop taking Medicare patients. So he'll get labeled as a "Grandma Killer".

Tell us what Obama was prevented from cutting and who stopped him.

Re-read the post. Perhaps the edit I put in hadn't made it there yet.

He WANTED to cut re-imbursements to Medicare providers. It was shot down. Part of ObamaCare (which is a bribe to the insurers, and that's ALL it is) deals with this. The $716 million thing, which is portrayed by the right as "cutting Medicare".

Sure, it is. It cuts re-imburesments for care, not care itself. Doctors threaten to stop taking the patients. Love to see where exactly they are going to make up the lost business, since the government pays half the doctor bills in this country right now, and that will only get bigger.

There you go. The Right hates ObamaCare, and as far as I'm concerned, for good reason. The problem with it is that it doesn't go far enough.

We need nationalized, single-payer catastrophic care, or we will all go bankrupt trying to stay healthy, so that a very few can continue getting richer and richer.

Obama is the one who took over 700 billion out of Medicare to pay for Obamatax.

 

[Koios]

Anyone who has looked at their pay stub was in for a rude awakening this week.

A remarkable amount of money was taken out thanks to Obama. The payroll tax holiday expired and Democrats and Republicans alike saw their taxes go up. Trust me, this is just the beginning folks. The rich are gonna be fine. It's you and me Obama has been after all along.

I told you dumb-asses about this months ago but you wouldn't listen. Now deal with it.

What's worse is this just the tip of the iceberg.

If 2% of your gross pay is a remarkable amount, fear not. Hell I don't. And I look forward to about August or Sept when it goes away, for me.

Plus, there's an upside, since paying into SS ups the size of your SS checks come retirement. It ain't a windfall for we folks who max out every year, but more is better than less when you're retired. So it ain't all pain; merely delayed gratification.

 

[uscitizen]

Right wingers do not understand the temporary thing.
A function of that right wing brain thing.

I understand Obama promised to cut the deficit in half and promised us he would not raise taxes on the middle class. I also understand he's a liar.

And bush was against the USA being the police force of the world, Nation building, larger government, more spending, etc.
You did not understand that then.

Just a simple partisan hack.

Yes Obama is a liar and so was Bush.
I refer to Obama as Bush III.

 

[JKVegas]

Anyone who has looked at their pay stub was in for a rude awakening this week.

A remarkable amount of money was taken out thanks to Obama. The payroll tax holiday expired and Democrats and Republicans alike saw their taxes go up. Trust me, this is just the beginning folks. The rich are gonna be fine. It's you and me Obama has been after all along.

I told you dumb-asses about this months ago but you wouldn't listen. Now deal with it.

What's worse is this just the tip of the iceberg.

If 2% of your gross pay is a remarkable amount, fear not. Hell I don't. And I look forward to about August or Sept when it goes away, for me.

Plus, there's an upside, since paying into SS ups the size of your SS checks come retirement. It ain't a windfall for we folks who max out every year, but more is better than less when you're retired. So it ain't all pain; merely delayed gratification.

Isn't this irrational hatred of the President funny?

Then why didn't the right's leadership step in and stop it?

Obama must have vampire-like powers of persuasion that I am unaware of.

Perhaps you could scale back your internet usage, or your smart phone plan, or your cable package, to make up for the lost income. Get a cheaper phone. Only jobs of any consequence that will effect are in China. Shut off the HBO and Showtime. Most of that is automated anyway, so you'll just be putting a machine out of work.

People whine about the price of gas, then whip out a $200 smart phone so they can tell all their imaginary Facebook "friends" about it.

Dumbness personified.

It'll cost us about 30 every two weeks. Oh, MURder. Both cars are paid off. The remaining credit card has about a year until closure.

We'll be fine.

 

[AquaAthena]

Anyone who has looked at their pay stub was in for a rude awakening this week.

A remarkable amount of money was taken out thanks to Obama. The payroll tax holiday expired and Democrats and Republicans alike saw their taxes go up. Trust me, this is just the beginning folks. The rich are gonna be fine. It's you and me Obama has been after all along.

I told you dumb-asses about this months ago but you wouldn't listen. Now deal with it.

What's worse is this just the tip of the iceberg.

And the only ones deserving of the increase, are the voters, who deserve him.

 

[mudwhistle]

Anyone who has looked at their pay stub was in for a rude awakening this week.

A remarkable amount of money was taken out thanks to Obama. The payroll tax holiday expired and Democrats and Republicans alike saw their taxes go up. Trust me, this is just the beginning folks. The rich are gonna be fine. It's you and me Obama has been after all along.

I told you dumb-asses about this months ago but you wouldn't listen. Now deal with it.

What's worse is this just the tip of the iceberg.

If 2% of your gross pay is a remarkable amount, fear not. Hell I don't. And I look forward to about August or Sept when it goes away, for me.

Plus, there's an upside, since paying into SS ups the size of your SS checks come retirement. It ain't a windfall for we folks who max out every year, but more is better than less when you're retired. So it ain't all pain; merely delayed gratification.

Since Obama doesn't plan on fixing SS you'll never receive a penny of it.

So 2% was taken out....non-refundable. It goes straight to the politicians and they'll do with it what they will. This is all part of the fiscal cliff agreement.

Then when Obamacare tacks on another 3.8% you'll feel the pinch even more. Whatever was taken out this time.....double it and you'll know your new Obamatax.

 

[Intense]

What about spending cuts that could have accomplished exactly the same infintesimal dent in the budget, but were shelved by legislators across the board? For another two months?

What about THAT?

Oh, the haters and their small minds.

Wouldn't have had to raise ANYONE'S taxes. Just start cutting. But when it affected YOU, you would have screamed bloody murder.

You want it BOTH ways. Can't help you there.

I seriously doubt that you are in a position to help anybody.

 

[Intense]

Anyone who has looked at their pay stub was in for a rude awakening this week.

A remarkable amount of money was taken out thanks to Obama. The payroll tax holiday expired and Democrats and Republicans alike saw their taxes go up. Trust me, this is just the beginning folks. The rich are gonna be fine. It's you and me Obama has been after all along.

I told you dumb-asses about this months ago but you wouldn't listen. Now deal with it.

What's worse is this just the tip of the iceberg.

And the only ones deserving of the increase, are the voters, who deserve him.

Rats on a sinking ship.

 

[beagle9]

Anyone who has looked at their pay stub was in for a rude awakening this week.

A remarkable amount of money was taken out thanks to Obama. The payroll tax holiday expired and Democrats and Republicans alike saw their taxes go up. Trust me, this is just the beginning folks. The rich are gonna be fine. It's you and me Obama has been after all along.

I told you dumb-asses about this months ago but you wouldn't listen. Now deal with it.

What's worse is this just the tip of the iceberg.

I know my taxes are way to high in which are coming out of my paycheck now, and I am on the lower pay scales of society.. I am in the south, so you know what the pay scales are in these areas, and then we have so much coming out now in taxes as far as our incomes, it is just ridiculous.

$181.00 in withholdings, and $50.00 or more dollars in deductions leaves just enough to get by on, and hardly no disposable income.. So much for consumerism eh? I hope all the corporations and private industries are satisfied that Obama is in the office again, and so I say good luck to them while they are waiting for American consumers to visit their businesses, because they won't be coming no time soon.

I have been a very good consumer and stable citizen in this nation for years (all my life), but it is getting harder and harder to be this way, and this as we all see it slipping away now.

 

[beagle9]

Yep! Just wait for obamacare. It is gonna suck to have to pay them 10,000 deductables every year

I already have been on the ten thousand dollar deductible, so where have you been ?

 

[daveman]

What does any of that blather have to do with anything I said?

Cut spending. Then no need to raise taxes.

Why don't ANY of them do that?

Try answering the question.

Disband the Department of Education. Does it actually do ANYTHING? Homeland Security? We needed an entire cabinet department to do better screening? Cut Defense by 10%. We really need air bases in South Korea, Germany and, hell, while we're at it, Las Vegas?

They can close Nellis anytime they like. There'd be a slight hiccup, nothing more. There was a time when it was a major contrbutor to the local economy, but that's long since past. I really doubt the country would be less safe. They could train pilots somewhere else.

Y'know, you should probably just stop posting.

Nellis Air Force Base - FAQ Topic

Total EIA Estimate (Nellis, Creech & NTTR)

Annual Payroll: $1,158,335,948.43
Retiree Payroll: $646,932,000.00
Annual Expenditures: $3,000160,250.50
Annual Dollar Value of Jobs Created: $265,665,540.00
Aviation Nation 2010 - Open House Economic Impact: $18,400,000.00

Total Annual Economic Impact: $5,089,494,138.93​

Five billion dollars isn't nothing.

 

[daveman]

Right wingers do not understand the temporary thing.
A function of that right wing brain thing.

I understand Obama promised to cut the deficit in half and promised us he would not raise taxes on the middle class. I also understand he's a liar.

And bush was against the USA being the police force of the world, Nation building, larger government, more spending, etc.
You did not understand that then.

Just a simple partisan hack.

Yes Obama is a liar and so was Bush.
I refer to Obama as Bush III.

Yet you voted for him last year. And if he could run for a third term, you'd vote for him again.

Guaranteed.

 

[AsheedMidrarwz]

Right wingers do not understand the temporary thing.
A function of that right wing brain thing.

I understand Obama promised to cut the deficit in half and promised us he would not raise taxes on the middle class. I also understand he's a liar.

And bush was against the USA being the police force of the world, Nation building, larger government, more spending, etc.
You did not understand that then.

Just a simple partisan hack.

Yes Obama is a liar and so was Bush.
I refer to Obama as Bush III.

I understand we were attacked, which changed everything. I agree, Obama is a liar. I understand that the left continually lies and obfuscates the truth. I also understand Obama is ruining this nation on purpose. Bush never had that intention.

 

[Katzndogz]

If you are taxed so much that you cannot provide for yourself and your family, the government will give you benefits to make up for your losses.

 

[Ravi]

The sour grapes continue.

 

[saveliberty]

So far all we did was put more water in a leaking bucket. Next Obama wants a bigger bucket with bigger holes. Guess what he wants after that?

 

[AsheedMidrarwz]

There is never an end with a socialist. They are never satisfied until the state has total control.

 

[Koios]

Anyone who has looked at their pay stub was in for a rude awakening this week.

A remarkable amount of money was taken out thanks to Obama. The payroll tax holiday expired and Democrats and Republicans alike saw their taxes go up. Trust me, this is just the beginning folks. The rich are gonna be fine. It's you and me Obama has been after all along.

I told you dumb-asses about this months ago but you wouldn't listen. Now deal with it.

What's worse is this just the tip of the iceberg.

If 2% of your gross pay is a remarkable amount, fear not. Hell I don't. And I look forward to about August or Sept when it goes away, for me.

Plus, there's an upside, since paying into SS ups the size of your SS checks come retirement. It ain't a windfall for we folks who max out every year, but more is better than less when you're retired. So it ain't all pain; merely delayed gratification.

Since Obama doesn't plan on fixing SS you'll never receive a penny of it.

So 2% was taken out....non-refundable. It goes straight to the politicians and they'll do with it what they will. This is all part of the fiscal cliff agreement.

Then when Obamacare tacks on another 3.8% you'll feel the pinch even more. Whatever was taken out this time.....double it and you'll know your new Obamatax.

Nah; I will get checks, and am sure of it. You see, Mud, when them wacko lefties, Reagan and Dave Stockman, who turned SS into a general fund item (full faith and credit of the US of A, not a trust fund, really.), assured me I'd be okie doke, bygod, I believed 'em!! The thing is, I ate it up, since I'm drinking the Duke/Davy Koolaid and am all retarded and shit, as all we lefty Reaganistas are, praise babyjesus and Nancy's palm-reader!!!!

Can you imagine. How fucking stupid are we to think old Ronny woulda never fibbed to us???