Is racism on the rise?

[RightNorLeft]

Obama didnt win twice because hes black thats a given. He shouldve never won if racism was still so strong in the USA that it could overide the rich and corporatists in this countries assault on everyone that works for a living and on down.
I dont believe Obama won because theres less whites then there was...I believe he won because the teaparty far right scared the living shit out of Govt and public workers and working people around the country that were inclined to vote republican and seniors that had been republican voters and turned and voted for Obama.
Obama won because working middleclass america disliked the teaparty far right agenda more.

Why did whites and the middle class then vote against Obama? Was it their fear of the left-wing agenda?

Theres alot of issues people vote on, of course racism played. Many people dont care if its a D or an R after the persons name, dont care if they are male female black white or blue. They vote on a single issue and thats it and whoever they think will give them what they want is who they vote for.
There are those that dislike obamas agenda hugely, but it could be said more like it since he won twice, right ?

 

[Meathead]

Obama didnt win twice because hes black thats a given. He shouldve never won if racism was still so strong in the USA that it could overide the rich and corporatists in this countries assault on everyone that works for a living and on down.
I dont believe Obama won because theres less whites then there was...I believe he won because the teaparty far right scared the living shit out of Govt and public workers and working people around the country that were inclined to vote republican and seniors that had been republican voters and turned and voted for Obama.
Obama won because working middleclass america disliked the teaparty far right agenda more.

Why did whites and the middle class then vote against Obama? Was it their fear of the left-wing agenda?

Theres alot of issues people vote on, of course racism played. Many people dont care if its a D or an R after the persons name, dont care if they are male female black white or blue. They vote on a single issue and thats it and whoever they think will give them what they want is who they vote for.
There are those that dislike obamas agenda hugely, but it could be said more like it since he won twice, right ?

I suggest you go through the dialogue and see if you can find an obvious contradiction. We are not children, after all. Seniors, the middle class and Republicans did not vote for Obama. Obama was voted in by a very slim margin (especially for an incumbent) by establishing huge majorities in inner cities and welfare-dependent minorities and liberal whites.

I doubt they would be rallied by a white moderate candidate.

 

[Foxfyre]

Obama didnt win twice because hes black thats a given. He shouldve never won if racism was still so strong in the USA that it could overide the rich and corporatists in this countries assault on everyone that works for a living and on down.
I dont believe Obama won because theres less whites then there was...I believe he won because the teaparty far right scared the living shit out of Govt and public workers and working people around the country that were inclined to vote republican and seniors that had been republican voters and turned and voted for Obama.
Obama won because working middleclass america disliked the teaparty far right agenda more.

Why did whites and the middle class then vote against Obama? Was it their fear of the left-wing agenda?

Theres alot of issues people vote on, of course racism played. Many people dont care if its a D or an R after the persons name, dont care if they are male female black white or blue. They vote on a single issue and thats it and whoever they think will give them what they want is who they vote for.
There are those that dislike obamas agenda hugely, but it could be said more like it since he won twice, right ?

It could be said, but if you look at all the polling data all during the long months of the campaign, the majority of likely voters did NOT like his agenda. So we are left with two options. Did they not like Romney's agenda more? There is absolutely no evidence of that.

So we have to conclude that they were voting their pocketbook. They may be staunch conservative rightwingers at heart, but they were not willing to give up or even risk whatever government freebies or benefits or opportunities they are getting just to elect a better person. Do you honestly think he would have received as many votes if they had been told he would allow social security taxes to go back to their current level?

 

[Dot Com]

Obama didnt win twice because hes black thats a given. He shouldve never won if racism was still so strong in the USA that it could overide the rich and corporatists in this countries assault on everyone that works for a living and on down.
I dont believe Obama won because theres less whites then there was...I believe he won because the teaparty far right scared the living shit out of Govt and public workers and working people around the country that were inclined to vote republican and seniors that had been republican voters and turned and voted for Obama.
Obama won because working middleclass america disliked the teaparty far right agenda more.

The Tea Party wasn't even on the radar during trhe last months of the campaign. Romney was certainly no Tea Party darling and did not rise to political prominance as a Tea Party candidate.

Obama won because, unlike Romney, he was not proposing rolling back any spending that might cost more than 50% of the population a bit in their pocket books, and the left was successful in painting Romney as an out-of-touch clueless rich guy.

That's it in a nutshell.

In the end, promotion of racism and class envy works in many sub cultures in our population, and the unwillingness to give up a single freebie for the good of the country takes care of enough of the rest.

And. . just to stay on topic. . . .mixed in there somewhere is the fact that Obama is black. It is fashionable to vote for somebody who is black to prove how un-racist you are. And there is no way that I believe that more than 90% of black Americans voted for Obama because they shared his point of view or even know what it is.

We still aren't allowed, by some, to see black people as just people like all other people. We are required, by some, to always be conscious that they are black.

you're missing about 2-3 links to back up all those allegations you made.

 

[Foxfyre]

Obama didnt win twice because hes black thats a given. He shouldve never won if racism was still so strong in the USA that it could overide the rich and corporatists in this countries assault on everyone that works for a living and on down.
I dont believe Obama won because theres less whites then there was...I believe he won because the teaparty far right scared the living shit out of Govt and public workers and working people around the country that were inclined to vote republican and seniors that had been republican voters and turned and voted for Obama.
Obama won because working middleclass america disliked the teaparty far right agenda more.

The Tea Party wasn't even on the radar during trhe last months of the campaign. Romney was certainly no Tea Party darling and did not rise to political prominance as a Tea Party candidate.

Obama won because, unlike Romney, he was not proposing rolling back any spending that might cost more than 50% of the population a bit in their pocket books, and the left was successful in painting Romney as an out-of-touch clueless rich guy.

That's it in a nutshell.

In the end, promotion of racism and class envy works in many sub cultures in our population, and the unwillingness to give up a single freebie for the good of the country takes care of enough of the rest.

And. . just to stay on topic. . . .mixed in there somewhere is the fact that Obama is black. It is fashionable to vote for somebody who is black to prove how un-racist you are. And there is no way that I believe that more than 90% of black Americans voted for Obama because they shared his point of view or even know what it is.

We still aren't allowed, by some, to see black people as just people like all other people. We are required, by some, to always be conscious that they are black.

you're missing about 2-3 links to back up all those allegations you made.

That's right. I am. A lot more than 2 or 3 in fact. Because I am expressing what I believe to be my informed opinion. You are more than welcome to provide whatever links you can find that disputes my opinion, however. Or make your own argument if you think it is better.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If you are referring to the type that justify their bigotry with their bible thumping, and then after shooting innocent people say "God told me to do it", there should absolutely be an all out assault on wackos like them.

I think he was referring to your bigotry and mindless racism.

Hate filled leftist seeking "revenge" against whites for torts they do not know or grasp. Mainly, you're simply stupid. Because you are stupid, you're easily manipulated. Lacking much intellectual capacity, you're driving by emotion. Those who manipulate you inflame your hatred with daily rants on MSNBC and the leftist hate sites like ThinkProgress. Soon you are another rage filled Obamabot, spewing your racism and ignorance here - for all to see.

 

[Truthmatters]

Seems that instead of it lessening, its getting stronger. I thought Obama being the first black (half black) president would be encouragement for the races to "settle in" and it not be as bad. And although I know its still rampant in this country, it seemed to be lightening up a smidge and folks were more tolerant...or trying to be, anyway. But to me, since Obama got in office, it is rising to higher pitch.
Or is it just me?

Its because the closet racists are outing themselves without even realising they are outing themselves

 

[Katzndogz]

If obama had been a decent president, even if he was a decent man, a decent human being, it would be different. Instead obama is the very dregs of what humanity can offer up and uses skin color to make excuses.

 

[katsteve2012]

If you are referring to the type that justify their bigotry with their bible thumping, and then after shooting innocent people say "God told me to do it", there should absolutely be an all out assault on wackos like them.

I think he was referring to your bigotry and mindless racism.

Hate filled leftist seeking "revenge" against whites for torts they do not know or grasp. Mainly, you're simply stupid. Because you are stupid, you're easily manipulated. Lacking much intellectual capacity, you're driving by emotion. Those who manipulate you inflame your hatred with daily rants on MSNBC and the leftist hate sites like ThinkProgress. Soon you are another rage filled Obamabot, spewing your racism and ignorance here - f
or all to see.

"All whites" are not bible thumping, gun slinging nut jobs, you whiny imbecile.

 

[Uncensored2008]

"All whites" are not bible thumping, gun slinging nut jobs, you whiny imbecile.

Are there any white people you don't hate?

I can wait while you check with Rachel Maddow to find out what you think.

 

[Foxfyre]

If obama had been a decent president, even if he was a decent man, a decent human being, it would be different. Instead obama is the very dregs of what humanity can offer up and uses skin color to make excuses.

Actually I have no reason to think Obama isn't a decent human being. His perspective and point of view is not much different than many people I personally know who think like he does, but who I know are decent human beings.

Do I think he has been a great President? No, I don't, and one reason is that I think he has pushed the nanny state, promotion of racism, and class warfare over the brink and now we may never be able to reverse that. I think history may show his administration as the tipping point in which the majority of the people finally abandoned the vision of the Founders and we will never again be a people free to govern themselves.

 

[AsheedMidrarwz]

Obama is a liar and a race hustler. He has done nothing in his life to earn the Presidency. He fits the media profile that many Americans are indoctrinated to accept.

 

[AsheedMidrarwz]

Obama is my man. why are you dissing him? Are you afraid of the coming rise of the blacks?

"Coming rise of blacks". Got a real live racist here, folks.

 

[Foxfyre]

I think you are right on. Obama wants racial tensions and divisions. Why else would he completely ignore hate crimes by blacks against whites yet be right up on the soap box with the the infamous race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson over the Trayvon Martin issue? I did not see anything done about the new black panthers polling place intimidation or when they openly called for Kill A cracker for Trayvon day. I guess the planned beatings of innocent whites at the Wisconsin state fair are not racially motivated hate crimes either? Obama is a racist period end of story. Ask his former"pastor" or do you think that fool is not a racist? To accurately answer the thread starter. Hell yes racism is worse now than ever. Black on white crimes and flash mob attacks on whites are more and more common every day. But you will never ever hear Obama say anything perpetrated by a black against a YT is a hate crime. This country is completely fucked!

But there are many forms of rascism. There is the racism that exalts the black man or another race so that the racist can feel noble and righteous. There is the racism that would subjugate a certain race or ethnic group and force them into a certain class or role in society. There is racism that comes from deep prejudice and literally triggers hatred in the racist.

Obama's racism is the kind that capitalizes on racism for personal advantage. By keeping a minority group dependent, angry, convinced it is disadvantaged and victimized and cannot succeed without "Whitey's" (i.e. government) help, a large voting bloc is guaranteed. Such group also provides a justification for expansion of big government, socialist/Marxist concepts, and job security for the racists in power.

 

[Huey]

I think consciousness of race as anything other than an obvious physical characteristic is learned behavior. If it was inate or something people were born with, young children would segregate themselves into groups by racial characteristics. They don't. Not before they are taught to do so.

Young children have to be taught virtually everything, from looking both ways before crossing a street to how to tie their shoes to avoiding dangerous animals, so if they are not taught to keep to their own kind by their parents, there will be others who will step in and tell them that race means nothing and we should all mix and create a world of kumbaya singing idiots who will pollute the whole human race with mongrelized blood lines. The white race is the race that has been in the vanguard of all human progress, and when it is mongrelized out of existence, there will be no more goose that lays the golden egg of progress.

Oh so you say that taking lil white children dressed in those clown outfits you wear watching another human being being lynched is good education.You lay eggs alright but they are not made of gold,in fact they smell like hell,poor kids dont know where to turn when you say the friend they made in kindergarten is no good because of the color of his skin.

 

[Michelle420]

I think you are right on. Obama wants racial tensions and divisions. Why else would he completely ignore hate crimes by blacks against whites yet be right up on the soap box with the the infamous race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson over the Trayvon Martin issue? I did not see anything done about the new black panthers polling place intimidation or when they openly called for Kill A cracker for Trayvon day. I guess the planned beatings of innocent whites at the Wisconsin state fair are not racially motivated hate crimes either? Obama is a racist period end of story. Ask his former"pastor" or do you think that fool is not a racist? To accurately answer the thread starter. Hell yes racism is worse now than ever. Black on white crimes and flash mob attacks on whites are more and more common every day. But you will never ever hear Obama say anything perpetrated by a black against a YT is a hate crime. This country is completely fucked!

But there are many forms of rascism. There is the racism that exalts the black man or another race so that the racist can feel noble and righteous. There is the racism that would subjugate a certain race or ethnic group and force them into a certain class or role in society. There is racism that comes from deep prejudice and literally triggers hatred in the racist.

Obama's racism is the kind that capitalizes on racism for personal advantage. By keeping a minority group dependent, angry, convinced it is disadvantaged and victimized and cannot succeed without "Whitey's" (i.e. government) help, a large voting bloc is guaranteed. Such group also provides a justification for expansion of big government, socialist/Marxist concepts, and job security for the racists in power.

I don't think that it has anything to do with race, Obama is white and black.

He does lean toward social programs and if you were to build an argument of him leaning towards socialism and big government that would probably be more accurate then race.

 

[Huey]

I think you are right on. Obama wants racial tensions and divisions. Why else would he completely ignore hate crimes by blacks against whites yet be right up on the soap box with the the infamous race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson over the Trayvon Martin issue? I did not see anything done about the new black panthers polling place intimidation or when they openly called for Kill A cracker for Trayvon day. I guess the planned beatings of innocent whites at the Wisconsin state fair are not racially motivated hate crimes either? Obama is a racist period end of story. Ask his former"pastor" or do you think that fool is not a racist? To accurately answer the thread starter. Hell yes racism is worse now than ever. Black on white crimes and flash mob attacks on whites are more and more common every day. But you will never ever hear Obama say anything perpetrated by a black against a YT is a hate crime. This country is completely fucked!

But there are many forms of rascism. There is the racism that exalts the black man or another race so that the racist can feel noble and righteous. There is the racism that would subjugate a certain race or ethnic group and force them into a certain class or role in society. There is racism that comes from deep prejudice and literally triggers hatred in the racist.

Obama's racism is the kind that capitalizes on racism for personal advantage. By keeping a minority group dependent, angry, convinced it is disadvantaged and victimized and cannot succeed without "Whitey's" (i.e. government) help, a large voting bloc is guaranteed. Such group also provides a justification for expansion of big government, socialist/Marxist concepts, and job security for the racists in power.

Black people dont care about the Black pansy's,or what they say.The president is working for all the people,not just whites.He's not racist,but you are. You have never heard him say anything racist about anyone. I bet you said the same thing against "lil boosh".

 

[AsheedMidrarwz]

I think you are right on. Obama wants racial tensions and divisions. Why else would he completely ignore hate crimes by blacks against whites yet be right up on the soap box with the the infamous race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson over the Trayvon Martin issue? I did not see anything done about the new black panthers polling place intimidation or when they openly called for Kill A cracker for Trayvon day. I guess the planned beatings of innocent whites at the Wisconsin state fair are not racially motivated hate crimes either? Obama is a racist period end of story. Ask his former"pastor" or do you think that fool is not a racist? To accurately answer the thread starter. Hell yes racism is worse now than ever. Black on white crimes and flash mob attacks on whites are more and more common every day. But you will never ever hear Obama say anything perpetrated by a black against a YT is a hate crime. This country is completely fucked!

But there are many forms of rascism. There is the racism that exalts the black man or another race so that the racist can feel noble and righteous. There is the racism that would subjugate a certain race or ethnic group and force them into a certain class or role in society. There is racism that comes from deep prejudice and literally triggers hatred in the racist.

Obama's racism is the kind that capitalizes on racism for personal advantage. By keeping a minority group dependent, angry, convinced it is disadvantaged and victimized and cannot succeed without "Whitey's" (i.e. government) help, a large voting bloc is guaranteed. Such group also provides a justification for expansion of big government, socialist/Marxist concepts, and job security for the racists in power.

Black people dont care about the Black pansy's,or what they say.The president is working for all the people,not just whites.He's not racist,but you are. You have never heard him say anything racist about anyone. I bet you said the same thing against "lil boosh".

The President is working for his agenda and the color of people have nothing to do with it. He is also a racist because he uses race for political benefit.