Is Porn A Religious Issue?

[AllieBaba]

Everything is a religious issue.

And yes, Pornography is a plague. It's inherently a lie, a deception. One that is powerfully more addictive than many drugs. It provides the mind with unrealistic expectations of what relationships are and should be. not to mention the exploitation that is involved with it.

Look at the superbowl comercials this weekend. Businesses are paying millions of dollars for 30 Seconds of advertisement because they have research showing that an advertisement that short will make you more inclined to purchase their product. If 30 seconds is enough to influence your purchase/consumption habits, do you honestly think that hours upon hours of pornography, not to mention other things in our media, won't?

What is amazing to me is the time and devotion posters devote to this topic, while never, ever addressing the violations of human rights that go hand in hand with porn.

Porn feeds the slave trade (and yes the salve trade is alive and thriving; thanks for continuing to ignore it's existence as you ponder whether porn is a legal or religious issue, and lisp around about how "porn doesn't debase people, people debase people!"). It also promotes child sex abuse and provides a lucrative market for the vicimtization of children and adults.

I'm calling bullshit here, Allie. I dun doubt there are videos and such made of slaves, but on the whole I think porn actors are free agents.

Er..yeah.
Thank you for verifying you know nothing of the porn industry or human rights issues in one spectacular post.

You rock.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Porn stars are making more money than all of us combined, I would hardly call them slaves.

O, I have no doubt some actors have been enslaved or coerced, High Gravity, especially for the more violent stuff. I just don't think it's common.

Actually, this isn't a new problem. The Victorians had skin pics, as well as stereoscopic viewers so they could see them in 3D.

Know what happened with the invention of film? That's right........many directors who made mainstream movies (Chaplin, etc.), would also moonlight as porno directors, and this was back in the 30's. (Saw it on a documentary called "History of Porn").

It wasn't until the late 60's, early 70's that some porn directors started going after underage girls, probably because of the high incidence of runaway teens back then, but, considering the uproar that went up over that in the 80's and 90's, the porno industry got much more regulated. Since those bad old days, porn stars are REQUIRED to show age and that is REQUIRED to be on file back at the main office. Are they "slaves"? Nope, not any more. Matter of fact, Jenna Jamison is one of those actresses that decided to start her own company, and is she ever making bank.

As far as porn being addictive? Yes, it can be, but so can food, gambling, shopping, codependent relationships, as well as many other things. The object itself (food, shopping, etc) isn't necessarily the cause of the addiction, it's a combination of things (low self esteem, poor self image, etc) that a person doesn't like feeling, so they wrap themselves up in something that they think will help to ease the pain. Same could be said of alcoholics incidentally............when I became a DAPA for the Navy (Drug and Alcohol Program Adviser) one of the things that I learned is that alcohol wasn't so much the problem, as it was a coping mechanism for the person suffering from it. Same could be applied to any form of addictive behavior.

As far as porn being "bad"? Well.........there's a book called the Kama Sutra (which is really graphic), that has been in existence for thousands of years. If God didn't allow stuff like that in this world, do you really think it would have continued to exist for so long?

Besides...........weren't we told to "Be fruitful and multiply"?

Nope, the only things that I really consider "sin" is what is referred to in the 7 Noahide Commandments or what is referred to in the 10 Commandments. No mention of porno was there at all.

And no.........masturbating while watching porn isn't adultery. Adultery is going after someone who is already attached (i.e. married) and having sex with them while keeping it a secret from their spouse. If you think about boinging the MILF down the street and start planning how to get away with it, then yes, that is sin.

But looking at naked people doing naked things isn't. Why? Simple......you have no access to them, as well as more than likely wouldn't know them if you saw them walking down the street.

 

[AllieBaba]

Oh look, gaybiker is here to support the porn industry, AND provide us with a lesson about the history of porn!

Well if that's not a ringing endorsement, I don't know what is. Who better than Gaybiker to proclaim porn harmless?

 

[uscitizen]

On a related topic. Why will most americans run for a cop if they see a womans bare breast but allow their small children to watch someone being hacked to death with a chainsaw?

Because our society is messed up.

The violence is just as bad, if not worse.

It will be in the last days as it was in the days of Noah before the Flood.

11The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence (Gen 6:11)

I expect that last line has been true ever since Cain killed his brother. Ohh wait the apple thing...

 

[Madeline]

Oh look, gaybiker is here to support the porn industry, AND provide us with a lesson about the history of porn!

Well if that's not a ringing endorsement, I don't know what is. Who better than Gaybiker to proclaim porn harmless?

Allie, didn't you just nail me for not knowing enough about the porn industry? Now you wanna bitch because someone else does?

 

[Missourian]

1st Corinthians 6:12 through 7:10.

"Everything is permissible for me" Paul quotes a popular Corinthian slogan used to defend their sexual practices nineteen hundred years ago...

Has a familiar ring to it, doesn't it...

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
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Ecclesiastes 1:9

 

[uscitizen]

1st Corinthians 6:12 through 7:10.

"Everything is permissible for me" Paul quotes a popular Corinthian slogan used to defend their sexual practices nineteen hundred years ago...

Has a familiar ring to it, doesn't it...

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
>
Ecclesiastes 1:9

So?

It is, it was, and always will be. So whining apparently does no good?

 

[Missourian]

1st Corinthians 6:12 through 7:10.

"Everything is permissible for me" Paul quotes a popular Corinthian slogan used to defend their sexual practices nineteen hundred years ago...

Has a familiar ring to it, doesn't it...

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
>
Ecclesiastes 1:9

So?

It is, it was, and always will be. So whining apparently does no good?

What does that not apply to?

Why do you post here? I mean, what is is, and you whining about Tea Partiers or Rand Paul's election as your Senator or Glenn Beck isn't going to change the facts that Tea Partiers won or that Paul is your Senator or that Glenn Beck is one of the most watched/listened to pundits on television or radio.

So answer your own question...why do you bother whining about it?

 

[syrenn]

Who cares? if an adult purchases a porno and watches is in his or her own home its nobodies fucking business.

I agree.

The church needs to stay the hell out of peoples bedrooms.

But its ok to schools to publicly teach children in school about "safe sex"? I'm meaning, perhaps think of it the opposite way.. if you were a parent who wanted their children to stay away from sex altogether because of faith, (and wait for marriage/love) but then you have to put them through public school where they are taught about "safe sex", its kinda the same thing. (public schools, stay the hell out of my kids life!)

I'm just sayin.. ya know as a comparison? Maybe not the best comparisons, and I can see the arguments coming... but overall what we all do effects one another's lives. Especially like Allie was talking about in the porn slave trade/human trafficking. (Human Trafficking is a good movie to watch if you haven't seen it ,by the way) It's so horrible. And its reality of what happens in this world. When we think about these children or women (or men) who get kidnapped, strung out on drugs, for the "lusts" of the flesh, instead of thinking of the other persons situation (the ppl in the porn movies) and why they are where they are, it may help keep people away from porn.

Basically, loving others, as we would want to be loved. That means putting down the porn, because the chances are the people who are doing the porn are either slaved into it, or they have been very hurt, or come from troubled or abusive families, are oppressed, etc.

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Public school is not religion.


I think you have a very narrow of the pron industry and the people who work in it. I understand your view, but that his not entirely true.

 

[syrenn]

I will never understand this. Basically this is telling your partner, "you aren't attractive enough on your own. I need to look at this other woman/man in order to get in the mood." I don't know about you, but I have never met a woman who would like to be told she was insufficient.

I don't see how watching porn tells your partner she is insufficient.

If you found her attractive enough to be turned on, you wouldn't need the porn. Watching the porn with her is like telling her she isn't good enough on her own, you need another woman to join you.

I dont see it that way. Nor do i feel that way about porn.

And how do you know its not the other way around. And the women are wishing the men could carry on like the men in the pron?

 

[syrenn]

What is amazing to me is the time and devotion posters devote to this topic, while never, ever addressing the violations of human rights that go hand in hand with porn.

Porn feeds the slave trade (and yes the salve trade is alive and thriving; thanks for continuing to ignore it's existence as you ponder whether porn is a legal or religious issue, and lisp around about how "porn doesn't debase people, people debase people!"). It also promotes child sex abuse and provides a lucrative market for the vicimtization of children and adults.

I'm calling bullshit here, Allie. I dun doubt there are videos and such made of slaves, but on the whole I think porn actors are free agents.

Er..yeah.
Thank you for verifying you know nothing of the porn industry or human rights issues in one spectacular post.

You rock.

You are both wrong and both right...to a point.

 

[uscitizen]

1st Corinthians 6:12 through 7:10.

"Everything is permissible for me" Paul quotes a popular Corinthian slogan used to defend their sexual practices nineteen hundred years ago...

Has a familiar ring to it, doesn't it...

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
>
Ecclesiastes 1:9

So?

It is, it was, and always will be. So whining apparently does no good?

What does that not apply to?

Why do you post here? I mean, what is is, and you whining about Tea Partiers or Rand Paul's election as your Senator or Glenn Beck isn't going to change the facts that Tea Partiers won or that Paul is your Senator or that Glenn Beck is one of the most watched/listened to pundits on television or radio.

So answer your own question...why do you bother whining about it?

Because there is no god?

I like to complain?

What is your excuse?

 

[Marie888]

The Relationship Between Pornography and Human Trafficking

The Relationship Between Pornography and Human Trafficking - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com


"Human trafficking victims are trained to look and act a certain way while posing for photographs, performing on camera, or servicing customers in a private setting."

"No matter what the circumstances are, like a married couple trying to get inspiration or entertainment at a bachelor party, pornography hurts innocent people. Pornography makes human trafficking a supply and demand business. Viewers demand to watch sex and human traffickers supply it."


"The next time you watch a girl on girl, masturbating, soft/hardcore, or S&M porn movie, please think about how your actions (of just watching) affect the people in front of the camera. Pornography and human trafficking is an unholy alliance that enslaves, degrades, and destroys lives."



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[Lumpy 1]

This Super Bowl Sunday, church may be as jarring as a quarterback sack for some worshippers who, after settling into their pews, discover that the subject of the morning's sermon is pornography.

More than 300 churches are expected to celebrate National Porn Sunday on Feb. 6. The members will watch a video sermon featuring current and former NFL players talking about their struggles with pornography.

Religious Groups Tackle An X-Rated Secret : NPR

Is porn itself a problem? If you don't avoid people because of it, if you aren't struggling with desires for illegal acts, is it still a problem?

My liberal attitude about freedom of speech makes me want to knee-jerk answer "no". But the fact is, I have heard my women friends complain about the time their menfolk devote to porn. About the dehumanizing effect it has on some men. And God knows, there are sexual images on the web that I find disturbing.

So, since at least a few of you may hear a sermon on Sunday about porn, I'll ask:

Is porn a religious issue?

Yup..

 

[uscitizen]

It must be a religious issue since we have had nearly 1/2 dozen preachers and such arrested for child porn in the last year or so in KY.
the latest was a youth minister in Georgetown a few weeks ago.

Jimmy Swaggart, bush Gay massage religious advisor, etc.

 

[Missourian]

So?

It is, it was, and always will be. So whining apparently does no good?

What does that not apply to?

Why do you post here? I mean, what is is, and you whining about Tea Partiers or Rand Paul's election as your Senator or Glenn Beck isn't going to change the facts that Tea Partiers won or that Paul is your Senator or that Glenn Beck is one of the most watched/listened to pundits on television or radio.

So answer your own question...why do you bother whining about it?

Because there is no god?

I like to complain?

What is your excuse?

Because I have faith in God.

I am an optimist.

Hope springs eternal.